Winter tyres in warm weather?
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I still have my winter tyres on as I have not had a chance to get them swapped over yet. For some reason this morning the wheels were vibrating above 50mph so I called for my wheels balancing as I had another 450 miles to do!
The ATS guy said to me that driving in this weather (12degrees) on the motorway, will blister the winter tyres and cause permenant damage. He said this has likely already happened and thats what the wobble will be?
Is this true????
I swapped mine last Friday. The winters shouldn't be vibrating, b, just as the car improved dramatically in November when I switched to winters, it is much better to drive with the P Zero Corsas on, now that the weather has warmed up. I've forgotten how sharp it can be on teh summer tyres.
Ah ATS.
The same brain surgeons who were unable to get the 17" wheels with winter tyres onto my alfa.
Took em home and fitted them myself!
Other than that though they've got to be talking b
ks.
A winter road tyre that blisters at 12 degrees would be a cack handed formulae as we often see those sort of temperatures during our winters.. I've even seen those temps in the alps in winter
From Continentals website
"When should I fit winter tyres to my car?
It is recommended that you switch to winter tyres in the UK between October and April.
If you are reluctant to change tyres and have nowhere to store summer tyres when they are not in use, you are better off using winter tyres all year round.
Winter tyres are as quiet and comfortable as summer tyres and, thanks to sophisticated compound technology, do not wear any more quickly.
There is a slight trade off with stopping distances as a winter tyre does not stop as quickly in the dry as a summer tyre, however, on balance if it is not possible to switch tyres in the winter, experts say you are better off with winter tyres all year round. This is because the difference in stopping distances of summer tyres in winter is far greater than for winter tyres in the summer."
The same brain surgeons who were unable to get the 17" wheels with winter tyres onto my alfa.
Took em home and fitted them myself!
Other than that though they've got to be talking b
ks.A winter road tyre that blisters at 12 degrees would be a cack handed formulae as we often see those sort of temperatures during our winters.. I've even seen those temps in the alps in winter
From Continentals website
"When should I fit winter tyres to my car?
It is recommended that you switch to winter tyres in the UK between October and April.
If you are reluctant to change tyres and have nowhere to store summer tyres when they are not in use, you are better off using winter tyres all year round.
Winter tyres are as quiet and comfortable as summer tyres and, thanks to sophisticated compound technology, do not wear any more quickly.
There is a slight trade off with stopping distances as a winter tyre does not stop as quickly in the dry as a summer tyre, however, on balance if it is not possible to switch tyres in the winter, experts say you are better off with winter tyres all year round. This is because the difference in stopping distances of summer tyres in winter is far greater than for winter tyres in the summer."
What make and model of winter tyre are they? There are different levels of winter tyre, but unless they're something special they should be fine year round.
My wife's car has run Michelin Alpin's for the last 18mths and they've been absolutely fine, and they're wearing at about half the rate of the Dunlop SP2030 summer tyres that the car came with from new.
My wife's car has run Michelin Alpin's for the last 18mths and they've been absolutely fine, and they're wearing at about half the rate of the Dunlop SP2030 summer tyres that the car came with from new.
The tyres are the pirelli Sottozero.. standard AM issue for the V8V i believe? They have done about 1k miles max since i got them new from the dealership. They have been excellent in all conditions and very quiet too.
I assumed it was just the balance that was out, it could be that some the lead has dropped off but i can still see strips stuck to the wheels? Just got a bit worried when the ATS man told me that!
I have dropped a note to Pirelli customer services to see what they say. I will post the reply on here when it arrives.
I assumed it was just the balance that was out, it could be that some the lead has dropped off but i can still see strips stuck to the wheels? Just got a bit worried when the ATS man told me that!
I have dropped a note to Pirelli customer services to see what they say. I will post the reply on here when it arrives.
Here is the formal response from Pirellli..... Its pretty much what we already knew about softer compound but they didnt directly answer the question around blistering. I assume that means its probably not true!
"Winter tyres are developed in order to ensure the best performance when the temperature is below 7° C; during the summer, the composition, which is softer than summer tyres, tends to wear out much quicker, which will compromise safety and performance"
"Winter tyres are developed in order to ensure the best performance when the temperature is below 7° C; during the summer, the composition, which is softer than summer tyres, tends to wear out much quicker, which will compromise safety and performance"
They wear quicker but will definitely not blister. I also noticed a much firmer cornering when I swapped back to the Corsas from the SottoZeros last week. I also drove out of the dealers yard with a big wheel spin having forgotten how little they grip when cold. Most winter tryres come with a seed restriction (normally 180-200 kph) so in Germany you cannot max out if on winter tyres.
hornbaek said:
They wear quicker but will definitely not blister. I also noticed a much firmer cornering when I swapped back to the Corsas from the SottoZeros last week. I also drove out of the dealers yard with a big wheel spin having forgotten how little they grip when cold. Most winter tryres come with a seed restriction (normally 180-200 kph) so in Germany you cannot max out if on winter tyres.
