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wokkadriver said:
I think you will be disappointed...
I remain hopeful...but as others have pointed out, it's difficult to see how they could do much else with their limited resources. The engine surely has to be a variant of the one-77 unless there's a surprise Merc introduction there. The side exhausts point to a front engined car (unless they are further back than seems?)
The video hints at a whale tail that makes the old 911 whale tail look like a sardine tail!
Just over a week to go.
SELON said:
I remain hopeful...but as others have pointed out, it's difficult to see how they could do much else with their limited resources. The engine surely has to be a variant of the one-77 unless there's a surprise Merc introduction there. The side exhausts point to a front engined car (unless they are further back than seems?)
The video hints at a whale tail that makes the old 911 whale tail look like a sardine tail!
Just over a week to go.
wokkadriver said:
I have it from a reliable source that it will be a track-variant 1-77, akin to the Ferrari FXX or whatever it was. If memory serves they are only doing 23, which means it should have probably been the 1-100...
Or maybe it was at risk of being the 1-54....The FXX isn't road legal...will this be?
25 February 2015, Gaydon: Introducing the Aston Martin Vulcan – a track-only supercar and the British luxury brand’s most intense and exhilarating creation to date.
Born out of extensive motorsport experience – and using the brand’s acknowledged flair for design and engineering ingenuity – the 800-plus bhp, all-carbon fibre Aston Martin Vulcan promises truly extreme performance.
Uniquely for Aston Martin the new supercar – limited to just 24 examples worldwide – will allow owners the opportunity to precisely tailor their track day experience through a graduating scale of detailed power and dynamic performance adjustments.
CEO, Dr Andy Palmer, said: “Aston Martin Vulcan is, by its very nature, a rare and thrilling supercar. Designed and engineered to deliver a genuinely bespoke driving experience that draws on our rich heritage, this car tailors its power and handling to both the capabilities of the driver and the characteristics of the track.
“A sports car for true sports car lovers, I believe the Aston Martin Vulcan – and the unique ownership programme that sits behind it – sets a whole new standard in the ultra-high luxury supercar class.”
Motorsport-inspired
Styled entirely in-house by the Aston Martin design team led by Chief Creative Officer Marek Reichman, and with a design language hinting at the next generation of Aston Martin sports cars, this supercar is powered by the most potent iteration yet of the company’s naturally-aspirated, 7.0-litre V12 petrol engine.
With its 800-plus bhp powerplant developed in conjunction with Aston Martin Racing, this front mid-engined, rear-wheel drive sports car draws extensively on the brand’s rich GT motorsport experience.
Utilising the techniques of world-class motorsport engineering, the supercar sees its power-to-weight ratio exceed those of the GTE cars which compete in the FIA’s annual World Endurance Championship.
Comprising cutting edge engineering including that sourced from the brand’s successful GT racing campaign, the car features a carbon fibre monocoque and body constructed by Aston Martin’s long-term specialist body engineering and manufacturing partner Multimatic, integral limited-slip differential, magnesium torque tube with carbon fibre propeller shaft and Brembo racing calipers acting on carbon ceramic racing disc brakes which measure 380mm in diameter at the front and 360mm at the rear.
Drive is channelled to the 345/30 x19 rear wheels and Michelin race specification tyres through a race-bred rear mid-mounted Xtrac six-speed sequential shift gearbox.
Track-derived pushrod suspension with anti-dive geometry is complemented by Multimatic’s Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve (DSSV) adjustable dampers and anti-roll bars front and rear, driver-adjustable anti-lock braking, and variable traction control.
The new track car will comply with all relevant FIA race safety requirements.
Aston Martin’s Director of Special Projects and Motorsport, David King, said: “Taking the extensive learning from our various successful racing programmes and applying it to this exceptional track car for customers has been an exciting and sometimes challenging task for the team here at Gaydon.
“Our deep and broad motorsport experience, allied to our renowned road car expertise, has allowed us to make the Aston Martin Vulcan the absolutely compelling proposition it is today.”
Fast-track training
Prior to taking delivery of their cars, owners will be offered the opportunity to take part in an extensive and detailed programme of intensive track driver training.
Experienced racers including Aston Martin Racing’s Le Mans-winning Darren Turner will support owners on their learning journey, offering them the chance to refine their track driving technique and increase their ability through a carefully-constructed series of practical and theoretical driver training events.
Using a number of exciting high performance Aston Martins including the V12 Vantage S and One-77 road cars and the Vantage GT4 race car, customers will gradually build experience and develop their track technique, before beginning their thrilling personal journeys into the immense performance potential of their Aston Martin Vulcan.
David King said: “We will be running a series of exclusive track day events commencing in 2016 that will offer the opportunity for these customers to explore their driving capabilities, and the car’s performance potential, on some of the world’s most famous and glamorous race circuits.”
