DB9 no service history

[Deano84]

Jon1967x said:

Is the 140 point check more than a main dealer would do as part of a service (accepting the service would also change consumables like oil, filters etc)? I suspect a service checks less and would miss a number of things until they cause a failure. An MOT would also find various failing items but not all until they'd actually failed. The service history gives some peace of mind to the internals you can't see but probably not a lot more that a thorough inspection can't reveal. For instance who cares if the pads were worn down and scored the discs if both have now now been replaced whereas running on 4 year old oil is causing hidden wear.

Like others have suggested, I'd be looking for a plausible reason why there's no history.

Apparently the history is with a London dealer, which they are trying to track down... its a Footballers car, owned since 2009 and they have lost it.

The car is available for circa £28,000.

[Deano84]

keegs111 said:

I purchased a 2006 db9, 30k with full history and full Aston 12 month warranty. I had the dealer agree in writing that I would have the car examined by an independent specialist after purchase and that they would cover the cost of all required repairs. When I picked up the car it drove beautifully. I had It for a wek and almost didn't bother taking it for its engineers assessment as it was so nice to drive. Imagine my surprise when the engineer found £11k worth or work which was required to bring the car back up to scratch. Deal tried to buy car back from me but I decided to hold them to their promise rather than sell car back. after a few letters they paid for the work to be done. Remember, this was a car with lower mileage and full aston history. Just because it drives nicely, doesn't mean there isn't a lot of work needed to put it back into the condition you should try and keep these cars in.

Edited by keegs111 on Tuesday 23 September 17:09

Wow, that is absolutely frightening

[V8V Pete]

Deano84 said:

its a Footballers car, owned since 2009.

Call me prejudiced but that would put me off. 50K miles of being revved to the redline from cold start, no thanks. Also makes me think of that Top Gear episode when they analysed all the "substances" found on the seats etc. of a few secondhand cars

[AMDBSNick]

Deano84 said:

Apparently the history is with a London dealer, which they are trying to track down... its a Footballers car, owned since 2009 and they have lost it.

The car is available for circa £28,000.

If its been serviced at a main dealers it will be on a central database

[Neil1300r]

AMDBSNick said:

Deano84 said:

Apparently the history is with a London dealer, which they are trying to track down... its a Footballers car, owned since 2009 and they have lost it.

The car is available for circa £28,000.

If its been serviced at a main dealers it will be on a central database

Exactly. Doesn't need tracking down. Alarm bells should now be ringing

[michael gould]

Paracetamol said:

I recently bought a no history Ferrari 550 at 50pc of its retail price.. I will use the savings to completely overhaul it to my standards. Its actually very sound, and the leakdown shows it to be in great shape. I would rather do this than to buy a 'full dealer history' car at a premium and ending up needing to spend even more on it..no dealer will really prep a car fully whatever they claim and if they do then you just end up paying for all the prep anyway because they generally aim to recoup the cost..

That sounds like a deal to good to be true ......Whilst I agree at 50% discount is a great deal, no matter how much you spend on it, and how perfect it is, it ultimately still doesn't have a history when you come to sell it. That will be both reflected in the price you will get for it and the the price you paid.

[emicen]

So a no history, 50k, 09 plate is worth roughly the same as a historied, nearly 100k, 05 plate [one of the ones nestling under £30k has a new engine as well].

Any updates on what the £11k of work needed on the DB9 that drove lovely was?

[nw28840]

emicen said:

So a no history, 50k, 09 plate is worth roughly the same as a historied, nearly 100k, 05 plate [one of the ones nestling under £30k has a new engine as well].

OP said it was a 2007 car owned by a footballer since 2009. Any ideas which player ? Could twitter this footballer and ask if he had many issues with the car, where he bought it from and where it was serviced during his ownership.

I nearly bought a 2006 DB9 Volante in November 2013. it had done +- 50,000 miles had full service history (some independent), couple of small issues - scratch on rear panel and two tyres due shortly. It was a private sale, car was sold for £30k, that after the seller had agreed a deal with me the day before for £29.5k but then went ahead and sold it the following day. That was after he text me in the evening having agreed the deal and said not to bother with the depsoit i had offered to transfer over that day.

