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At Shelsey Walsh today I was directed to park next to an F Type. At fist I thought it was an XKRS . Ironically it was white the same as my new V8S.
Whilst I don't wish to get involved in arguments here are my observations.
The F.Type is so big , wide and tall. The interior looks very poor, all hard plastic, though I am sure it is ergonomically perfect . The door handles operate in a similar way to the Astons but stick out. Shut lines were poor, the wheels looked very bling plus the paint finish was not a patch on my S.
Watching photographs being taken I would wager there were more taken of Pearl than the Jag. Having said all that I am sure that it will sell but not to me!
Whilst I don't wish to get involved in arguments here are my observations.
The F.Type is so big , wide and tall. The interior looks very poor, all hard plastic, though I am sure it is ergonomically perfect . The door handles operate in a similar way to the Astons but stick out. Shut lines were poor, the wheels looked very bling plus the paint finish was not a patch on my S.
Watching photographs being taken I would wager there were more taken of Pearl than the Jag. Having said all that I am sure that it will sell but not to me!
robgt said:
At Shelsey Walsh today I was directed to park next to an F Type. At fist I thought it was an XKRS . Ironically it was white the same as my new V8S.
Whilst I don't wish to get involved in arguments here are my observations.
The F.Type is so big , wide and tall. The interior looks very poor, all hard plastic, though I am sure it is ergonomically perfect . The door handles operate in a similar way to the Astons but stick out. Shut lines were poor, the wheels looked very bling plus the paint finish was not a patch on my S.
Watching photographs being taken I would wager there were more taken of Pearl than the Jag. Having said all that I am sure that it will sell but not to me!
Rob - when I said couldn't you find something nice to say about it I hoped you would come up with more than 'I am sure it will sell'. Still, here's the evidence anyway ....Whilst I don't wish to get involved in arguments here are my observations.
The F.Type is so big , wide and tall. The interior looks very poor, all hard plastic, though I am sure it is ergonomically perfect . The door handles operate in a similar way to the Astons but stick out. Shut lines were poor, the wheels looked very bling plus the paint finish was not a patch on my S.
Watching photographs being taken I would wager there were more taken of Pearl than the Jag. Having said all that I am sure that it will sell but not to me!
Riccardino said:
But what defines road presence?
All I know is that, even on a bicycle, when the F Type passed me I didn't notice it and it took a second look to realise it was the car I had been looking out for for a while. I guess that, for me, defines the lack of road presence - it didn't make me notice it.The F Type doesn't even come close to the Training Bra. However the TB is a million miles away from the daddy, the DBS.
As for where I came from, we'll thats tricky. I was adopted at 6 weeks old in Portsmouth. Having been to Portsmouth many times I do know its two main occupants are sailors and hookers. Answers on a postcard riccy boy
As for where I came from, we'll thats tricky. I was adopted at 6 weeks old in Portsmouth. Having been to Portsmouth many times I do know its two main occupants are sailors and hookers. Answers on a postcard riccy boy
yeti said:
What do you think rather than 'the poeple here'?
Fair pointRolls Royce Ghost is the first which comes to my mind
Morgan Aero
Bugatti Veyron
DB9
Lamborgini Aventador
Porsche Carrera GT
And you?
AMDBSNick said:
Answers on a postcard riccy boy
So you are one of the pack? 
Edited by Riccardino on Sunday 16th June 23:03
Agree with Rob when I had a test drive the paint finish is not a patch on an Aston, even though most new AM buyers get the cars detailed on arrival, the F type is only slightly wider 1” and 2” higher than a Vantage.
After 4 years of AM ownership I am debating a move to an alternative manufacturer and have test driven an F type, it went round corners at speeds that my N420 could never match probably due to the active suspension.
I could modify my current Vantage but why should I have too, looks are one thing handling is another.
After 4 years of AM ownership I am debating a move to an alternative manufacturer and have test driven an F type, it went round corners at speeds that my N420 could never match probably due to the active suspension.
I could modify my current Vantage but why should I have too, looks are one thing handling is another.
I think it important to remember in all these discussions that we are comparing a 7/8 yr old design (albeit with constant updates throughout it's life) which one assumes is to be replaced / significantly upgraded over the next yr or two with a car that is not only brand new, but also one that doesn't replace an existing car in the Jag range so was effectively a 'clean sheet'
In a couple of yrs time, when the newness factor of the F type starts to wear off and Aston have a vantage replacement/upgrade, I suspect we will all be looking at this somewhat differently. I also can't believe F type design will age as well as vantage
The other thing to bear in mind is that in a lot of the comparisons I've read, whether by journos or the public, the Jag's price advantage over Vantage is often mentioned. V6S F types are starting to appear on PH classifieds, I think more or less at list, new or with low miles, with prices of £75-80k in their optioned up state. I suspect you can buy a new Vantage S/SP10 roadster for less than 100k and you can certainly buy 2013 Vantage S roadsters with nominal miles on the clock for low 80s. TO be clear, the jag in question is not the V8 which would be a better comparison - I think it would cost far more to buy a reasonably optioned V8 F type than a new vantage S roadster at the prices available in the real world - F type V8 lists without extras at 80k
That starts to put a different light on many of the arguments IMO, especially as in say 2 yrs time, will a secondhand F type V6S with a list price before extras of 67k be worth more than a vantage roadster of the same age - I suspect not......
In a couple of yrs time, when the newness factor of the F type starts to wear off and Aston have a vantage replacement/upgrade, I suspect we will all be looking at this somewhat differently. I also can't believe F type design will age as well as vantage
The other thing to bear in mind is that in a lot of the comparisons I've read, whether by journos or the public, the Jag's price advantage over Vantage is often mentioned. V6S F types are starting to appear on PH classifieds, I think more or less at list, new or with low miles, with prices of £75-80k in their optioned up state. I suspect you can buy a new Vantage S/SP10 roadster for less than 100k and you can certainly buy 2013 Vantage S roadsters with nominal miles on the clock for low 80s. TO be clear, the jag in question is not the V8 which would be a better comparison - I think it would cost far more to buy a reasonably optioned V8 F type than a new vantage S roadster at the prices available in the real world - F type V8 lists without extras at 80k
That starts to put a different light on many of the arguments IMO, especially as in say 2 yrs time, will a secondhand F type V6S with a list price before extras of 67k be worth more than a vantage roadster of the same age - I suspect not......
George29 said:
No one has said that 
I know but still nobody is mentioning other cars. It was just courious to see what else would attract the attention of an Aston ownerGeorge29 said:
The XK-RS looks like it's been covered in glue and then ram raided Halfords.
Fully agree on this. Eventually a plain XK is certainly betterGeorge29 said:
Now an old XJR. That has presence 
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