There will also be the option of time in the virtual race car world of Darren Turner’s Base Performance Simulators, where buyers will have ample opportunity to further refine their driving style in the safety of the digital race track.
No longer the exclusive preserve of Formula 1, it is widely acknowledged that using a simulator can help prepare a driver for any race; improving technique and consistency as well as, ultimately, lap times.
Almost infinitely flexible in terms of colour and trim options, the exclusive new sports car will be offered to buyers through Aston Martin’s VIP sales programme, using the expertise and luxury customer service that is now a hallmark of the brand’s ‘Q by Aston Martin’ bespoke personalisation service.
Dr Palmer added: “We have already received strong interest from the customers we have spoken to about Aston Martin Vulcan.
“The cars will blend our traditional Aston Martin values of Power, Beauty and Soul with an unrivalled ownership experience; a unique combination that will guarantee their place in the brand’s rich and charismatic history.”
Performance data, together with further technical details about the ultra-exclusive track-only supercar, will be released closer to its track debut later this year.
Edited by AMD87 on Wednesday 25th February 00:08
I actually love the look of this thing
I think it's a partial mistake for the journos to keep comparing this to FXX K & P1 GTR. I understand why they are doing it - similar production numbers, track only, a more extreme version of a road legal hypercar, driver training/support, similar price, etc
But there is also a huge difference - to me, in relative terms, the Vulcan is more of a product, whereas the other 2 are more of an experience. If I understand correctly (and I'm no expert on this subject), the FXX programme works on the basis that you never take the car home, you drive it at half a dozen or so specific trackdays with full support, presumably pay a very large sum for car transport/storage/maintenance/support/etc and after say 3 years when the programme ends, you can take it home if you wish and then use it on trackdays
Also the other two are track versions of the latest high tech super/hyper cars, whereas Vulcan is based on relatively old school analogue tech - I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it is a different thing
Also piecing together the info on car/autocar/evo, you can take Vulcan home (they even have a spare set of body panels, one for track and one for 'showing' the car), you can take it to any trackday (with or without Aston's technical support), even enter it in some races and like CC100, go for single type approval to drive it on the road (in some countries)
That explains more firstly why Vulcan is more design led than the other two (the interior is far more bespoke customer car than racer compared to the other 2, with jewellery like switchgear, etc) and partly how they can sell at a similar price, a car that will probably be pulverised on track by P1 GTR & LaF FXX K
I suspect without the complexity of the 2 'rivals', it will again only in relative terms, be far easier/cheaper to maintain & support than the other 2.
This is therefore actually more of a rival to Lambo's Sesto Elemento & Pagani's Zonda R than the Mac & F products.
I think it's a partial mistake for the journos to keep comparing this to FXX K & P1 GTR. I understand why they are doing it - similar production numbers, track only, a more extreme version of a road legal hypercar, driver training/support, similar price, etc
But there is also a huge difference - to me, in relative terms, the Vulcan is more of a product, whereas the other 2 are more of an experience. If I understand correctly (and I'm no expert on this subject), the FXX programme works on the basis that you never take the car home, you drive it at half a dozen or so specific trackdays with full support, presumably pay a very large sum for car transport/storage/maintenance/support/etc and after say 3 years when the programme ends, you can take it home if you wish and then use it on trackdays
Also the other two are track versions of the latest high tech super/hyper cars, whereas Vulcan is based on relatively old school analogue tech - I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it is a different thing
Also piecing together the info on car/autocar/evo, you can take Vulcan home (they even have a spare set of body panels, one for track and one for 'showing' the car), you can take it to any trackday (with or without Aston's technical support), even enter it in some races and like CC100, go for single type approval to drive it on the road (in some countries)
That explains more firstly why Vulcan is more design led than the other two (the interior is far more bespoke customer car than racer compared to the other 2, with jewellery like switchgear, etc) and partly how they can sell at a similar price, a car that will probably be pulverised on track by P1 GTR & LaF FXX K
I suspect without the complexity of the 2 'rivals', it will again only in relative terms, be far easier/cheaper to maintain & support than the other 2.
This is therefore actually more of a rival to Lambo's Sesto Elemento & Pagani's Zonda R than the Mac & F products.
What's the saying.. Should have gone to spec savers
And where's the design signature running through this, the db10 and the GT3? I think skinny head lights and a bloody big wing seems to be it.
Sorry but fails as an item and fails on brand execution in my books. Its not a market I've ever aspired to but I just don't get it as a concept either. Just stick people in a proper race car.
Talking point though, I'll give them that.
And where's the design signature running through this, the db10 and the GT3? I think skinny head lights and a bloody big wing seems to be it.
Sorry but fails as an item and fails on brand execution in my books. Its not a market I've ever aspired to but I just don't get it as a concept either. Just stick people in a proper race car.
Talking point though, I'll give them that.
Edited by Jon1967x on Wednesday 25th February 08:38
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