Carbon Ceramic brake life
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AstonTony said:
Mike
Are you able to give me costs for steel as per my post?
This is a concern not just for me but for many others i would have thought?
couldn't advise or would install that direction, will likely screw dscAre you able to give me costs for steel as per my post?
This is a concern not just for me but for many others i would have thought?
would need discs, pads and calipers so actually is not that much less than new ccm
J12KJR said:
So then not my place to provide a link that the originator of these documents doesn't want to do themselves, respect for other peoples privacy etc.
But quoting from the service bulletin SB-06-0353.
If the transfer layer on CCM discs is not fully formed the disc can be damaged by water from washing the vehicle, rain or standing water. DO NOT WASH THE VEHICLE BEFORE THE TRANSFER LAYER IS MADE.
The document details stopping from 60mph but recommends that where legally permitted the bedding in procedure is done at higher speeds and a higher braking force is used than recommended.
So the water damage one backs up BM and for better results go quicker would also seem to concur with him.
0353, as mentioned above, requires only stopping from 60 mph, as I mentioned previously. The procedure can be done from higher speeds to reduce the number of times it takes to bed in pads and/or create a transfer layer on new CCM discs. So, if you want to start at 100 mph, that's fine, but only from 60 mph is required. But quoting from the service bulletin SB-06-0353.
If the transfer layer on CCM discs is not fully formed the disc can be damaged by water from washing the vehicle, rain or standing water. DO NOT WASH THE VEHICLE BEFORE THE TRANSFER LAYER IS MADE.
The document details stopping from 60mph but recommends that where legally permitted the bedding in procedure is done at higher speeds and a higher braking force is used than recommended.
So the water damage one backs up BM and for better results go quicker would also seem to concur with him.
I'm sure the reason AM now only sells pre-conditioned discs is to avoid the possibility of AM dealers messing up this procedure, especially in England where it rains all the time...
Frankly, installing new discs and conditioning them isn't rocket science. It just takes the will to adhere to the procedure. Keep in mind that other Brembo CCM-equipped cars (like Corvette, for example) sell discs and pads separately.
DB9VolanteDriver said:
J12KJR said:
So then not my place to provide a link that the originator of these documents doesn't want to do themselves, respect for other peoples privacy etc.
But quoting from the service bulletin SB-06-0353.
If the transfer layer on CCM discs is not fully formed the disc can be damaged by water from washing the vehicle, rain or standing water. DO NOT WASH THE VEHICLE BEFORE THE TRANSFER LAYER IS MADE.
The document details stopping from 60mph but recommends that where legally permitted the bedding in procedure is done at higher speeds and a higher braking force is used than recommended.
So the water damage one backs up BM and for better results go quicker would also seem to concur with him.
0353, as mentioned above, requires only stopping from 60 mph, as I mentioned previously. The procedure can be done from higher speeds to reduce the number of times it takes to bed in pads and/or create a transfer layer on new CCM discs. So, if you want to start at 100 mph, that's fine, but only from 60 mph is required. But quoting from the service bulletin SB-06-0353.
If the transfer layer on CCM discs is not fully formed the disc can be damaged by water from washing the vehicle, rain or standing water. DO NOT WASH THE VEHICLE BEFORE THE TRANSFER LAYER IS MADE.
The document details stopping from 60mph but recommends that where legally permitted the bedding in procedure is done at higher speeds and a higher braking force is used than recommended.
So the water damage one backs up BM and for better results go quicker would also seem to concur with him.
I'm sure the reason AM now only sells pre-conditioned discs is to avoid the possibility of AM dealers messing up this procedure, especially in England where it rains all the time...
Frankly, installing new discs and conditioning them isn't rocket science. It just takes the will to adhere to the procedure. Keep in mind that other Brembo CCM-equipped cars (like Corvette, for example) sell discs and pads separately.
DB9VolanteDriver said:
0353, as mentioned above, requires only stopping from 60 mph, as I mentioned previously. The procedure can be done from higher speeds to reduce the number of times it takes to bed in pads and/or create a transfer layer on new CCM discs. So, if you want to start at 100 mph, that's fine, but only from 60 mph is required.
I'm sure the reason AM now only sells pre-conditioned discs is to avoid the possibility of AM dealers messing up this procedure, especially in England where it rains all the time...
Frankly, installing new discs and conditioning them isn't rocket science. It just takes the will to adhere to the procedure. Keep in mind that other Brembo CCM-equipped cars (like Corvette, for example) sell discs and pads separately.
Probably would restrict the bedding in of CCMs to the only 2 days of good weather we get each year LOL.I'm sure the reason AM now only sells pre-conditioned discs is to avoid the possibility of AM dealers messing up this procedure, especially in England where it rains all the time...
Frankly, installing new discs and conditioning them isn't rocket science. It just takes the will to adhere to the procedure. Keep in mind that other Brembo CCM-equipped cars (like Corvette, for example) sell discs and pads separately.
Perhaps that is why they recommend quicker is better, you can get more sets bedded in on each of those days that way.
tonyhall38 said:
my discs are original...thought i had 2 pad changes up to 50k miles...turns out only one change....and that was to change from standard pads to the new compound anti squeal pads...which i might add are still not very good....thats another story....
car being picked up today...should have report by Tuesday lunchtime....
Good to hear they last at least 50k miles then. Pad wear good as well.car being picked up today...should have report by Tuesday lunchtime....
BamfordMike said:
AstonTony said:
Mike
Are you able to give me costs for steel as per my post?
This is a concern not just for me but for many others i would have thought?
couldn't advise or would install that direction, will likely screw dscAre you able to give me costs for steel as per my post?
This is a concern not just for me but for many others i would have thought?
would need discs, pads and calipers so actually is not that much less than new ccm
well then.....
all is well...discs are all good , slight discoloration caused by recent track day....normal colour will return with continued light use....ie not tracked...
pads a little worn but no need to change as yet...good for another 10k ...
so all is well , just need to get de cat done....switch fitted....and paint work sorted....
happy days...
all is well...discs are all good , slight discoloration caused by recent track day....normal colour will return with continued light use....ie not tracked...
pads a little worn but no need to change as yet...good for another 10k ...
so all is well , just need to get de cat done....switch fitted....and paint work sorted....
happy days...
tonyhall38 said:
well then.....
all is well...discs are all good , slight discoloration caused by recent track day....normal colour will return with continued light use....ie not tracked...
pads a little worn but no need to change as yet...good for another 10k ...
so all is well , just need to get de cat done....switch fitted....and paint work sorted....
happy days...
Who is doing the de-cat?all is well...discs are all good , slight discoloration caused by recent track day....normal colour will return with continued light use....ie not tracked...
pads a little worn but no need to change as yet...good for another 10k ...
so all is well , just need to get de cat done....switch fitted....and paint work sorted....
happy days...
tonyhall38 said:
well then.....
all is well...discs are all good , slight discoloration caused by recent track day....normal colour will return with continued light use....ie not tracked...
pads a little worn but no need to change as yet...good for another 10k ...
so all is well , just need to get de cat done....switch fitted....and paint work sorted....
happy days...
Just as expected.all is well...discs are all good , slight discoloration caused by recent track day....normal colour will return with continued light use....ie not tracked...
pads a little worn but no need to change as yet...good for another 10k ...
so all is well , just need to get de cat done....switch fitted....and paint work sorted....
happy days...
DB9VolanteDriver said:
silverspeed said:
Apologies if I've missed this but can I assume that my car purchased new through a main dealer will have had the bedding in procedure performed prior to my collection . Car manufactured October 2012.
It will have been done by the factory.
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