Potenzas

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DangerMonkey

Original Poster:

587 posts

217 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Seriously. Why does anyone fit these anymore?

I've had Michelin Pilot Super Sports fitted to the rears for 4 months and near 3000 miles now (incl. 1000+ miles touring round Scotland - need to pull my finger out and write that one up) and they are seriously impressing me. I can't comment on wear rates yet, which I suspect may be their only undoing but I've been out and about in the soaking wet the last few days and the PSS propel the Vantage out of slow corners and junctions whereas before my mix of enthusiasm and old Potenzas would leave me spinning. If you do lose grip it comes back instantly and in abundance to the point I thought something was wrong at first. They have taken a little fun out of sliding round roundabouts in the wet but they grip that well. Very slightly quieter too, perhaps changing the fronts will increase the difference further. I will definitely be fitting them to the fronts as opportunity arises.

V8V for reference

that is all

DM

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

179 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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DangerMonkey said:
Seriously. Why does anyone fit these anymore?
Because we've been waiting for someone to test and report back! wink

Bravo73

1,858 posts

175 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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DangerMonkey said:
Seriously. Why does anyone fit these anymore?
Because lots of owners still get hung up about them saying 'AM' on the sidewall.



I've said it before but once the current set of Bridgestones wear out on my V8V, they are going to be replaced by Supersports.

DangerMonkey

Original Poster:

587 posts

217 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Neil1300R said:
Because we've been waiting for someone to test and report back! wink
No excuses now! smile

bogie

16,406 posts

273 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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to be fair, last time I changed some 40K mile/4 year old Potenzas and put a new set on the difference was amazing too wink

comparing old worn tyres to brand new ones is a bit of a biased test...Id be worried if the new ones didn't feel better that's for sure ! smile

DangerMonkey

Original Poster:

587 posts

217 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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fair point bogie. To add a bit more perspective and give you a base line for my observations if you like - I did 11k over 20mths on the last set. Previous owner had put them on but they certainly weren't hard and there was no cracking or anything going on so I doubt they had been on there many years.

P.s. Normally I take tyres all the way to 1.6mm (this goes back to running yokos on the lotus) but I changed the potenzas early

P.p.s. it's in the wet where the difference is really felt. I know a lot of you garage queens don't like to venture out in the rain wink

Edited by DangerMonkey on Sunday 16th June 17:20

taylor172

833 posts

205 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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I've just replaced my bridgestones with 7 years newer bridgestones... i could say exactly the same, utterly worlds apart

DangerMonkey

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587 posts

217 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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I'm not surprised! Weren't yours showing signs of cracking ?

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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I get 18 months out of a set of rear RE050's
Used them on several other cars with no problem.
They don't like cold & wet together and get a bit WAAAY HAAAAY below 3mm of tread.
I reckon I'll try the PSS's next on the front (rears are only a few months old)

bogie

16,406 posts

273 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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ive got some cracked few year old fronts on at the moment that will be changed shortly...but just putting Potenzas back on to match the rears, next time I should need all 4 at the same time and try the Michelins out

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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bogie said:
ive got some cracked few year old fronts on at the moment that will be changed shortly...but just putting Potenzas back on to match the rears, next time I should need all 4 at the same time and try the Michelins out
I've NEVER managed to get all four to wear so I can replace them at the same time on ANY car confused

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Bravo73 said:
Because lots of owners still get hung up about them saying 'AM' on the sidewall.
Do you know what this denotation means, Bravo ???

I only ask because my Dealer had no idea. smile

Bravo73

1,858 posts

175 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Jockman said:
Bravo73 said:
Because lots of owners still get hung up about them saying 'AM' on the sidewall.
Do you know what this denotation means, Bravo ???

I only ask because my Dealer had no idea. smile
Hmmm, I always presumed that it was because that particular tyre is OEM approved by Aston Martin. Is this not the case? confused

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Bravo73 said:
Hmmm, I always presumed that it was because that particular tyre is OEM approved by Aston Martin. Is this not the case? confused
You could be right, matey....I honestly don't know if it's a specific formulation or compound confused

bogie

16,406 posts

273 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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mikey k said:
bogie said:
ive got some cracked few year old fronts on at the moment that will be changed shortly...but just putting Potenzas back on to match the rears, next time I should need all 4 at the same time and try the Michelins out
I've NEVER managed to get all four to wear so I can replace them at the same time on ANY car confused
usually I compromise and if I need new on one axle and the other is down to <3mm I will put a full set on

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

179 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Jockman said:
Bravo73 said:
Hmmm, I always presumed that it was because that particular tyre is OEM approved by Aston Martin. Is this not the case? confused
You could be right, matey....I honestly don't know if it's a specific formulation or compound confused
They have a stiffer
sidewall than the non AM designated Tyre

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Neil1300R said:
They have a stiffer
sidewall than the non AM designated Tyre
It doesn't work hehe

V12woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Neil1300R said:
They have a stiffer
sidewall than the non AM designated Tyre
Really! You honestly think that Bridgestone have a separate production line for Potenzas with a stiffer sidewall just for the very low production volume of Aston Martin? I have my doubts about that. I think that all tyres have tolerances and AM just specify the acceptable tolerance for fitment to their cars, and so these are stamped with AM9 on the sidewall. At least that is what the engineer from Bridgestone told me when he came to Grange to measure the rolling radius of my tyres after TDI told me they were different (which they weren't).

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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V12woollie said:
Neil1300R said:
They have a stiffer
sidewall than the non AM designated Tyre
Really! You honestly think that Bridgestone have a separate production line for Potenzas with a stiffer sidewall just for the very low production volume of Aston Martin?


Same line different batches?
I had RE050's on my Honda's specific to them
BMW, Merc & Maserati also have specific versions
Then you have the diameter, width and depth variations

V12woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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mikey k said:
Same line different batches?
I had RE050's on my Honda's specific to them
BMW, Merc & Maserati also have specific versions
Then you have the diameter, width and depth variations
teacher I live and learn bow

So a batch on the same line can have different construction, i.e. more rigid sidewall?

If there is a construction difference specifically for AM, does that mean that the people fitting PSS are courting problems?