Worth the risk?

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236 posts

150 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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damaged car. Not for me. I like the spec though.

oldnbold

1,280 posts

146 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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You want to spend £71k on an insurance write off?

RichB

51,572 posts

284 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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oldnbold said:
You want to spend £71k on an insurance write off?
Indeed, especially when you can get a "proper" DBS for a similar amount. biggrin


oldnbold

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Monday 20th October 2014
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RichB said:
oldnbold said:
You want to spend £71k on an insurance write off?
Indeed, especially when you can get a "proper" DBS for a similar amount. biggrin

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1973ja

141 posts

145 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Lots of car for the money. Whatever you pay now though expect it to kick you on resale. Personally not for me

Byteme

450 posts

142 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Worth considering but only if the seller includes driving it to an authorised repairer, preferably Works Service, and is willing to pay for a complete test and report to show the car is up to standard. If they advertise at £71k they will have room for negotiation so use that to get them to prove their problem car is not going to become your albatross.

What have they possibly got to lose if you tell them for this small task you'll meet the full asking price you indicate you're happy with. In fact I would insist on Works Service because they could do a full mechanical/140 point check/MOT at the same time. It they sign everything off then you probably have little to worry about.

As the seller appears to be a salvage yard/dismantler they could have access to other similar cars, could conceivably have enough parts to put together a decent car economically and could have used a specialist repairer who could have repaired it properly.

That's a lot of what "could" have happened.

My experience, for what it's worth, is that once any significant vehicle leaves the dealer/dedicated independent specialist repairer environment, those working on them only have the standard and experience of what they usually work with and are surrounded by. They may even genuinely believe they have repaired the car properly but the reality is often very different.

RichB

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284 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Byteme said:
...I would insist on Works Service <clip> If they sign everything off...
biglaugh You're having a laugh aren't you? WS will always find something that needs doing, they'll judge the size of your wallet and add a few noughts to their estimate hehe

BravoV8V

1,858 posts

174 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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RichB said:
biglaugh You're having a laugh aren't you?
FYI, Rich, but he doesn't have a clue. He has never owned an Aston Martin, he has never worked on one and I doubt he has even been to AMW. He's a Walt. Or a troll. Take your pick.

Byteme

450 posts

142 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Baaaa

BravoV8V

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Monday 20th October 2014
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Byteme said:
Baaaa
BravoV8V said:
Or a troll.
Just on cue...

Byteme

450 posts

142 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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BravoV8V said:
Byteme said:
Baaaa
BravoV8V said:
Or a troll.
Just on cue...
You stuffed up the thread while giving no useful input whatsoever.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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VIC check to get a V5 means it is CAT C IIRC
So significant damage With repair costs in excess of the value of the car
Thats had some damage then!

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Risk is a matter of perception, financial clout and timeframe. Something that's a risk for me is probably pocket change for Bill Gates.

Anyway, the issue with the repair or otherwise of VH platform cars is that it's a bonded and riveted aluminium tub. So if the tub is bent, you're unlikely to be able to unbend it. If the tub needs repair then AML won't sell a tub - they take the car back to Gaydon, dismantle to several piles of parts, start with a new tub and remanufacture.
A few years back I looked into this for a project car/toy. The tub was £18,000 for the part and labour for strip down and rebuild was about £20,000.

Prices may have changed, but it would be sound advice to pay for someone who understands the VH tub to have a look. Not a 140 point part fitter but a proper engineer.

michael gould

5,691 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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no......... its not worth the risk

Byteme

450 posts

142 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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JohnG1 said:
Risk is a matter of perception, financial clout and timeframe. Something that's a risk for me is probably pocket change for Bill Gates.

Anyway, the issue with the repair or otherwise of VH platform cars is that it's a bonded and riveted aluminium tub. So if the tub is bent, you're unlikely to be able to unbend it. If the tub needs repair then AML won't sell a tub - they take the car back to Gaydon, dismantle to several piles of parts, start with a new tub and remanufacture.
A few years back I looked into this for a project car/toy. The tub was £18,000 for the part and labour for strip down and rebuild was about £20,000.

Prices may have changed, but it would be sound advice to pay for someone who understands the VH tub to have a look. Not a 140 point part fitter but a proper engineer.
I mentioned Works Service as it's the nearest thing you'll find to a one stop shop. I mentioned the 140 point check, and MOT, only because if it were there it would be senseless not to have them done at the same time.

In any case as soon as any of this is mentioned the seller will almost certainly refuse to fund this at which point you'd walk away.