122mph.. Not me gov!
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AdamV12V said:
George, this really isn't your finest thread. You may want to reflect on your comments here before you continue digging yourself deeper...
I don't see what's wrong with them. It just bugs me when everyone has this holier-than-thou style attitude when it comes to speeding. Let's face it, we've probably all done 120+ on the public road when it was safe to do so. There really is no issue imo.Btw, I'm not defending the bloke for bragging about getting away with it on the internet, I just think the punishment is riduclous for that.
George29 said:
Btw, I'm not defending the bloke for bragging about getting away with it on the internet, I just think the punishment is riduclous for that.
What do you suggest? A sticky bun!.It's easy to say its safe etc etc, but these t
ts probably do theese antics often and the risk assessment and probable consequences to other road users must be considered on judgement day.Maybe he won't do it again.
George who determines it is safe?
In the mileage I do each year I see some stuff there is just no way you could predict. The faster you are going the more dangerous it is and the less likely you can take evasive action (especially on a bike!
) Exactly the reasons I gave up riding bikes.
Its that muppet that isn't concentrating or aware that will cause the accident, not your abilities.
One other thing I've noticed A LOT of people have no idea of how quick a sports car or bike can overtake, corner or brake. Often catching them by surprise, their over reaction (or retaliation
) can then cause an accident.
You may think you are safe at >100 mph on NSL roads, believe me you can't anticipate every eventuality, the faster you go the less time you have to react.
I'm sure you don't want to find that lot out too late
In the mileage I do each year I see some stuff there is just no way you could predict. The faster you are going the more dangerous it is and the less likely you can take evasive action (especially on a bike!
) Exactly the reasons I gave up riding bikes.Its that muppet that isn't concentrating or aware that will cause the accident, not your abilities.
One other thing I've noticed A LOT of people have no idea of how quick a sports car or bike can overtake, corner or brake. Often catching them by surprise, their over reaction (or retaliation
) can then cause an accident.You may think you are safe at >100 mph on NSL roads, believe me you can't anticipate every eventuality, the faster you go the less time you have to react.
I'm sure you don't want to find that lot out too late
In any event, he was not jailed for speeding, nor for bragging about it on the internet:
"He was sentenced to four months each for the two charges of perverting the course of justice, to run consecutively, and was given six penalty points on his licence for the speeding offence."
As has been pointed out before on this thread, it is rather similar to Chris Huhne, who was not jailed for speeding either.
This is another example of how people do not seem to appreciate the seriousness of lying about what they see as “just speeding."
"He was sentenced to four months each for the two charges of perverting the course of justice, to run consecutively, and was given six penalty points on his licence for the speeding offence."
As has been pointed out before on this thread, it is rather similar to Chris Huhne, who was not jailed for speeding either.
This is another example of how people do not seem to appreciate the seriousness of lying about what they see as “just speeding."
Ice27 said:
Speeding in appropriate circumstances is all very well until something goes wrong!
Pulling a wheelie at that speed is NOT appropriate!!
That rider WAS endangering himself AND other road users AND the poor Police Officers who may have to pick up the pieces!!!
And joe public who end up shelling out for the medical care he might need.Pulling a wheelie at that speed is NOT appropriate!!
That rider WAS endangering himself AND other road users AND the poor Police Officers who may have to pick up the pieces!!!
Ice27 said:
That rider WAS endangering himself AND other road users AND the poor Police Officers who may have to pick up the pieces!!!
Well said Mel.Some of the smallest coffins I've ever made were for bikers who got it wrong. Not a pretty sight for the recovery services nor their families
I sometimes think that we should get rid of all speed limits and when people have accidents a judge can decide if the speed was “safe to do”. They can then hand out appropriate punishment when it’s proved the speed wasn’t, i.e. life in prison or life time ban from driving or assists striped to pay compensation.
Though it wouldn’t work as in today’s society people don’t seem to be responsible for their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault!
