3 RHD V12 Vantage Roadsters for sale

3 RHD V12 Vantage Roadsters for sale

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Vee12V

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1,332 posts

160 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Especially like this quantum silver one with the red interior and LW seats. How are the values holding up?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

Also:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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You have missed one that looks only to appear on Autotrader. The Amethyst Red one with an interesting interior colour combination that you will either love or hate. Only 144 miles from new and they are looking for an eye watering £175k for it.

If you factor that one into the prices they vary quite a lot and difficult to know how they are coping. You range from Grange who dropped the price of theirs by £5k within a week of advertising it, so clearly want it moved on before the summer season has passed, through to Bramley who have stuck to the price advertised despite it clearly being out of line with the market. Does the fact that it has sat on a battery charger for 2/3 years and done no mileage make it worth nearly £50k more? I suppose we have our own view on that.

As an owner I think they have kept their value pretty well in comparison to the Coupe and they are fantastic to drive and, IMO, should be used. If I sold mine today it would lose me the least I have lost on an Aston so that must be good smile

The rarity value, only 38/40 in the UK, must help them retain their value better than most modern Astons but I would never buy it for that. It is an awesome car to drive and the 17k miles we have done in ours have been a fantastic experience yes

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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3 of the 4 so far mentioned have been for sale for a fair few months
Sort of suggesting they are overpriced
That said they do seem to hold their value better than other Vantages smile

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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mikey k said:
3 of the 4 so far mentioned have been for sale for a fair few months
Sort of suggesting they are overpriced
That said they do seem to hold their value better than other Vantages smile
Agree with all of that to a point

The vast majority of V12VRs were sold without a discount, typically costing £160-170k on the road, so substantially more than the list price difference on paper with the coupe, as the vast majority of buyers of V12V coupe will have paid far less than list (partially because so few coupes will have been factory orders by the 1st owners). Still agree with you and Ian in the post above, but it's a point worth taking into account

As a slight aside, I think that if there is scope for this car to really hold & potentially rise in value, it will only come into play once V12V production ceases fully and there is the realisation that this is genuinely the last of an era. In another year or two, one imagines DBS & V12V manual (coupes & roadsters) will potentially start to rise in value when it is firmly seen there will never be another V12 manual Aston (I appreciate manual DB9s also fall into that category but there were relatively few made). But there first needs to be an end to the current conjecture about manual re-appearing for this to happen strongly

As I say though, still agree with Ian & Mikey's posts

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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The white private buy would be my choice.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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I think you are right Jon
The truly limited editions seem to do well
The N400 are trading 10-15k over the same age 4.3's

downr

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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The new V12 engine is supposedly downsized and turbo-charged (a route I guess we already see BMW and Ferrari taking with their various engines). I wonder what difference that will make to the driving experience? I've never driven a V12 turbo (or even a V8 Turbo).

If it doesn't work out well it could add a bit more cache to the old normally aspirated V12s

Vee12V

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1,332 posts

160 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Would obviously be looking at LHD cars (as I'm from Lux), but there just doesn't seem te be any for sale atm. Only found a black on black one in Belgium, but it hasn't got the LW seats and I'd be looking for something a bit more spritely colour wise. Thanks for the answers.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Vee12V said:
Would obviously be looking at LHD cars (as I'm from Lux), but there just doesn't seem te be any for sale atm. Only found a black on black one in Belgium, but it hasn't got the LW seats and I'd be looking for something a bit more spritely colour wise. Thanks for the answers.
It's an interesting point - many of the roadsters have been specced with regular seats and whilst on the face of it, a V12 soft top Aston is a tourer (which as it happens it does a very good job of with either seat) which might suggest lightweights to be inappropriate, it's still a pretty hardcore car and the lightweight seats are a must for many of us

