Noise on V12V from cold start

Noise on V12V from cold start

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V12woollie

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4,363 posts

146 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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When starting from cold there is a faint noise like the heater being on a very slow speed but higher pitched (like a soft squeal) and when I turn the steering wheel it goes and comes back when I stop turning it. When the engine is about a quarter warmed up the noise goes and this only happens on a cold start. Totally gone when the car is warm.

The guys at Grange have replaced the drive belt as this is sometimes the cause but the noise is still there, so they are now talking to AM. The Morning Frost V12V in the showroom also makes the same noise on a cold start.

I just thought I would see if any of the V12V owners here (particularly the new ones as something may have changed in the later cars) have also noticed this noise. It may help me and Grange to understand if it is common or rare as to how to diagnose it.

Basically, if they all do it then I shall save Grange some time and effort and ignore it. Or if someone has had it and rectified it again we can save some diagnostic time.

AMDBSNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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V12woollie said:
When starting from cold there is a faint noise like the heater being on a very slow speed but higher pitched (like a soft squeal) and when I turn the steering wheel it goes and comes back when I stop turning it. When the engine is about a quarter warmed up the noise goes and this only happens on a cold start. Totally gone when the car is warm.

The guys at Grange have replaced the drive belt as this is sometimes the cause but the noise is still there, so they are now talking to AM. The Morning Frost V12V in the showroom also makes the same noise on a cold start.

I just thought I would see if any of the V12V owners here (particularly the new ones as something may have changed in the later cars) have also noticed this noise. It may help me and Grange to understand if it is common or rare as to how to diagnose it.

Basically, if they all do it then I shall save Grange some time and effort and ignore it. Or if someone has had it and rectified it again we can save some diagnostic time.
I told you before, scrap the nail rolleyes

yeti

10,523 posts

276 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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AMDBSNick said:
I told you before, scrap the nail rolleyes
^^ This

Or torch it and get a DBS with the payout yes

Hope it's gets sorted easily See-mon smile

peterr96

2,226 posts

176 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Does that mean you've got it back now? If so we can pull it apart this evening in the interests of helping!

Cockernee

3,059 posts

161 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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My old worn out track version makes no noises at all...... wink I think you need to let me run it in for you, it won't make any noises after that biggrin

mikey k

13,011 posts

217 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Cockernee said:
I think you need to let me run it in for you, you won't notice that noise after that biggrin
EFA

silverspeed

1,505 posts

231 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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V12woollie said:
When starting from cold there is a faint noise like the heater being on a very slow speed but higher pitched (like a soft squeal) and when I turn the steering wheel it goes and comes back when I stop turning it. When the engine is about a quarter warmed up the noise goes and this only happens on a cold start. Totally gone when the car is warm.

The guys at Grange have replaced the drive belt as this is sometimes the cause but the noise is still there, so they are now talking to AM. The Morning Frost V12V in the showroom also makes the same noise on a cold start.

I just thought I would see if any of the V12V owners here (particularly the new ones as something may have changed in the later cars) have also noticed this noise. It may help me and Grange to understand if it is common or rare as to how to diagnose it.

Basically, if they all do it then I shall save Grange some time and effort and ignore it. Or if someone has had it and rectified it again we can save some diagnostic time.
I have a similar noise that goes when I switch AC off. Its with the dealer being looked at as we speak. Yours sounds like power steering pump ??

V12woollie

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4,363 posts

146 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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silverspeed said:
I have a similar noise that goes when I switch AC off. Its with the dealer being looked at as we speak. Yours sounds like power steering pump ??
I thought maybe the pump but wondered why it goes when the car is warm. Odd that the other new V12V also has it. Maybe a bad batch of pumps or something else in the chain?

AdamV12V

5,039 posts

178 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Yup my current V12V does that too and only from a cold start and lasts about 10mins before it goes away. Sounds a bit like a distant kettle boiling or gurgling / whistling / squeaking.

I've enquired when the car was last in for a few niggles sorting and was told that some cars do it and others don't. Whilst they were aware of the problem they were unable to identify how to stop it. As it isn't that bad I just now ignore it, I was probably more worried it was a potential faultly part/system.

Oddly enough my first V12V didn't do it.

V12woollie

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4,363 posts

146 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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AdamV12V said:
Yup my current V12V does that too and only from a cold start and lasts about 10mins before it goes away. Sounds a bit like a distant kettle boiling or gurgling / whistling / squeaking.

I've enquired when the car was last in for a few niggles sorting and was told that some cars do it and others don't. Whilst they were aware of the problem they were unable to identify how to stop it. As it isn't that bad I just now ignore it, I was probably more worried it was a potential faultly part/system.

Oddly enough my first V12V didn't do it.
That's it! I don't like the some cars do it and some don't scenario, especially when I have one that does it frown




Cockernee

3,059 posts

161 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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mikey k said:
Cockernee said:
I think you need to let me run it in for you, you won't notice that noise after that biggrin
EFA
That as well biggrin

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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AdamV12V said:
...Sounds a bit like a distant kettle boiling or gurgling / whistling / squeaking.
I know Jonby has a coffee machine in the boot of his V12VR......you sure it's not standard issue? scratchchin

mikey k

13,011 posts

217 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Jockman said:
AdamV12V said:
...Sounds a bit like a distant kettle boiling or gurgling / whistling / squeaking.
I know Jonby has a coffee machine in the boot of his V12VR......you sure it's not standard issue? scratchchin
yes said machine in use!


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Little Donkey

1,544 posts

142 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Checked mine this evening. Done a bit of slow maneuvering, let it idle.............. Nothing. Not sure if that helps, but hope you get a resolution either way.

L.D

V12woollie

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4,363 posts

146 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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Thanks Greg. AM engineers have a sound clip of the noise so am waiting for their thoughts on the next steps.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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Power steering fluid not flowing adequately when cold/filter a bit clogged..?

I had a Volvo pump howling like a banshee. Turned out to be a duff design problem. A filter in the fluid reservoir sometimes clogs because the holes are too small. A new reservoir cured it.

Mako V12V

3,135 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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Hi Simon, I can confirm that my old Jan 2010 Mako beast doth not make said noise!
And if you're at Grange soon could one praps obtain vin of new MFW beast?!
Cheers Phil

V12woollie

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4,363 posts

146 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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Mako V12V said:
Hi Simon, I can confirm that my old Jan 2010 Mako beast doth not make said noise!
And if you're at Grange soon could one praps obtain vin of new MFW beast?!
Cheers Phil
Thanks Phil. I will try and get the VIN. It is a lot older than mine as it has been there for quite a few months.

James B

1,302 posts

245 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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I'll check my father's this evening. Not aware of that noise on previous startups however.