Though it wouldn’t work as in today’s society people don’t seem to be responsible for their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault!
Type R Tom said:
I sometimes think that we should get rid of all speed limits and when people have accidents a judge can decide if the speed was “safe to do”. They can then hand out appropriate punishment when it’s proved the speed wasn’t, i.e. life in prison or life time ban from driving or assists striped to pay compensation.
Though it wouldn’t work as in today’s society people don’t seem to be responsible for their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault!
Like I said to George who decides what "safe" is and what makes them most appropriate to make that call.Though it wouldn’t work as in today’s society people don’t seem to be responsible for their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault!
I do agree on the modern lack of responsibility actions though, many don't even consider it before they act.
Edited by mikey k on Friday 10th May 13:07
Type R Tom said:
I sometimes think that we should get rid of all speed limits and when people have accidents a judge can decide if the speed was “safe to do”. They can then hand out appropriate punishment when it’s proved the speed wasn’t, i.e. life in prison or life time ban from driving or assists striped to pay compensation.
Though it wouldn’t work as in today’s society people don’t seem to be responsible for their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault!
I want some of whatever you're smoking Tom Though it wouldn’t work as in today’s society people don’t seem to be responsible for their actions, it’s always someone else’s fault!
Travelling down the M2 yesterday (and I'm sure we've all seen this happen)...
A Mercedes was sitting in the outside lane when he really should have moved over. An impatient Peugot driver decides to undertake everybody, including the Mercedes. And just as he does so the Mercedes decides to move over, obviously without checking the inside. Just at the last moment, he caught sight of the Peugot and swerved wildly and braked!! Luckily, everybody got away without an incident.
Now, with that in mind, go back and look at the wheelie video. Forget the fact that he was pulling a wheelie, his manoeuvre is unsafe. The blue car and the motorcycle on the inside look to be doing about 80mph + given the speed differential and if the blue car catches sight of the motorcycle on the inside and swerves (as above) what happens to our motorcycling genius on the outside? The blue car and resulting debris would no doubt also take out the rider on the inside too.
This guy deserved his ban. He was an idiot, oblivious to the dangers around him and not considering other road users.
A Mercedes was sitting in the outside lane when he really should have moved over. An impatient Peugot driver decides to undertake everybody, including the Mercedes. And just as he does so the Mercedes decides to move over, obviously without checking the inside. Just at the last moment, he caught sight of the Peugot and swerved wildly and braked!! Luckily, everybody got away without an incident.
Now, with that in mind, go back and look at the wheelie video. Forget the fact that he was pulling a wheelie, his manoeuvre is unsafe. The blue car and the motorcycle on the inside look to be doing about 80mph + given the speed differential and if the blue car catches sight of the motorcycle on the inside and swerves (as above) what happens to our motorcycling genius on the outside? The blue car and resulting debris would no doubt also take out the rider on the inside too.
This guy deserved his ban. He was an idiot, oblivious to the dangers around him and not considering other road users.
Ice27 said:
Travelling down the M2 yesterday (and I'm sure we've all seen this happen)...
A Mercedes was sitting in the outside lane when he really should have moved over. An impatient Peugot driver decides to undertake everybody, including the Mercedes. And just as he does so the Mercedes decides to move over, obviously without checking the inside. Just at the last moment, he caught sight of the Peugot and swerved wildly and braked!! Luckily, everybody got away without an incident.
Now, with that in mind, go back and look at the wheelie video. Forget the fact that he was pulling a wheelie, his manoeuvre is unsafe. The blue car and the motorcycle on the inside look to be doing about 80mph + given the speed differential and if the blue car catches sight of the motorcycle on the inside and swerves (as above) what happens to our motorcycling genius on the outside? The blue car and resulting debris would no doubt also take out the rider on the inside too.
This guy deserved his ban. He was an idiot, oblivious to the dangers around him and not considering other road users.
