Silverstone Intl circuit, exclusive Track Day for your Aston

Silverstone Intl circuit, exclusive Track Day for your Aston

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BravoV8V

1,858 posts

174 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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W1111AM said:
Tony, I am only insured on the track with other Astons with Locktons Insurance. I guess my insurers trying to cover their exposure to risk.
I am fine if you open it up to others, no problem. I will need to opt out.
I am also insured with Lockton and I'm not sure if that is the case, William. Here is the relevant section from the Policy summary:

"The Name of Insured, as shown on the Certificate of Motor Insurance, may use a covered vehicle on a race track or circuit in Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the islands of Guernsey, Jersey and Alderney, provided that there is no involvement in racing, pacemaking, or being in any contest, speed trial, or any rigorous reliability testing on your vehicle.
In the event of a claim under the Comprehensive Vehicle Cover section of your Policy, arising from that use, we will deduct 10% of the last declared value for your vehicle from the amount that we will pay.
If your vehicle is considered to be a total loss (write-off), arising from that use, and you wish to retain the salvage, the 10% deduction will not apply, but we will deduct 30% of the market value of the vehicle (market value immediately prior to an incident resulting in the write-off of your vehicle) from the amount that we pay you for the claim.
These amounts are on top of any other amount that you may have to pay under this insurance."

No mention of AMs only on track.

peterr96

2,226 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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George29 said:
AMDBSNick said:
White Burghandy drink
How do you have white burgundy?! Surely a contradiction?
Georgio

Leave the pro-drinking to the big boys smile
I guess you've never heard of Montrachet, Chablis, Meursault?

Cockernee

3,059 posts

160 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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L0TT0 said:
Bob....thoughts on opening it up to the guys who we know that are currently Astonless but would be good people to have along in other makes of car and respect the ethos of the day. (excluding the S3 Essex boy of course wavey)



George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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peterr96 said:
George29 said:
AMDBSNick said:
White Burghandy drink
How do you have white burgundy?! Surely a contradiction?
Georgio

Leave the pro-drinking to the big boys smile
I guess you've never heard of Montrachet, Chablis, Meursault?
I've heard of them. My point was:

White:


Burgundy:


Now how do you have a wine that combines a red and a white wine? Is that like a rosé?

BravoV8V

1,858 posts

174 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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George29 said:
I've heard of them. My point was:

white:
burgundy:

Now how do you have a wine that combines a red and a white wine? Is that like a rosé?
You're looking at colours (small b).

Burgundy (large B) is a place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundy

montecristo

1,043 posts

177 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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sukh_m said:
W1111AM said:
Tony, I am only insured on the track with other Astons with Locktons Insurance. I guess my insurers trying to cover their exposure to risk.
I am fine if you open it up to others, no problem. I will need to opt out.
I'm with lockton's and have the track day cover, I did not realise this confused
I too am with Locktons and have track insurance; it says nothing about Astons only, so that condition may not apply to everyone.

W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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BravoV8V said:
W1111AM said:
Tony, I am only insured on the track with other Astons with Locktons Insurance. I guess my insurers trying to cover their exposure to risk.
I am fine if you open it up to others, no problem. I will need to opt out.
I am also insured with Lockton and I'm not sure if that is the case, William. Here is the relevant section from the Policy summary:

"The Name of Insured, as shown on the Certificate of Motor Insurance, may use a covered vehicle on a race track or circuit in Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the islands of Guernsey, Jersey and Alderney, provided that there is no involvement in racing, pacemaking, or being in any contest, speed trial, or any rigorous reliability testing on your vehicle.
In the event of a claim under the Comprehensive Vehicle Cover section of your Policy, arising from that use, we will deduct 10% of the last declared value for your vehicle from the amount that we will pay.
If your vehicle is considered to be a total loss (write-off), arising from that use, and you wish to retain the salvage, the 10% deduction will not apply, but we will deduct 30% of the market value of the vehicle (market value immediately prior to an incident resulting in the write-off of your vehicle) from the amount that we pay you for the claim.
These amounts are on top of any other amount that you may have to pay under this insurance."

No mention of AMs only on track.
This is really interesting. I am at work and don't have my policy in front of me. My insurance at Locktons utilizes the AMOC discount with Chubb Insurance, are you with the AMOC discount? I will check my policy statement, where is this written? Thanks

L0TT0

2,465 posts

152 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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I am also insured with Locktons. Here is the relevant section from the Policy summary but note mine refers to insured and an ARDS instructor

" The following Contract Modifications apply to Your Policy, and override the basic Policy

"The Name of Insured, as shown on the Certificate of Motor Insurance and or a qualified ARDS instructor, may use a covered vehicle on a race track or circuit in Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the islands of Guernsey, Jersey and Alderney, provided that there is no involvement in racing, pacemaking, or being in any contest, speed trial, or any rigorous reliability testing on your vehicle.
In the event of a claim under the Comprehensive Vehicle Cover section of your Policy, arising from that use, we will deduct 10% of the last declared value for your vehicle from the amount that we will pay.
If your vehicle is considered to be a total loss (write-off), arising from that use, and you wish to retain the salvage, the 10% deduction will not apply, but we will deduct 30% of the market value of the vehicle (market value immediately prior to an incident resulting in the write-off of your vehicle) from the amount that we pay you for the claim.
These amounts are on top of any other amount that you may have to pay under this insurance."

