Discussion
Speculatore said:
Saw one in the flesh at Beaulieu yesterday
And a DBS
As I have said ,I've seen one in a metallic dark grey and it looked much better that this white/black that is not to my taste.And a DBS
However not had enough of a look around it to form a real opinion yet.
Going to see if they have one in Park a Lane showroom in the next couple of weeks,will report back.
I don't know if it's fair to put it up against a DBS that is a classic design,as is the DB9.
It's styling is more edgy and will divide opinion,however it will be on the modern technology and ride that the i8 may or may not appeal.
Edited by avinalarf on Tuesday 26th August 12:23
avinalarf said:
As I have said ,I've seen one in a metallic dark grey and it looked much better that this white/black that is not to my taste.
However not had enough of a look around it to form a real opinion yet.
Going to see if they have one in Park a Lane showroom in the next couple of weeks,will report back.
I don't know if it's fair to put it up against a DBS that is a classic design,as is the DB9.
It's styling is more edgy and will divide opinion,however it will be on the modern technology and ride that the i8 may or may not appeal.
Like everyone told me when I went for a test drive for a v12v: if you go drive one, be prepared to be buying one!However not had enough of a look around it to form a real opinion yet.
Going to see if they have one in Park a Lane showroom in the next couple of weeks,will report back.
I don't know if it's fair to put it up against a DBS that is a classic design,as is the DB9.
It's styling is more edgy and will divide opinion,however it will be on the modern technology and ride that the i8 may or may not appeal.
Edited by avinalarf on Tuesday 26th August 12:23
I delt with Oliver Sewell at Parklane.
When it comes to comments on the back end giving birth to a 991, it is less obvious if you go for Sophisto Grey and without the blue accents. It blends the car in an altogether more cohesive look.
I'm really interested in thoughts on the plug-in grant being applicable to such an expensive car - it's 25% up to a maximum of £5k
Now don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact that as a middle aged, middle class, middle income, English, car owning, home owning, business owning, childless, privately educated, private health insured, single man I effectively get nothing from the state but new ways to demand tax from me
But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ? To be clear, if the subsidy is there, I don't expect anyone to do anything other than take it - I would. But surely as a general rule, there should be a limit on what value car the subsidy applies to, say up to £25k or £30k cars. On a £100k car, the subsidy isn't likely to make anyone buy it and by definition, the buyers will be comfortably off - I just find it odd that taxpayers should subsidise the purchase of such an expensive car.
Did you know the Porsche 918 qualifies - so that's £5k off a £640k (base price) car !
Now don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact that as a middle aged, middle class, middle income, English, car owning, home owning, business owning, childless, privately educated, private health insured, single man I effectively get nothing from the state but new ways to demand tax from me
But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ? To be clear, if the subsidy is there, I don't expect anyone to do anything other than take it - I would. But surely as a general rule, there should be a limit on what value car the subsidy applies to, say up to £25k or £30k cars. On a £100k car, the subsidy isn't likely to make anyone buy it and by definition, the buyers will be comfortably off - I just find it odd that taxpayers should subsidise the purchase of such an expensive car.
Did you know the Porsche 918 qualifies - so that's £5k off a £640k (base price) car !
jonby said:
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But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ?
It's patently ridiculous.But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ?
As you say, if it's there for the taking then who would refuse it?
However, it needs to be binned.
Edited for speelin
Edited by whoami on Tuesday 26th August 17:56
whoami said:
jonby said:
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But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ?
It's patently ridiculous.But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ?
As you say, if it's there fore the taking then who would refuse it?
However, it needs to be binned.
mikey k said:
whoami said:
jonby said:
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But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ?
It's patently ridiculous.But it somehow doesn't seem right that the govt is subsidising to the tune of £5k a pop these £100,000 i8s. Any views on this ?
As you say, if it's there fore the taking then who would refuse it?
However, it needs to be binned.
Thinking about it futher, in the instance of a Porsche 918, UK taxpayers are subsidising the cost of a car that is only affordable by someone that either earns a substantial 6 figure salary or is quite literally a multi millionaire, with said owner then presumably paying relatively little (compared to a typical super/luxury car) in annual road tax, fuel tax (as they won't use that much) or congestion charge. Surely all those running cost savings should be sufficient tax break to the buyer, in the instance of a Porsche 918, that we don't then give him or her £5k towards the purchase price ? Plus of course I'm not sure how many buyers have any interest in the fact the 918 is green - surely that's just a bonus over and above the main selling criteria of performance, looks & handling ?
jonby said:
I'm really interested in thoughts on the plug-in grant being applicable to such an expensive car - it's 25% up to a maximum of £5k
On a £100k car, the subsidy isn't likely to make anyone buy it and by definition, the buyers will be comfortably off - I just find it odd that taxpayers should subsidise the purchase of such an expensive car.
