D Appleby Flywheel & Sintered Twin Plate Clutch exp.

[michael gould]

Big Ry said:

michael gould said:

As the owner of an auto DB9 I feel somewhat left out that i don't have to cough up £3500 every 20-30k miles

True, but the cost of keeping yourself in pipes and slippers can't be far short

ha ha .......i don't own any slippers and have never smoked a pipe...........apart from a few years ago in Amsterdam

[AMDBSNick]

michael gould said:

Big Ry said:

michael gould said:

As the owner of an auto DB9 I feel somewhat left out that i don't have to cough up £3500 every 20-30k miles

True, but the cost of keeping yourself in pipes and slippers can't be far short

ha ha .......i don't own any slippers and have never smoked a pipe...........apart from a few years ago in Amsterdam

[Big Ry]

BravoV8V said:

Nope, it's not that. Mike has a very definite reason and policy for not publishing all of his prices on his website. It has been explained on here in the past.

Not responding to all emails and phonecalls immediately is another issue, unfortunately.

Admittedly I haven't seen the reasons, but really, there are very few businesses that feel the need to keep prices a secret.......I would have thought it a good thing to be honest. If the pricing is transparent and open then it would mean that only serious punters actually took it further, thus not clogging up the vendors mailbox or voice-mail.

Maybe i'm being unreasonable, but when I contact somebody with the intention of possibly spending thousands of pounds with them, I expect the common courtesy of a response. I don't expect to have to plead with somebody for the chance of them relieving me of money, and in all honesty, an attitude like that would push me towards a competitor....rightly or wrongly.

[petop]

I understand that BR may want to tailor their pricing to the individual which is fine. But a rough estimate would be appreciated.

[Big Ry]

petop said:

I understand that BR may want to tailor their pricing to the individual which is fine. But a rough estimate would be appreciated.

If i'm honest I don't see why it should be tailored to the individual though. A clutch is a clutch, I don't care if you're Prince Charles or Joey Essex, it costs the same.

Personally, I think that sort of game probably puts off more punters than it attracts. If I thought a company were charging me more just because they thought they could, then I'd tell them to poke it. Yes it may well be cutting off my nose to spite my face, but I wouldn't let somebody take the piss out of principle. Yes that may end up be detrimental to me, but I'll live with that.

[Neil1300r]

x31james said:

I asked James at DAE, In answer to your question the flywheel is a custom design by DAE,the clutch is from the AML range as used on bigger engined graziano gearbox cars as you mentioned. in total there are 4 flywheel options designed to fit with the different clutch options...Hope this helps. After to talking to James he suggested the organic clutch over sintered as it might be a bit harsh in London traffic as you said on/off characteristics

Edited by x31james on Wednesday 15th April 12:30

So as your car was at an Aston dealer what's the advantage of the DAE clutch - if the DAE clutch is an AML one? Will the flywheel make any difference or is it just a price issue?

[gibbon]

BravoV8V said:

Nope, it's not that. Mike has a very definite reason and policy for not publishing all of his prices on his website. It has been explained on here in the past.

Apologies for the ignorance, but could you repeat the reason again?

[x31james]

Neil1300r said:

x31james said:

I asked James at DAE, In answer to your question the flywheel is a custom design by DAE,the clutch is from the AML range as used on bigger engined graziano gearbox cars as you mentioned. in total there are 4 flywheel options designed to fit with the different clutch options...Hope this helps. After to talking to James he suggested the organic clutch over sintered as it might be a bit harsh in London traffic as you said on/off characteristics

Edited by x31james on Wednesday 15th April 12:30

So as your car was at an Aston dealer what's the advantage of the DAE clutch - if the DAE clutch is an AML one? Will the flywheel make any difference or is it just a price issue?

Its not the same AML clutch but a twin plate AML clutch used in the more powerful cars. DAE can do the same clutch for 1005 + VAT according to there website but i thought id be better off going for a different clutch seeing though it only lasted 21k. Aston Martin wanted to charge me 3k to replace the standard one so to spend another 500 for a harder wearing one and the other DAE bits sounded like a better deal. Ill let you know if it does when i get it back Neil

[Impasse]

gibbon said:

BravoV8V said:

Nope, it's not that. Mike has a very definite reason and policy for not publishing all of his prices on his website. It has been explained on here in the past.