Then it would be the dA Mercedes was sitting in the outside lane when he really should have moved over. An impatient Peugot driver decides to undertake everybody, including the Mercedes. And just as he does so the Mercedes decides to move over, obviously without checking the inside. Just at the last moment, he caught sight of the Peugot and swerved wildly and braked!! Luckily, everybody got away without an incident.
Now, with that in mind, go back and look at the wheelie video. Forget the fact that he was pulling a wheelie, his manoeuvre is unsafe. The blue car and the motorcycle on the inside look to be doing about 80mph + given the speed differential and if the blue car catches sight of the motorcycle on the inside and swerves (as above) what happens to our motorcycling genius on the outside? The blue car and resulting debris would no doubt also take out the rider on the inside too.
This guy deserved his ban. He was an idiot, oblivious to the dangers around him and not considering other road users.
head who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors? Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
George29 said:
Ice27 said:
Travelling down the M2 yesterday (and I'm sure we've all seen this happen)...
A Mercedes was sitting in the outside lane when he really should have moved over. An impatient Peugot driver decides to undertake everybody, including the Mercedes. And just as he does so the Mercedes decides to move over, obviously without checking the inside. Just at the last moment, he caught sight of the Peugot and swerved wildly and braked!! Luckily, everybody got away without an incident.
Now, with that in mind, go back and look at the wheelie video. Forget the fact that he was pulling a wheelie, his manoeuvre is unsafe. The blue car and the motorcycle on the inside look to be doing about 80mph + given the speed differential and if the blue car catches sight of the motorcycle on the inside and swerves (as above) what happens to our motorcycling genius on the outside? The blue car and resulting debris would no doubt also take out the rider on the inside too.
This guy deserved his ban. He was an idiot, oblivious to the dangers around him and not considering other road users.
Then it would be the dA Mercedes was sitting in the outside lane when he really should have moved over. An impatient Peugot driver decides to undertake everybody, including the Mercedes. And just as he does so the Mercedes decides to move over, obviously without checking the inside. Just at the last moment, he caught sight of the Peugot and swerved wildly and braked!! Luckily, everybody got away without an incident.
Now, with that in mind, go back and look at the wheelie video. Forget the fact that he was pulling a wheelie, his manoeuvre is unsafe. The blue car and the motorcycle on the inside look to be doing about 80mph + given the speed differential and if the blue car catches sight of the motorcycle on the inside and swerves (as above) what happens to our motorcycling genius on the outside? The blue car and resulting debris would no doubt also take out the rider on the inside too.
This guy deserved his ban. He was an idiot, oblivious to the dangers around him and not considering other road users.
head who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors? Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
Knob29 said:
Then it would be the dhead who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors?
Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
Georgio, you wouldn't have just happened to have purchased a bike perchance??head who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors? Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
You wouldn't have happened to have had a recent run in with plod over the last year or so??
Just trying to decipher your dogmatism
George29 said:
Then it would be the dhead who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors?
Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
George, yes, in that scenario, it would've been the fault of the car driver but the result would've been the death of the bike rider who failed to read the road correctly and was impatient. His riding is clearly well below the standard expected of road users. Even without this display of poor driving/riding ability he could expect a ban. Anyone found doing 30mph above the limit is likely to receive a 12 month ban.head who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors? Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
George29 said:
Then it would be the dhead who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors?
Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
Do you drive?head who didn't check in his mirror before moving who would be to blame. Obviously. He was in the outside lane, why would anyone swerve there without checking their mirrors? Didn't deserve a ban at all imo. Maybe a fixed penalty notice, nothing more.
Yes I did notice your fleet........
Yes he should have checked, but thout should not undertake.
Edited by Vipers on Friday 10th May 17:18
Vipers said:
Yes he should have checked, but thout should not undertake.
Who undertakes who? I just watched both videos again and saw no undertaking taking place.Also, I'd question why a car is in the outside lane when the inside lane is free if he is undertaking (not condoning the undertaking, but cannot find any evidence of it).
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