F-Type: Well, Now I've Seen Everything...

[DB9VolanteDriver]

Can you believe that the F-Type V6 uses the V8 block with blanking plates for the rearmost 2 cylinders, the same long crank, and shortened cylinder heads? It may save some money, is clever, but it sure isn't elegant. This alone would put me off the V6.

[montecristo]

DB9VolanteDriver said:

Can you believe that the F-Type V6 uses the V8 block with blanking plates for the rearmost 2 cylinders, the same long crank, and shortened cylinder heads? It may save some money, is clever, but it sure isn't elegant. This alone would put me off the V6.

That kind of thing would irritate me, knowing that on the surface it all looks fine, but there is deception underneath.

[Little Donkey]

DB9VolanteDriver said:

Can you believe that the F-Type V6 uses the V8 block with blanking plates for the rearmost 2 cylinders, the same long crank, and shortened cylinder heads? It may save some money, is clever, but it sure isn't elegant. This alone would put me off the V6.

That's bit of a shame actually. I wonder what else has been "value engineered"?

[Piersman2]

DB9VolanteDriver said:

Can you believe that the F-Type V6 uses the V8 block with blanking plates for the rearmost 2 cylinders, the same long crank, and shortened cylinder heads? It may save some money, is clever, but it sure isn't elegant. This alone would put me off the V6.

Actually... I don't believe it.

I'm off to google.

Hmmm... So V8 = 5l, V6 = 3L

V8= 0.625L / cylinder
V6= 0.5L / cylinder

Two 'blanked' cylinders would be 1.25 L down from 5L = 3.75L engine in V6 config.

I have got the right car haven't I, the Jaguar F-Type? In which case I'm calling bull.

Or do I need a whoosh parrot?

Edited by Piersman2 on Monday 2nd December 22:04

[Quinny]

Just buy 2 conrods, 4 valves, 2 new pistons, 2 cylinder heads, 2 injectors, a new exhaust and inlet manifold......then re flash the ECU and you've got a V8

[George29]

DB9VolanteDriver said:

Can you believe that the F-Type V6 uses the V8 block with blanking plates for the rearmost 2 cylinders, the same long crank, and shortened cylinder heads? It may save some money, is clever, but it sure isn't elegant. This alone would put me off the V6.

I saw something about this earlier today. Made me think exactly the same.

Also shows why the F type is so heavy comparatively.

[George29]

Piersman2 said:

Actually... I don't believe it.

I'm off to google.

Hmmm... So V8 = 5l, V6 = 3L

V8= 0.625L / cylinder
V6= 0.5L / cylinder

Two 'blanked' cylinders would be 1.25 L down from 5L = 3.75L engine in V6 config.

I have got the right car haven't I, the Jaguar F-Type? In which case I'm calling bull.

Or do I need a whoosh parrot?

Edited by Piersman2 on Monday 2nd December 22:04

The stroke could be different...

[DB9VolanteDriver]

Piersman2 said:

Actually... I don't believe it.

I'm off to google.

Hmmm... So V8 = 5l, V6 = 3L

V8= 0.625L / cylinder
V6= 0.5L / cylinder

Two 'blanked' cylinders would be 1.25 L down from 5L = 3.75L engine in V6 config.

I have got the right car haven't I, the Jaguar F-Type? In which case I'm calling bull.

Or do I need a whoosh parrot?

Edited by Piersman2 on Monday 2nd December 22:04

Didn't believe it either until I saw a photo of the V6 and the V8. V6 clearly uses the longer V8 block with shortened cylinder heads. And you see the blanking plates for the rearmost cylinders.

Clever, but a terrible bit of engineering for such an expensive car.

[Speedraser]

I don't think this is true. Where did this info come from? When I looked under the hood/bonnet of a V6 F-Type, there appeared to be more space behind the engine than there was in the V8.

[Speculatore]

Big discussions about it on the Jaguar forum


Plus some chap who states that there is no point making a performance car with a 'Manual' option as they are slower and less economical than the auto version. He actually says there is no market for the 'manual' option.

[Little Donkey]

First one to obtain photographic evidence wins a set of sill plates kindly donated by Tony Hall, inscribed "Tosser!"

[john ryan]

Jaguar are a low volume business. This solution avoids re-engineering the the front end of the body structure, crash testing etc. The space freed up can be used for other purposes. It's a needs must solution with short relatively low cost development timetable

[Beefmeister]

john ryan said:

Jaguar are a low volume business. This solution avoids re-engineering the the front end of the body structure, crash testing etc. The space freed up can be used for other purposes. It's a needs must solution with short relatively low cost development timetable

Hoozah! A voice of reason!

[George29]

john ryan said:

Jaguar are a low volume business.

They aren't really though. Morgan is a low volume business.

[brakedwell]

I was thinking of buying a 3.0 V6 S/C XJ or XF. Thank goodness plans A and B didn't materialise

[snuffy]

I don't think many people would regard Jaguar as a low volume company. Okay, they are not Ford or Vauxhall, but they are hardly Lotus or Noble either.

[JiggyJaggy]

Funny I have only seen 1 F-Type in Mayfair so far... not cool enough or uber exclusive??

[Neil1300R]

JiggyJaggy said:

Funny I have only seen 1 F-Type in Mayfair so far... not cool enough or uber exclusive??

Since its launch in the UK its outsold the 911! So expect to see lots more of them, even in Mayfair. Not cool enough for the Hedgies but the techies will probably be able to afford them.

[Zod]

john ryan said:

Jaguar are a low volume business. This solution avoids re-engineering the the front end of the body structure, crash testing etc. The space freed up can be used for other purposes. It's a needs must solution with short relatively low cost development timetable

What space will be freed up if it uses the same block?

[AMDBSNick]

I have a client whose tenant makes the soft tops. They have just made 50 people redundant because Jaguar have spectacularly miscalculated demand for Cab vs Coupe. On the other hand he cuts the doors for the new RRS and can't get enough staff.

Someone said to me the other day JLR stands for "Just Land Rover", no idea how true this is.