Apologies for the ignorance, but could you repeat the reason again?

But do it on a different thread. No idea why BR permeates everywhere on this forum, especially when they have their own sticky to talk all thing BR.

[Neil1300r]

x31james said:

Its not the same AML clutch but a twin plate AML clutch used in the more powerful cars. DAE can do the same clutch for 1005 + VAT according to there website but i thought id be better off going for a different clutch seeing though it only lasted 21k. Aston Martin wanted to charge me 3k to replace the standard one so to spend another 500 for a harder wearing one and the other DAE bits sounded like a better deal. Ill let you know if it does when i get it back Neil

Wonder why AM dealers don't offer it as its the weak point of the V8.

[AMDBSNick]

Neil1300r said:

Wonder why AM dealers don't offer it as its the weak point of the V8.

They do

[x31james]

AMDBSNick said:

Neil1300r said:

Wonder why AM dealers don't offer it as its the weak point of the V8.

They do

Is it something you looked into when you had your V8 Nick?

[x31james]

DAE have finished the car so will be picking it up tomorrow or friday well let you know how it is!

[AMDBSNick]

x31james said:

Is it something you looked into when you had your V8 Nick?

Yes James as it would have made it easier for Mrs Toms to drive. Ended up moving in to a car with the twin plate as standard so not needed in the end. Must add there was no issue with the original clutch just the effort needed. Bomberth will no doubt tell you whether the said car is still on the original clutch

[Quinny]

Jockman said:

I'm >seriously< loving all the pictures

Probably looks like modern art to you..........

[steveatesh]

AMDBSNick said:

Yes James as it would have made it easier for Mrs Toms to drive.

" Bong, AMDBSNick you are fines 20 man points for violation of the PH morality Standards "

[Bincenzo]

Big Ry said:

petop said:

I understand that BR may want to tailor their pricing to the individual which is fine. But a rough estimate would be appreciated.

If i'm honest I don't see why it should be tailored to the individual though. A clutch is a clutch, I don't care if you're Prince Charles or Joey Essex, it costs the same.

Personally, I think that sort of game probably puts off more punters than it attracts. If I thought a company were charging me more just because they thought they could, then I'd tell them to poke it. Yes it may well be cutting off my nose to spite my face, but I wouldn't let somebody take the piss out of principle. Yes that may end up be detrimental to me, but I'll live with that.

Chaps, there is a subtle difference between 'pricing to the individual' and 'tailoring the package to the individual'. I use BR, the OP has opted for DAE. He's happy, I'm happy and neither of us should be labelled as fanboys, for no other reason than it really grips my st. Periodically this happens, a mud slinging contest between customers of Indies, normally with both parties being ill informed. That's life on a forum, and I dare say both Mike and David could do without it. But FFS, please do not generalise and make sweeping statements about personal choice. And who the fk is Joey Essex?
Sorry, I'm in a bad mood.

[petop]

Well im not in a bad mood but as you quoted my post ill chirp in.
I would gladly go to BR but if i cant get a price out of them during the initial enquiry then it makes it hard to go further. I have limited time back in the UK and told them that in the message i sent but got nothing back. All i was saying is if a general price be displayed then it would make it easier?

[Bincenzo]

petop said:

Well im not in a bad mood but as you quoted my post ill chirp in.
I would gladly go to BR but if i cant get a price out of them during the initial enquiry then it makes it hard to go further. I have limited time back in the UK and told them that in the message i sent but got nothing back. All i was saying is if a general price be displayed then it would make it easier?

And you'd be right. I'm sure many have been put off by a lack of comms, something that BR are aware of. My comments were more in response to the perception that it's one price for one and a different price for another. That's why I quoted your post. I also get that you work away a lot. You're not the only one.

[petop]

Mate, im not having a go at anyone. My comment about the lack of visible pricing was actually due to different cars, requirements etc that BR may just wish to deal with the customer itself rather than putting prices out in public. Not trying to say anything else.