I reckon there's more discount to be had on the car the OP is talking about.

[Deano84]

nw28840 said:

OP said it was a 2007 car owned by a footballer since 2009. Any ideas which player ? Could twitter this footballer and ask if he had many issues with the car, where he bought it from and where it was serviced during his ownership.

I nearly bought a 2006 DB9 Volante in November 2013. it had done +- 50,000 miles had full service history (some independent), couple of small issues - scratch on rear panel and two tyres due shortly. It was a private sale, car was sold for £30k, that after the seller had agreed a deal with me the day before for £29.5k but then went ahead and sold it the following day. That was after he text me in the evening having agreed the deal and said not to bother with the depsoit i had offered to transfer over that day.

I reckon there's more discount to be had on the car the OP is talking about.

I think I remember your car being advertised, was it a Black and owned by a doctor? That's an amazing price.

I emailed the seller when the advert was listed, regarding the missing history etc but it's no longer for sale and the advert has been withdrawn.

[downr]

michael gould said:

Paracetamol said:

I recently bought a no history Ferrari 550 at 50pc of its retail price.. I will use the savings to completely overhaul it to my standards. Its actually very sound, and the leakdown shows it to be in great shape. I would rather do this than to buy a 'full dealer history' car at a premium and ending up needing to spend even more on it..no dealer will really prep a car fully whatever they claim and if they do then you just end up paying for all the prep anyway because they generally aim to recoup the cost..

That sounds like a deal to good to be true ......Whilst I agree at 50% discount is a great deal, no matter how much you spend on it, and how perfect it is, it ultimately still doesn't have a history when you come to sell it. That will be both reflected in the price you will get for it and the the price you paid.

I hear where you're coming from Michael, but surely in part it depends on how long Paracetamol plans on keeping the car? Selling it in the next year or two would be a problem. But if he keeps it for 10 years and builds up a proper history with all the major items (belts etc) changed then the lack of an early history becomes a bit less of an issue.

This is quite a normal situation on classic Astons - many owners just didn't realise the importance of keeping a history file with servicing documents until the cars began to become valuable. So gaps from the pre-90s are common

As an aside my tip would be to keep everything, even now (especially things like tax discs). Albeit I draw the line at petrol receipts (but i know of some who dont!)

[nw28840]

Deano84 said:

nw28840 said:

OP said it was a 2007 car owned by a footballer since 2009. Any ideas which player ? Could twitter this footballer and ask if he had many issues with the car, where he bought it from and where it was serviced during his ownership.

I nearly bought a 2006 DB9 Volante in November 2013. it had done +- 50,000 miles had full service history (some independent), couple of small issues - scratch on rear panel and two tyres due shortly. It was a private sale, car was sold for £30k, that after the seller had agreed a deal with me the day before for £29.5k but then went ahead and sold it the following day. That was after he text me in the evening having agreed the deal and said not to bother with the depsoit i had offered to transfer over that day.

I reckon there's more discount to be had on the car the OP is talking about.

I think I remember your car being advertised, was it a Black and owned by a doctor? That's an amazing price.

I emailed the seller when the advert was listed, regarding the missing history etc but it's no longer for sale and the advert has been withdrawn.

Yep that was the car. Not my car though, he sold to another buyer on the Sunday despite agreeing a deal with me on the Saturday. I even offered to leave a deposit as I couldn't collect / pay for the car until the Monday....but he wouldn't have it, said there was no need and text me later on the Saturday evening to say he would see me Monday. Monday I tried to call / email & text him - but got no reply and the alarm bells started to ring. Eventually got through early evening, he said someone else had been to see the car yesterday and agreed a deal of £30k. I was quite disappointed with him, he then said it wasn't like that, it wasn't sold.....??? I just think he knew he'd acted badly. I wished him luck with his next purchase ( he was after a Ferrari I think next ) and just said goodbye.
One thing that had bothered me with the deal was that the pistonheads ad photos of the interior were actually of a later car, no idea why he chose to do that although the 'ski slope' was that wooden look and not to my taste and the car actually had the early seats not the later version as in the photos.
But I viewed & drove the car, checked the paperwork and it was a decent deal.......just a shame the seller wasn't good to his word.

So I kept the Vantage Roadster.....