Agreed, the Sotto's are like driving on Jelly tyres in comparison to Corsa's. The softer compound makes for more block and sidewall movement IMHO.Cockernee said:
hornbaek said:
They wear quicker but will definitely not blister. I also noticed a much firmer cornering when I swapped back to the Corsas from the SottoZeros last week. I also drove out of the dealers yard with a big wheel spin having forgotten how little they grip when cold. Most winter tryres come with a seed restriction (normally 180-200 kph) so in Germany you cannot max out if on winter tyres.
Agreed, the Sotto's are like driving on Jelly tyres in comparison to Corsa's. The softer compound makes for more block and sidewall movement IMHO.Gentlemen,
may I just add my opinion? Standard winter tyres are normally thinner (255 versus 275) and "higher" (40 versus 35) on a thinner wheel (18" versus 19"): accordingly their grip surface reduces, ecc. ecc. ecc.
Then, let my post a question in this thread (since I didn't get any reply to my topic "DB9 optional tyre size").
Summer is coming and summer tyres are necessarily to replace the winter ones.
Recently, while "surfing" on my car (DB9 Volante MY 2007) certificate of conformity, I found out that larger than the standard summer tyres (235/40 ZR 19, 275/35 ZR19) may be installed on the same wheels (F 8,5Jx19; R 9,5Jx19), i.e. "Optional wheel/tyre specification - Front: 245/40 ZR19, 8.5Jx19; Rear: 285/35 ZR19, 9.5Jx19".
Any question/comment, for exemple whether possible to change only the rear ones (since the front ones are still in good conditions!), will be appreciated. Reportedly, you may need additional grip on the rear but not necessarily in front!
Any suggestion about a manufacturer other than Bridgestone, Michelin or Pirelli (for exemple, is AM designation really essential?)
Thanks in advance
may I just add my opinion? Standard winter tyres are normally thinner (255 versus 275) and "higher" (40 versus 35) on a thinner wheel (18" versus 19"): accordingly their grip surface reduces, ecc. ecc. ecc.
Then, let my post a question in this thread (since I didn't get any reply to my topic "DB9 optional tyre size").
Summer is coming and summer tyres are necessarily to replace the winter ones.
Recently, while "surfing" on my car (DB9 Volante MY 2007) certificate of conformity, I found out that larger than the standard summer tyres (235/40 ZR 19, 275/35 ZR19) may be installed on the same wheels (F 8,5Jx19; R 9,5Jx19), i.e. "Optional wheel/tyre specification - Front: 245/40 ZR19, 8.5Jx19; Rear: 285/35 ZR19, 9.5Jx19".
Any question/comment, for exemple whether possible to change only the rear ones (since the front ones are still in good conditions!), will be appreciated. Reportedly, you may need additional grip on the rear but not necessarily in front!
Any suggestion about a manufacturer other than Bridgestone, Michelin or Pirelli (for exemple, is AM designation really essential?)
Thanks in advance
agree with all other posts, the thing to note is that whilst you are still running on winter tyres this time of the year (actually i still am) you are missing out on the opportunity to have swapped to something with much better grip and on the right car that could mean loads more fun. on a normal car i doubt you would notice the difference 95% of the time.
there are better winter tyres than others as some are what should be considered "all season" and not a scientific view but generally the better winter grade of tyre it is the worse it is when it warms up. some of the winter rally tyres are great in snow and ice but are like blocks of wood in the dry or even just wet conditions.
there are better winter tyres than others as some are what should be considered "all season" and not a scientific view but generally the better winter grade of tyre it is the worse it is when it warms up. some of the winter rally tyres are great in snow and ice but are like blocks of wood in the dry or even just wet conditions.
watchrabbit said:
Zod said:
The Sottozeros are speed rated to 240 km/h.
Nope, all AM marked winter tyres at 19" or 20" are rated to 270kmh. Bridgestone for the Rapide and Sottozeros on the rest. I've had them on my Vantage, Rapide and now Virage. Even if you don't care about the cap in top speed (driving every day on a no speed limit, usually free german highway I do) there are a lot of independent tests showing much worse performance in wet conditions (sideways traction, brake distance, etc.). At least THAT should put you off.
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