Vulcan?

[mikey k]

hashluck said:

and for lovers of the iconic grille...


"Reichman says the front-end design provides big clues to the future of Aston’s sports cars, doing away with a traditional grille. “This will be a huge influence for our future sports cars,” he said. “The face of the cars in particular, although we have time to develop that.

“We will take on board a much more athletic appearance for future sports cars than now. There will be more shock and surprise, more form following function with more aero and technical influence.”

He's changed his tune
At the V8VS launch I attended he talked about how crucial retaining the iconic shape was to brand recognition and status.

He keeps changing direction, I'm not sure he actually knows what the "Aston Martin design language" is

Edited by mikey k on Thursday 26th February 20:35

[hashluck]

mikey k said:

He's changed his tune
At the V8VS launch I attended he talked about how crucial retaining the iconic shape was to brand recognition and status.

He keeps changing direction, I'm not sure he actually knows what the "Aston Martin design language" is

Edited by mikey k on Thursday 26th February 20:35

Funny enough after posting this I realised that the Vulcan does have a grille (well more a mouth) in the iconic shape, it is just somewhat in the shadows under the bonnet line.

[DB9VolanteDriver]

hashluck said:

mikey k said:

He's changed his tune
At the V8VS launch I attended he talked about how crucial retaining the iconic shape was to brand recognition and status.

He keeps changing direction, I'm not sure he actually knows what the "Aston Martin design language" is

Edited by mikey k on Thursday 26th February 20:35

Funny enough after posting this I realised that the Vulcan does have a grille (well more a mouth) in the iconic shape, it is just somewhat in the shadows under the bonnet line.

Yes, and unlike the DB10, it at least makes an attempt to have the very small headlamps in the grille indentation (stupid DB10 face...)

[JohnG1]

Jon39 said:

I agree and to make things worse, new cars are being announced now with very similar designs.

A Bentley sports car concept was in a magazine today (it will be at Geneva), and the body outline is Vantage.

The AMG GT goes further. They proudly announced that their new car has an alloy extrusions and castings monocoque chassis, a front mid-mounted engine, with a torque tube and rear gearbox. I think we have seen their body shape somewhere before as well.

Have you ever noticed the vast majority of motoring "journalists" are so lazy they refer to the V12 engine and V/H platform as venerable?

[Jon1967x]

For those who have not seen it in Autocar, it looks to me much better in different lighting and colour scheme

[Vanin]

The badge on the bonnet is all that remains.

[ds2000]

Jon1967x said:

For those who have not seen it in Autocar, it looks to me much better in different lighting and colour scheme

Want!

[motordave]

The problem is that blasted crease around the nose!!

[AdamV12V]

motordave said:

The problem is that blasted crease around the nose!!

Don't worry about that - the first bit of uneven tarmac you pass over will soon remove that problem for you!

[Jon39]

JohnG1 said:

Have you ever noticed the vast majority of motoring "journalists" are so lazy,
they refer to the V12 engine and V/H platform as venerable?

Yes, and it makes me cross too.

After reading such journalistic nonsense, you will probably turn the page, only to see praise being heaped upon
Volkswagen, for their 'revolutionary' MQB platform.

So 'exciting' is this 'new' method of chassis construction, that VW cannot hardly stop talking about it. For example;

'Beginning in 2012, Volkswagen Group has marketed the strategy under the code name MQB, which stands for
Modularer Querbaukasten, translating from German to "Modular Transversal Toolkit" or "Modular Transverse Matrix".
MQB is one strategy within VW's overall MB (Modularer Baukasten or modular matrix) program which also includes
the similar MLB strategy for vehicles with longitudinal engine orientation.

While a model may be said to use an MQB platform, it is not so much a platform per se, but rather a system
for introducing rationality across disparate platforms that share engine orientation — regardless of model,
vehicle size or brand.
Thus MQB uses a core "matrix" of components across a wide variety of platforms.
Ulrich Hackenberg, chief of Volkswagen’s Research and Development
(Head of Audi Development since Summer 2013), called MB a "strategic weapon."

Enough of that waffle.

As we know, Aston Martin announced their adaptable, bonded and riveted aluminium platform, in January 2003.

So, what's new Volkswagen?

Edited by Jon39 on Monday 2nd March 18:24

[KarlFranz]

And Lotus had it before Aston Martin (sans rivets).

(Conceived in 1994 for the Elise)

Edited by KarlFranz on Monday 2nd March 18:18

[RichB]

Vanin said:

The badge on the bonnet is all that remains.

Of what

[mjk1]

RichB said:

Of what

I guess he means of the Aston Martin design style that we all know and love ......... And I tend to agree with him.

Aston Martin have lost the plot. Just look at the Vulcan, DB10, CC100 and Lagonda. A pity they didn't pursue the DBC Concept, that was a good looking car.

[George29]

mjk1 said:

I guess he means of the Aston Martin design style that we all know and love ......... And I tend to agree with him.

Aston Martin have lost the plot. Just look at the Vulcan, DB10, CC100 and Lagonda. A pity they didn't pursue the DBC Concept, that was a good looking car.

I thought the reason they didn't pursue it because it was just a rendering made by someone non affiliated with Aston.

[RichB]

mjk1 said:

Aston Martin have lost the plot. Just look at the Vulcan, DB10, CC100 and Lagonda.

I like the Vulcan, the new Lagonda is a stunning piece of design, the DB10 is simply a film prop so can be ignored and finally, yes I agree the CC100 isn't a looker.

Edited by RichB on Tuesday 3rd March 08:48

[mjk1]

George29 said:

I thought the reason they didn't pursue it because it was just a rendering made by someone non affiliated with Aston.

Just done a search, he's from Azerbaijan. Perhaps AM should make him an offer, he has a talent that seems to be lacking at Gaydon at the moment.

[Neil1300r]

mjk1 said:

George29 said:

I thought the reason they didn't pursue it because it was just a rendering made by someone non affiliated with Aston.

Just done a search, he's from Azerbaijan. Perhaps AM should make him an offer, he has a talent that seems to be lacking at Gaydon at the moment.

Really? I think it looks generic supercar stuff. Apart fro mthe grill, nothin g says Aston to me

Cars these days are designed around the chassis, engine, gearbox, safety cell / stuff, passenger accomodation. Only then do they get to design the body.

As an example - you can see from the picture no cooling for the engine, not that he's even considered the engine. So much missing / wrong with it.

[George29]

Neil1300r said:

Really? I think it looks generic supercar stuff. Apart fro mthe grill, nothin g says Aston to me

Cars these days are designed around the chassis, engine, gearbox, safety cell / stuff, passenger accomodation. Only then do they get to design the body.

As an example - you can see from the picture no cooling for the engine, not that he's even considered the engine. So much missing / wrong with it.

I agree.

Anyone can come up with a rendering. Actually making it work, and meet regulations to sell it, is completely different.

[michael gould]

mjk1 said:

RichB said:

Of what

I guess he means of the Aston Martin design style that we all know and love ......... And I tend to agree with him.

Aston Martin have lost the plot. Just look at the Vulcan, DB10, CC100 and Lagonda. A pity they didn't pursue the DBC Concept, that was a good looking car.

nice looking car but looks mid-engined

[IanV12VR]

Just received this picture from a friend who is at Geneva



In the background you can just see the concept DBX on Jonby's thread.