New China V12S.
Discussion
paddy328 said:
I think the world needs more people to spec cars like this. I have a real thing for China grey at the min. I bet it sounds like a beast too.
You talked me out of China Grey lol. I do like it though. Quite right too for me as it turns out, I assume the finish is similar to the Flugplatz Blue V12S I test drove the other day which would be an absolute bugger under my regime. Need some flake in the paint me. Phil , as you know its hardly a quiet car but having heard the GT12 in the factory and then that nice Mr Stanton at Works suggesting he could make it louder I decided yes. Having heard others on here decatted I knew it would be verging on awesome but I think its probably exceeded that - I can see that on a long drive you might turn the switch off but other than that it should be encouraged - Mrs A's daily is a V8 Cayenne with special sports exhausts ( think Nascar sound ) but even she admitted the noise was " mental ".
Hash ,I take your point - it took an age to decide on colour and Lightening and Tungsten were close but ultimately its a car to be driven each day and I didnt want to fixate too much on cleaning !
Having a solid colour Porsche GT3 gave me extra confidence - the Ceramic Grey on my SP10 showed every mark anyway but granted for the first day after cleaning looked amazing.
Hash ,I take your point - it took an age to decide on colour and Lightening and Tungsten were close but ultimately its a car to be driven each day and I didnt want to fixate too much on cleaning !
Having a solid colour Porsche GT3 gave me extra confidence - the Ceramic Grey on my SP10 showed every mark anyway but granted for the first day after cleaning looked amazing.
Well it seems we had exactly the same shortlist - China, Tungsten, Lightning.....
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
You have the advantage in the V12S over the V8VS of being able to pick out a colour for the seat and door flash, really like what you did there
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
You have the advantage in the V12S over the V8VS of being able to pick out a colour for the seat and door flash, really like what you did there
Pete , I was told no issue whatsoever which is why i got it done from new there as opposed to going the Indi route -which obviously would have been cheaper. Bear in mind they only took the secondary cats off and replaced them with QS straight through pipes as opposed to a different exhaust.
Frankie got his DBS done the other day there as well.
Frankie got his DBS done the other day there as well.
alscar said:
Phil , as you know its hardly a quiet car but having heard the GT12 in the factory and then that nice Mr Stanton at Works suggesting he could make it louder I decided yes. Having heard others on here decatted I knew it would be verging on awesome but I think its probably exceeded that - I can see that on a long drive you might turn the switch off but other than that it should be encouraged - Mrs A's daily is a V8 Cayenne with special sports exhausts ( think Nascar sound ) but even she admitted the noise was " mental ".
Hash ,I take your point - it took an age to decide on colour and Lightening and Tungsten were close but ultimately its a car to be driven each day and I didnt want to fixate too much on cleaning !
Having a solid colour Porsche GT3 gave me extra confidence - the Ceramic Grey on my SP10 showed every mark anyway but granted for the first day after cleaning looked amazing.
Thanks! Would be great to have a listen to them. I'm still based in Bermuda but do get to the UK a fair amount. Where abouts are you based? Would be good to meet up at some stage, plus Hash and anyone else who fancied a blast. Hash ,I take your point - it took an age to decide on colour and Lightening and Tungsten were close but ultimately its a car to be driven each day and I didnt want to fixate too much on cleaning !
Having a solid colour Porsche GT3 gave me extra confidence - the Ceramic Grey on my SP10 showed every mark anyway but granted for the first day after cleaning looked amazing.
alscar said:
Pete , I was told no issue whatsoever which is why i got it done from new there as opposed to going the Indi route -which obviously would have been cheaper. Bear in mind they only took the secondary cats off and replaced them with QS straight through pipes as opposed to a different exhaust.
Frankie got his DBS done the other day there as well.
My mates DBS ingested its primary cats and AM said warranty void even though dealer had fit QS decat pipes!Frankie got his DBS done the other day there as well.
Car was only 2.5 years old and had done 4k miles.
AM eventually did replace engine (£25k) under warranty but what a struggle.
Get it in writing would be my advice.
Will be interesting to see if they will do this as many will have same dilemma when/if cats are ingested.
Reply not intended to upset - this is factual from experience.
AMDBSTony said:
alscar said:
Pete , I was told no issue whatsoever which is why i got it done from new there as opposed to going the Indi route -which obviously would have been cheaper. Bear in mind they only took the secondary cats off and replaced them with QS straight through pipes as opposed to a different exhaust.
Frankie got his DBS done the other day there as well.
My mates DBS ingested its primary cats and AM said warranty void even though dealer had fit QS decat pipes!Frankie got his DBS done the other day there as well.
Car was only 2.5 years old and had done 4k miles.
AM eventually did replace engine (£25k) under warranty but what a struggle.
Get it in writing would be my advice.
Will be interesting to see if they will do this as many will have same dilemma when/if cats are ingested.
Reply not intended to upset - this is factual from experience.
Similar experience with my 13 month old ASM2 gearbox
alscar said:
Tony , Was that dealer AM Works as that would upset me ?!
I think as part of a new car purchase and invoiced , in the event of an issue I think I would be fairly relaxed but I hear what you say.
HiI think as part of a new car purchase and invoiced , in the event of an issue I think I would be fairly relaxed but I hear what you say.
No, it wasn't Works you will be pleased to hear.
Seriously, i wouldn't be too relaxed until you have it in writing.
I think that your problems would start if a fault occurred with the car and you took it elsewhere. This is what happened to my mate. The Dealer that fit the cat delete would have honoured the warranty but the other dealer would not. Am being careful what i say here as you can imagine.
Get it in writing, thats all i can advise!
The cats are in a ridiculous place, they are an accident looking for somewhere to happen.
Another guy i know has completely replaced the headers so the cats are deleted near the engine, whilst this should stop the issue 100% the only problem he has now is that he cant get a warranty.
Close aren't they?
alscar said:
Tony , Was that dealer AM Works as that would upset me ?!
I think as part of a new car purchase and invoiced , in the event of an issue I think I would be fairly relaxed but I hear what you say.
Getting AML to pay out on a warranty can be a real pain in the backside.I think as part of a new car purchase and invoiced , in the event of an issue I think I would be fairly relaxed but I hear what you say.
It took me a month or so, a couple of dozen emails and an independent garage engineer appraisal of the manufacturing defect which was already recognised (V12V clutch squeak on power take up) by AML. That was only about £4000. A new V12 engine plus fitting would be what - £30,000?
You have a beautiful car - that colour combo is spectacular. Friendly advice based on having two warranty fights with AML is that Nick is 100% right - get it in writing from WS that the car is still warrantied even with the QS pipes.
JohnG1 said:
Friendly advice based on having two warranty fights with AML is that Nick is 100% right - get it in writing from WS that the car is still warrantied even with the QS pipes.
Any further developments here?Did WS supply written warranty confirmation?
Did WS refuse to supply written warranty confirmation?
I did read the thread where the V12 ingested it's primary cats, but always wondered how the deletion of the secondary cats could possibly be put down as a potential contributory cause for this. Could anybody care to explain further?
Clearly if AM ended up paying up then it must have been proven not to be the case, but would be interesting to hear the technical argument behind the case for it.
Clearly if AM ended up paying up then it must have been proven not to be the case, but would be interesting to hear the technical argument behind the case for it.
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