Page 2 under "Contract Modifications"

W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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L0TT0 said:
I am also insured with Locktons. Here is the relevant section from the Policy summary but note mine refers to insured and an ARDS instructor

" The following Contract Modifications apply to Your Policy, and override the basic Policy

"The Name of Insured, as shown on the Certificate of Motor Insurance and or a qualified ARDS instructor, may use a covered vehicle on a race track or circuit in Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the islands of Guernsey, Jersey and Alderney, provided that there is no involvement in racing, pacemaking, or being in any contest, speed trial, or any rigorous reliability testing on your vehicle.
In the event of a claim under the Comprehensive Vehicle Cover section of your Policy, arising from that use, we will deduct 10% of the last declared value for your vehicle from the amount that we will pay.
If your vehicle is considered to be a total loss (write-off), arising from that use, and you wish to retain the salvage, the 10% deduction will not apply, but we will deduct 30% of the market value of the vehicle (market value immediately prior to an incident resulting in the write-off of your vehicle) from the amount that we pay you for the claim.
These amounts are on top of any other amount that you may have to pay under this insurance."

Page 2 under "Contract Modifications"
OK, so I feel stupid. I had email communication from Locktons to say that I am insured for Track Days with AMOC and any AM Track Days.
I have just emailed Locktons and asked for further clarity and they have quoted me the following from my policy which means I AM able to do open pit-lane track days smile

Quote:
Yes, you are insured to use your Aston Martin on a track day within the UK. The track day wording is as follows:

The Name of Insured, as shown on the Certificate of Motor Insurance and or a qualified ARDS instructor, may use a covered vehicle on a race track or circuit in Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the islands of Guernsey, Jersey and Alderney, provided that there is no involvement in racing, pacemaking, or being in any contest, speed trial, or any rigorous reliability testing on your vehicle.
In the event of a claim under the Comprehensive Vehicle Cover section of your Policy, arising from that use, we will deduct 10% of the vehicle value shown on your schedule from the amount that we will pay.
If your vehicle is considered to be a total loss, arising from that use, and you wish to retain the salvage, the 10% deduction will not apply, but we will deduct 30% of the market value of the vehicle (market value immediately prior to an incident resulting in the total loss of your vehicle) from the amount that we pay you for the claim.
These amounts are on top of any other amount that you may have to pay under this insurance.
Vehicle Third Party Liability Cover
Amount of cover provided under this section whilst driving under the Track use extension is limited to £2,000,000.

I’m hoping the above wording clarifies your below queries?

No, you do not need to notify us before you attend an event. The excess, as stated, is 10% of the vehicle value shown on your schedule. Correct, you can take you vehicle on any UK track day, provided that there is no involvement in racing, pacemaking, or being in any contest, speed trial, or any rigorous reliability testing on your vehicle.



Tony, thanks for sharing your policy wording - we have the same wording, but BravoV8V your wording is different, why is that, we're all at Locktons?




BravoV8V

1,858 posts

174 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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W1111AM said:
... but BravoV8V your wording is different, why is that, we're all at Locktons?
I copied it directly from my Policy summary. I am due to renew my policy in the next few weeks so maybe my Policy wording will be updated.

W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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BravoV8V said:
W1111AM said:
... but BravoV8V your wording is different, why is that, we're all at Locktons?
I copied it directly from my Policy summary. I am due to renew my policy in the next few weeks so maybe my Policy wording will be updated.
OK, be interesting to see thanks smile

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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BravoV8V said:
You're looking at colours (small b).

Burgundy (large B) is a place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundy
Agreed. It's that attention to detail with George.

For example, if you tell George it's an oxymoron he's fine with that.

If you tell George it's an oxy, moron he's also fine with that as he doesn't realise he has been insulted.

Thank God his job doesn't require much attention to detail smile

roughrider

975 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Does that mean you have to be accompanied by an ARDS instructor whilst driving on circuit, to have cover?

RichB

51,567 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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When I was a lad I used to work for Millets the clothing company. My family knew them well ( so no insulting remarks please) Anyway the MD's chauffeur was nice bloke but couldn't string a sentence together with a few "f's" and blimeys... Peter Millet went with Frank the chauffer to order a new Daimler and when they got back we asked what it was like.

"Eff'in lovely," said Frank. So was asked what colour it was. "Dark eff'in red," said Frank.

"What? A sort of wine colour we asked?"

"No," said Frank (and I'll always remember this) "It's better than eff'in wine, it's called burgundy!" laugh

George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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BravoV8V said:
You're looking at colours (small b).

Burgundy (large B) is a place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundy
I see. Makes sense. Thanks!

AMDBSNick

6,995 posts

162 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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George29 said:
How do you have white burgundy?! Surely a contradiction?
George you are clearly a peasant. As far as the D&D is concerned I will of course assist you from Euston you bell end biggrin

AMDBSNick

6,995 posts

162 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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roughrider said:
Does that mean you have to be accompanied by an ARDS instructor whilst driving on circuit, to have cover?
As I'm relatively sober and everyone else is on the beach I will have a stab at an explanation. When we insure helicopters cover applies to named pilots plus "any" qualified instructors. My guess is that Locktons view any owner taking instruction from an ARDS instructor as a good thing so "throw in" the cover.

Is this classified as work?

Now, where has the wine gone drink

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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AMDBSNick said:
George you are clearly a peasant. As far as the D&D is concerned I will of course assist you from Euston you bell end biggrin
Says the man who continually sleeps past his home station..... wink

AMDBSNick

6,995 posts

162 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Jockman said:
AMDBSNick said:
George you are clearly a peasant. As far as the D&D is concerned I will of course assist you from Euston you bell end biggrin
Says the man who continually sleeps past his home station..... wink
Twice and I always get home. George struggled to get out of Soho Sq last time yes

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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[quote=BravoV8V][quote=W1111AM]... why is that, we're all at Locktons?

Why ? Surely you all should be with AMDBSNick ?