AMG Engine.

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robgt

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2,585 posts

162 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Looks like our new engines are not that far away! Have a look at the new AMG GT. 4 ltr V8 twin turbo circa 500BHP with a load more torque than the current AM V8. Plus the rumour of a 600 BHP model. Any concerns about the sound produced should not be worried . There is a video of the new GT being tested at the Nurburgring, sounds really rather good. I for one hope Gaydon are getting things sorted rather than building a continuous stream of specials.

MollyGTi

2,358 posts

154 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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V12woollie

4,363 posts

145 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Interesting smile

I do love how you and Rob communicate via PH biggrin

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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V12woollie said:
Interesting smile

I do love how you and Rob communicate via PH biggrin
Well, you have met Rob Simon, it's safer to converse electronically, less chance of the conversation taking a turn for the worse! Morning all! wavey

George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Would rather have the 6.2 V8 than a 4 litre turbo.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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George29 said:
Would rather have the 6.2 V8 than a 4 litre turbo.
Lot's of things we'd all like but turbocharging & hybrid are the only ways the industry is going right now

Neil1300r

5,487 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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robgt said:
Looks like our new engines are not that far away! Have a look at the new AMG GT. 4 ltr V8 twin turbo circa 500BHP with a load more torque than the current AM V8. Plus the rumour of a 600 BHP model. Any concerns about the sound produced should not be worried . There is a video of the new GT being tested at the Nurburgring, sounds really rather good. I for one hope Gaydon are getting things sorted rather than building a continuous stream of specials.
New Vantage not planned until 2017. Engine deal with Ford until at least 2017 IIRC

Think it will be couple of years before we see an AMG lump in a production Aston.

So it will be a continuous stream of 'specials', where even us affecionardos will struggle to spot the difference.

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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robgt said:
... sounds really rather good.

Unable to play through my surround sound system, so that might be why I missed it.

I could not hear any exhaust sound, only tyre squealing and the noise of repeatedly driving over the ridged rumble kerbing.

Is the absence of a prominent exhaust sound, due to this 'wonderful' new world of twin turbocharging?

Do they still make the hissing wastegate discharge sound (aka Sierra Cosworth), just as maximum engine revs are reached?



Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 22 April 19:12

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

176 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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robgt said:
...sounds really rather good.
Compared to what? Sounds pretty flaccid to me, rather like the new F1 sound (or more accurately, lack thereof). If that's what Vantage buyers have to look forward to, I think they'll be hanging on to their current motors for a good while longer. Of course, I've never liked the AMG 'house' sound; just a lot of bloated 'fart can' noise to me. Astons, V8 and V12, are miles ahead, sound wise.

Jon1967x

7,226 posts

124 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/amg-tobias-moer...

Don't ask why I was looking but the public view from AMG (I don't think Ive seen it posted here before)

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Neil1300r said:
New Vantage not planned until 2017. Engine deal with Ford until at least 2017 IIRC

Think it will be couple of years before we see an AMG lump in a production Aston.

So it will be a continuous stream of 'specials', where even us affecionardos will struggle to spot the difference.
Bentley have stated that by the end of this decade 90% of their production will be available as a hybrid.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufactur...

AMG have confirmed that hybrid engines will feature in their model range. No doubt interesting times are ahead and underlines the need for a partner who has access to the latest technology for AML to thrive.

AML reliance and appetite will only increase as time goes by and as we know if your dancing it's better to lead than follow*

  • Edited from the coarse version as it's the Aston forum.


Gdc

220 posts

142 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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I predict they produce a special for the next James Bond film due for release in October 2015

something easy; lets call it a Vanquish S Ultimate with some sort of tweaked V12 engine

a last hurrah for normal aspiration before we move into the forced induction, turbo hybrid, sounds like a washing machine, era

600bhp from a V12 sounds like a familar bhp number for runout models - remember the Vantage V600

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Bincenzo said:
Well, you have met Rob Simon, it's safer to converse electronically, less chance of the conversation taking a turn for the worse! Morning all! wavey
heheidea I think a virtual meet could work! type

MollyGTi

2,358 posts

154 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Here's the situation: Rob is at home, I am 5 miles away at the office. Time for a quick check up on PH before (the other) his lordship arrives in the office. Uh-oh - what's that Rob has posted? That post needs a link to make any sense. Quick search. Do what I can & post up link just as the boss walks in. One of these days I am going to get that wrong! whistle

Moral of the story - all you blokes with the loyal-mrs-sensible-secretary running the office for you - are you sure thats what she is doing? Actually she might be doing the same as you - sneaking onto PH when you think no-one is looking wink

JBaps

214 posts

125 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Jon39 said:

Unable to play through my surround sound system, so that might be why I missed it.

I could not hear any exhaust sound, only tyre squealing and the noise of repeatedly driving over the ridged rumble kerning.

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There wasn't much to miss imo, standard AMG V8 sound albeit heavily muffled. Still, even if it wasn't muffled I'm not sure why anyone would want their Aston to just sound like another Merc.

mountainreef

124 posts

148 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Friend of mine is a some quality bigwig for Ford dealing with the Aston engine production in Cologne. He went to Cologne a few weeks ago and had a briefing on the GT. His text to me said the following:

''Just out of a meeting to agree the euro base model of the GT and it's way under powered! Funny that!''

Now I'm not to sure if he meant the Aston GT or the AMG GT? He's on holiday at the moment so its I can't confirm. Either way it is driving me nuts smile

500HP seems quite acceptable in my eyes!

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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JBaps said:
There wasn't much to miss imo, standard AMG V8 sound albeit heavily muffled. Still, even if it wasn't muffled, I'm not sure why anyone would want their Aston to just sound like another Merc.

Exactly.

I might be dreaming this, but I can recall seeing a video, about a man who was commissioned to tune (musically) the exhaust sound, of a Gaydon Aston Martin whilst the car was under development.

An important and enjoyable feature for many of us.



stevewak

497 posts

130 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Jon39 said:

Exactly.

I might be dreaming this, but I can recall seeing a video, about a man who was commissioned to tune (musically) the exhaust sound, of a Gaydon Aston Martin whilst the car was under development.

An important and enjoyable feature for many of us.
I think that was the McLaren MP4 12C documentary

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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stevewak said:
I think that was the McLaren MP4 12C documentary


Thank you.


KarlFranz

2,008 posts

270 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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stevewak said:
I think that was the McLaren MP4 12C documentary
Which, ironically, is widely regarded as a not-very-good-sounding car.