Its a dilemma for me too Jonby.On a £100k car, the subsidy isn't likely to make anyone buy it and by definition, the buyers will be comfortably off - I just find it odd that taxpayers should subsidise the purchase of such an expensive car.
What with the several £100K the government are giving me for putting wind farms on my estate and now this.
Think I'll just have to go for the ice bucket challenge to show good faith.
I guess it is a show of good faith that they really want to promote greener and cleaner energy. And they have got to show that good faith across the board. Remember that these grants are available in most countries and sometime in a larger scale. American get $7500 iirc etc..
The highest earners are also the highest tax payers. I believe incentives can operate at all levels.
The highest earners are also the highest tax payers. I believe incentives can operate at all levels.
jonby said:
avinalarf said:
Think I'll just have to go for the ice bucket challenge to show good faith.
As long as you don't do what I suspect most of the celebs are and using it for self promotion without even donating to the charity :-)You can rest easy in your bed tonight.
Indeed at this very moment I'm emailing to you a set of my most recent accounts,for your approval.
A little off topic but not totally unrelated...
Test drove the Tesla S at the weekend - wow!
I had previously read about the power delivery and instant torque but experiencing it was a different matter.
0-60 is about 5 seconds so pretty quick but really impressive is the acceleration when on the move. Tootle along at 30/40 then put your foot down (to overtake, for example) and it takes off like a rocket!
It would leave my DB9 for dead.
Needless to say, Mrs thetees now has one on order (and I'm not going to try and race her when it arrives in November!).
I have seen the future and it's not;
(1) (Unfortunately) a 6 ltr V12 or
(2) BMW's halfway house hybrid solution
Test drove the Tesla S at the weekend - wow!
I had previously read about the power delivery and instant torque but experiencing it was a different matter.
0-60 is about 5 seconds so pretty quick but really impressive is the acceleration when on the move. Tootle along at 30/40 then put your foot down (to overtake, for example) and it takes off like a rocket!
It would leave my DB9 for dead.
Needless to say, Mrs thetees now has one on order (and I'm not going to try and race her when it arrives in November!).
I have seen the future and it's not;
(1) (Unfortunately) a 6 ltr V12 or
(2) BMW's halfway house hybrid solution
Edited by thetees on Tuesday 26th August 21:41
The Tesla S is not a bad looking car to be fair and for a DD type car fine, but for a car to enjoy at weekends or hooning you need engine noise. Wind noise, whiring and a ridiculous television in the centre console just doesn't cut it.
As for the I8, like many recent BMWs, it looks a mess, too large a rear overhang with slashes and swoops all over the place and dubious colour schemes to boot. If I was spending £100k on a new car I'd want a power source that was more than a cross between a Daihatsu Charade GTti and a zanussi.
As for the I8, like many recent BMWs, it looks a mess, too large a rear overhang with slashes and swoops all over the place and dubious colour schemes to boot. If I was spending £100k on a new car I'd want a power source that was more than a cross between a Daihatsu Charade GTti and a zanussi.
avinalarf said:
Seen the future eh...
Do me a favour then chief.
PM me next Friday's Euro Lottery numbers.
Of course I COULD do that...but others have told me that you can't be trusted to spend the money wisely Do me a favour then chief.
PM me next Friday's Euro Lottery numbers.
Consequently, I shall be keeping them all to myself and spending the loot on beer, sandwiches and EVs
Gettoff said:
The Tesla S is not a bad looking car to be fair and for a DD type car fine, but for a car to enjoy at weekends or hooning you need engine noise. Wind noise, whiring and a ridiculous television in the centre console just doesn't cut it.
As for the I8, like many recent BMWs, it looks a mess, too large a rear overhang with slashes and swoops all over the place and dubious colour schemes to boot. If I was spending £100k on a new car I'd want a power source that was more than a cross between a Daihatsu Charade GTti and a zanussi.
go drive one. You may be surprised.As for the I8, like many recent BMWs, it looks a mess, too large a rear overhang with slashes and swoops all over the place and dubious colour schemes to boot. If I was spending £100k on a new car I'd want a power source that was more than a cross between a Daihatsu Charade GTti and a zanussi.
erics said:
When it comes to comments on the back end giving birth to a 991, it is less obvious if you go for Sophisto Grey and without the blue accents. It blends the car in an altogether more cohesive look.
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