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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jonby said:
It's an interesting point - many of the roadsters have been specced with regular seats and whilst on the face of it, a V12 soft top Aston is a tourer (which as it happens it does a very good job of with either seat) which might suggest lightweights to be inappropriate, it's still a pretty hardcore car and the lightweight seats are a must for many of us
Agree with Jonby. Having the LW's in the S it is the only thing we would change on the V12VR as, believe it or not, we find them far more comfortable and give far better support when pushing on than the sports seats.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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IanV12VR said:
jonby said:
It's an interesting point - many of the roadsters have been specced with regular seats and whilst on the face of it, a V12 soft top Aston is a tourer (which as it happens it does a very good job of with either seat) which might suggest lightweights to be inappropriate, it's still a pretty hardcore car and the lightweight seats are a must for many of us
Agree with Jonby. Having the LW's in the S it is the only thing we would change on the V12VR as, believe it or not, we find them far more comfortable and give far better support when pushing on than the sports seats.
Yes that's the bit I should have added - they don't feel like a compromise but instead, are actually more supportive. I've never had a passenger who has said anything other than how comfortable they find the seats. Air con isn't terribly effective roof down but the heating is surprisingly decent which I find more than sufficient to make up for the lack of heated seats, as the LWs can't have a heated option fitted

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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For LHD cars you are about a year too late. There where about four around in Germany this time last year all at a reasonable price and where not selling then at years end they all suddenly sold.

Vee12V

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160 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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cayman-black said:
For LHD cars you are about a year too late. There where about four around in Germany this time last year all at a reasonable price and where not selling then at years end they all suddenly sold.
Seems people are holding onto them then. I'll keep an eye out in the mean time.
And I agree that the lw seats are far more comfortable than the sports seats, plus you're sitting lower. They're a must.

Edited by Vee12V on Wednesday 29th July 12:53

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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IanV12VR said:
jonby said:
It's an interesting point - many of the roadsters have been specced with regular seats and whilst on the face of it, a V12 soft top Aston is a tourer (which as it happens it does a very good job of with either seat) which might suggest lightweights to be inappropriate, it's still a pretty hardcore car and the lightweight seats are a must for many of us
Agree with Jonby. Having the LW's in the S it is the only thing we would change on the V12VR as, believe it or not, we find them far more comfortable and give far better support when pushing on than the sports seats.
yes even in the V8 wink

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Vee12V said:
cayman-black said:
For LHD cars you are about a year too late. There where about four around in Germany this time last year all at a reasonable price and where not selling then at years end they all suddenly sold.
Seems people are holding onto them then. I'll keep an eye out in the mean time.
And I agree that the lw seats are far more comfortable than the sports seats, plus you're sitting lower. They're a must.
I think the waiting list speculators have now off load their cars (probably waiting on 488 or GT3RS now) and the V12's are now falling in to the hands of enthusiasts who will hold on to them longer.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I'm intrigued to see what happens to the value of these if the rumours turn out to be true and later in the life they offer a manual V12VSR run out special.

I'd imagine there would be 101 very f**ked off V12VR customers if it happened, but we all know Aston aren't beyond doing things like that.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Beefmeister said:
I'm intrigued to see what happens to the value of these if the rumours turn out to be true and later in the life they offer a manual V12VSR run out special.

I'd imagine there would be 101 very f**ked off V12VR customers if it happened, but we all know Aston aren't beyond doing things like that.
At the moment, no matter what anyone says to the contrary, it is only a rumour - there is nobody with an order for such a car (didn't someone on here claim to have a mate taking delivery of one in August/Sept ?)

But that doesn't mean it won't happen. If it does, it will depend on whether at one extreme, it's simply a mainstream option that results in a fair few being made or at the other, part of a very limited run of say 100 cars, which includes both coupes & roadsters, SS & manual, so the total number of 3 pedal RHD roadster that are produced might literally be a tiny handful

If it's the latter, I'd not be so concerned although I'd be miffed there's something 'better' available. If it's the former, I would indeed be very p*****d off, as would all the other V12VR owners that I have discussed this with