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waremark

3,241 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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KarlFranz said:
stevewak said:
I think that was the McLaren MP4 12C documentary
Which, ironically, is a not-very-good-sounding car.
Edited for accuracy. At least by comparison with ours.

quench

498 posts

145 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
Compared to what? Sounds pretty flaccid to me, rather like the new F1 sound (or more accurately, lack thereof). If that's what Vantage buyers have to look forward to, I think they'll be hanging on to their current motors for a good while longer. Of course, I've never liked the AMG 'house' sound; just a lot of bloated 'fart can' noise to me. Astons, V8 and V12, are miles ahead, sound wise.
^^ This.

Yawn. Stereotypical, muffled turbo effect. Astons should be NA or supercharged IMO.

mikey k

13,011 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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quench said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Compared to what? Sounds pretty flaccid to me, rather like the new F1 sound (or more accurately, lack thereof). If that's what Vantage buyers have to look forward to, I think they'll be hanging on to their current motors for a good while longer. Of course, I've never liked the AMG 'house' sound; just a lot of bloated 'fart can' noise to me. Astons, V8 and V12, are miles ahead, sound wise.
^^ This.

Yawn. Stereotypical, muffled turbo effect. Astons should be NA or supercharged IMO.
yes

Jon39

12,782 posts

142 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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mountainreef said:
Friend of mine is a some quality bigwig for Ford dealing with the Aston engine production in Cologne. He went to Cologne a few weeks ago and had a briefing on the GT. His text to me said the following:

''Just out of a meeting to agree the euro base model of the GT and it's way under powered! Funny that!''

Now I'm not to sure if he meant the Aston GT or the AMG GT? He's on holiday at the moment so its I can't confirm. Either way it is driving me nuts smile

500HP seems quite acceptable in my eyes!


Given his connection, there would not appear to be any Ford link to the AMG GT.

I do not expect your friend should be revealing 'meeting snippets', but anyway, we are all very keen for more 'gossip'.


Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 24th April 09:33

jonby

5,357 posts

156 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Jon39 said:
mountainreef said:
Friend of mine is a some quality bigwig for Ford dealing with the Aston engine production in Cologne. He went to Cologne a few weeks ago and had a briefing on the GT. His text to me said the following:

''Just out of a meeting to agree the euro base model of the GT and it's way under powered! Funny that!''

Now I'm not to sure if he meant the Aston GT or the AMG GT? He's on holiday at the moment so its I can't confirm. Either way it is driving me nuts smile

500HP seems quite acceptable in my eyes!


Given his connection, there would not appear to be any Ford link to the AMG GT.

I do not expect your friend should be revealing 'meeting snippets', but anyway, we are all very keen for more 'gossip'.


Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 24th April 09:33
As you say, the Merc/AMG GT has nothing to do with Ford

Replacement Vantage on a whole 'new' platform is approx. 18 mths - 2 yrs away. I doubt they would call the car that isn't the GT within the range, 'GT'. I suppose they might be referring therefore to DB9 replacement, also c. 2 yrs away, which possibly will have a variation of the existing V12 rather than the new AMG engine

SFO

5,162 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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jonby said:
Replacement Vantage on a whole 'new' platform is approx. 18 mths - 2 yrs away.
I doubt that there is a "whole new platform" on the way for any Aston .. Aston simply does not have the funds to do this. Aston needs access to a sugar daddy cupboard of tricks and toys, and quickly. Mercedes has a superb cupboard -- but what access does Aston really have?

Vanquish and Rapide are improved versions of the existing VH architecture .. you can see that the dash, instrument binnacle, waterfall center console and doors are essentially from previous cars.

mikey k

13,011 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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SFO said:
jonby said:
Replacement Vantage on a whole 'new' platform is approx. 18 mths - 2 yrs away.
I doubt that there is a "whole new platform" on the way for any Aston .. Aston simply does not have the funds to do this. Aston needs access to a sugar daddy cupboard of tricks and toys, and quickly. Mercedes has a superb cupboard -- but what access does Aston really have?

Vanquish and Rapide are improved versions of the existing VH architecture .. you can see that the dash, instrument binnacle, waterfall center console and doors are essentially from previous cars.
I'm sure Jon understands that wink
After all it was the premise of VH

jonby

5,357 posts

156 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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mikey k said:
SFO said:
jonby said:
Replacement Vantage on a whole 'new' platform is approx. 18 mths - 2 yrs away.
I doubt that there is a "whole new platform" on the way for any Aston .. Aston simply does not have the funds to do this. Aston needs access to a sugar daddy cupboard of tricks and toys, and quickly. Mercedes has a superb cupboard -- but what access does Aston really have?

Vanquish and Rapide are improved versions of the existing VH architecture .. you can see that the dash, instrument binnacle, waterfall center console and doors are essentially from previous cars.
I'm sure Jon understands that wink
After all it was the premise of VH
exactly, hence the quote marks

Although in VH & Aston terms, from some conversations this weekend, it would appear Vantage will be as 'new' as Aston gets with Gaydon cars, not just in engine terms, but many others too. So think in terms of at least as big a leap as Vanquish II was to DBS but in some ways far more of a leap.