V8 4.7 or V8S 4.7?

[bentley01]

BravoV8V said:

They aren't (as you're well aware!) He will need the manifolds as well to get any noticable gains (other than noise).

Cats combined with the airbox change release 20 horses.

[Barnezy]

bentley01 said:

BravoV8V said:

They aren't (as you're well aware!) He will need the manifolds as well to get any noticable gains (other than noise).

Cats combined with the airbox change release 20 horses.

I've had it confirmed by a reliable company that Cats and Airbox will add 20BHP and additional low end torque. The manifolds will add an additional 20BHP on top. All the S has over the standard car is the air box, nothing else in the engine is any different.

[Barnezy]

More research shows Cats add 12bhp and the Airbox 10bhp, so 22bhp for c£2k..... even better!

[BravoV8V]

Barnezy said:

...and the Airbox 10bhp

When you say 'Airbox', do you mean the AM Power Upgrade kit?

That usually goes for >£2k alone: http://www.astonmartinparts.net/Parts/V8-Vantage-2...

[mikey k]

Barnezy said:

bentley01 said:

BravoV8V said:

They aren't (as you're well aware!) He will need the manifolds as well to get any noticable gains (other than noise).

Cats combined with the airbox change release 20 horses.

I've had it confirmed by a reliable company that Cats and Airbox will add 20BHP and additional low end torque. The manifolds will add an additional 20BHP on top. All the S has over the standard car is the air box, nothing else in the engine is any different.

Its not the air box on the S that makes the difference its the gearing and reduced power loses through the ASM2 box

[mikey k]

BravoV8V said:

Barnezy said:

...and the Airbox 10bhp

When you say 'Airbox', do you mean the AM Power Upgrade kit?

That usually goes for >£2k alone: http://www.astonmartinparts.net/Parts/V8-Vantage-2...

I think he means the air filter boxes first fitted to the N400

[Barnezy]

mikey k said:

BravoV8V said:

Barnezy said:

...and the Airbox 10bhp

When you say 'Airbox', do you mean the AM Power Upgrade kit?

That usually goes for >£2k alone: http://www.astonmartinparts.net/Parts/V8-Vantage-2...

I think he means the air filter boxes first fitted to the N400

That's right, the power pack is for the 4.3l engine. The Airbox upgrade is the N400 airbox that's used on the S to give it 10bhp more then the standard car. It's just the box that holds the air filter and allows greater airflow in, and the cats allow greater airflow out.

I guess the ASM II advantages are only relevant if you don't want a manual.

Edited by Barnezy on Saturday 22 November 22:49

[BravoV8V]

mikey k said:

I think he means the air filter boxes first fitted to the N400

...which are part of the 'Power Pack':

[Barnezy]

BravoV8V said:

mikey k said:

I think he means the air filter boxes first fitted to the N400

...which are part of the 'Power Pack':

That's right, but only the valved airboxes are needed for the 4.7l, and they're not quite £2k.

Here is a link to the part found standard in the 4.7l - http://www.astonmartincarparts.com/part/astonmarti...

Here is a link to the part found standard in the 4.7l S (why it has 10bhp more)- http://www.astonmartincarparts.com/part/astonmarti...

[BravoV8V]

Barnezy said:

That's right, but only the valved airboxes are needed for the 4.7l, and they're not quite £2k.

Here is a link to the part found standard in the 4.7l S (why it has 10bhp more)- http://www.astonmartincarparts.com/part/astonmarti...

$567 each. So, probably £500 each (plus VAT) so £1200 for the pair. (Plus £2k for your 200 cell cats). So nearer to £3k for your 20bhp.

20bhp is arguably still not that noticeable. I imagine that you will soon be pining for the BR manifolds. (At a guess, that's probably another 20-30bhp). Now, you would notice 50 extra horses.

[Barnezy]

BravoV8V said:

Barnezy said:

That's right, but only the valved airboxes are needed for the 4.7l, and they're not quite £2k.

Here is a link to the part found standard in the 4.7l S (why it has 10bhp more)- http://www.astonmartincarparts.com/part/astonmarti...

$567 each. So, probably £500 each (plus VAT) so £1200 for the pair. (Plus £2k for your 200 cell cats). So nearer to £3k for your 20bhp.

20bhp is arguably still not that noticeable. I imagine that you will soon be pining for the BR manifolds. (At a guess, that's probably another 20-30bhp). Now, you would notice 50 extra horses.

I'm glad you're not my Forex trader!

Trust me BravoV8V, there is a supplier out there who everyone knows on here, who will do a stage 1 performance package, which includes airboxes and 200 cell cats amongst other things, for around £2k. I'm not making this up. Reviews from other people who have had this done, is that the difference is VERY noticeable. I will let you know in December

The original point was that you can save a lot of money by buying a standard 4.7l car and having the upgrades, rather then paying the £10-15k premium of the S, if you want a manual car.

[BravoV8V]

Barnezy said:

Trust me BravoV8V, there is a supplier out there who everyone knows on here, who will do a stage 1 performance package, which includes airboxes and 200 cell cats amongst other things, for around £2k. I'm not making this up. Reviews from other people who have had this done, is that the difference is VERY noticeable. I will let you know in December

Ah, rightio. So your original "I'm getting 200cell cats and a sport switch put in for £2k in December" wasn't the full story.

Barnezy said:

The original point was that you can save a lot of money by buying a standard 4.7l car and having the upgrades, rather then paying the £10-15k premium of the S, if you want a manual car.

You could save even more if you buy an early 4.3 for £30k and then get the full manifold/cats/clutch/suspension treatment done.


PS I am one of those 'other people' that you refer to. You'll love the car even more when you get it back in January. But you'll still hanker after the manifolds.

[Barnezy]

BravoV8V said:

You could save even more if you buy an early 4.3 for £30k and then get the full manifold/cats/clutch/suspension treatment done.


PS I am one of those 'other people' that you refer to. You'll love the car even more when you get it back in January. But you'll still hanker after the manifolds.

I'm sure I will

[nw28840]

Can anyone tell me whether this is a V8 or a V8S roadster. I supstect a V8 as it's a March 2011 car.

http://www.hwmastonmartin.co.uk/sales/v8-roadster-...


However the pistonheads ad says it's a Vantage S, so possibly a press car ? :

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...


Not ready to talk to HWM yet about the car yet - still deciding on the colour and whether to change.

[hashluck]

It IS an S (early one) and WAS a Press Car (there is a thread on here somewhere about it)

[AMDBSNick]

hashluck said:

It IS an S (early one) and WAS a Press Car (there is a thread on here somewhere about it)

Not so much a thread but (I think) MikeyK mentioned it was up at Tom Hartleys

[mikey k]

Worse still it was a launch that all journos thrashed round Ascari, hence why it has hung around with a few dealers
First Customer S's landed Sept 2011, mine is one of them.

[nw28840]

Thanks, I knew i'd seen one that colour before - didn't realise it was the same car Tom Hartleys' was advertising for quite a while.