2009 manual V12 Vantage (Magma Red)
Discussion
krisdelta said:
Nice as that red car is (unusual colour, caught my eye a few times too!), I'd keep my powder dry until it's cold, wet and wintery. You'll be able to get warrantied main dealer car for that price. Obviously if it checks out 100% and you get sub 65k then all well and good and you've got a good deal. 
KrisD,Its been for sale that long, that the colour grew on me too
I was lucky enough to drive a V12 Vantage over to Ireland for a friend a while back - so the detective work I'm currently putting in may all be worth it.
I'm thinking £62-63k if paperwork all checks out and post a positive inspection at either Bridge Mill or Bamford Rose. Will have to cross the bridge of getting the car taken to an Independent for an inspection at some point (if things get that far).
When i first spoke to the selling dealer on the phone I mentioned £65k to see their reaction, the "salesman" went off to talk to the Boss and didn't put the phone down on me when he returned - so there's a little more to be had off the buying price i reckon and then spend on having it detailed again as per GPH's post
Edited by nw28840 on Friday 31st July 11:37
AMDBSNick said:
nw28840 said:
Get the inspection done by Bridge Mill or do i go Main Dealer ?
Bridge MillAlso took a punt and called a company local to Stratstone Amersham with the same name as the second registered keeper of the vehicle. I spoke to a secretary , she's new in the job unfortunately and so doesn't know if the car was in the park car in early 2014 - The charm still works at least, either that or she spoke to me out of pity
I left my number , asked her to speak to leave a note with the Boss, mention I'm looking at a car that he may well be the former owner of - and I'd like a quick chat with him if he a) was the owner and b) is happy to chat.
Edited by nw28840 on Friday 31st July 12:26
There are some great and hugely accurate posts here - but I'd say go with your gut. If you like the car and it's mechanically sound, things like a missed service really won't break a sale in the future. These are pretty bulletproof cars and if you get it up to date with servicing and look after it for as long as you own it, a future owner will see that you've looked after it. These things will only ever go up in value and it's a pretty rare colour combination too. Someone at the right time will make you a great offer if you stick fast. First and foremost, these things are meant to be driven. If it's in budget and it feels right - go get her and enjoy many years of that harmonious noise
Best of luck,
Chris.
Best of luck,
Chris.
JohnPM said:
Seen a couple of posts saying Aston V12 pre 2010 can have little end issues, think there was also a post about works advising a prospective V12V owner to get a 2010 or later car but without explaining why. Haven't seen any 2009 V12V owners reporting problems though.
I am guessing somewhat now, but in 2009 would an identical V12 (510 bhp) have been fitted in the DB9 also?
Recently saw a YouTube video which shocked me. It was a mechanic in USA (English dialect) dismantling an under 10,000 mile V12 (think early DB9) with two smashed rear pistons. He was indicating that the pistons were of poor quality (sourced from a US pickup truck), and the design of the oil feed must be faulty.
I did not know what to make of it all. Was there a design problem, or was it to do with the tale about the V12 dip sticks being too long, ie. low oil level?
GPH said:
Perhaps you'll find the following of use. This is the car that was sold by Amersham at the beginning of 2014. I was interested to see it so stopped by when nearby but it had just been sold and left the premises. I happened to have downloaded their pictures with the reg number as the image name OU59CVV.
It was for sale at £66,476 with 32,428 miles on it.
It reappeared for sale 3 months later with 34,000 miles on it priced at £69,989.
I thought it very strange the owner kept it for only 3 months so didn't pursue it any further but of course it could just be for a simple reason like they weren't comfortable in the seats.
It looks like they tidied it up quite a bit! Guess they were cheesed off with it sat on their forecourt...It was for sale at £66,476 with 32,428 miles on it.
It reappeared for sale 3 months later with 34,000 miles on it priced at £69,989.
I thought it very strange the owner kept it for only 3 months so didn't pursue it any further but of course it could just be for a simple reason like they weren't comfortable in the seats.
V8V Pete said:
Personally, I definitely wouldn't rely on the Dealer 140 point check if buying this and would get the most reputable indy to inspect it to within an inch of its life on their terms. Why won't the dealer let it go off site to be inspected?
LISTEN to Pete.The 140 point check is a selling tool - not a buying tool...
KF
Ken Figenus said:
V8V Pete said:
Personally, I definitely wouldn't rely on the Dealer 140 point check if buying this and would get the most reputable indy to inspect it to within an inch of its life on their terms. Why won't the dealer let it go off site to be inspected?
LISTEN to Pete.The 140 point check is a selling tool - not a buying tool...
KF
I will be talking to Bridge MIll, I spoke to my Independent here in Hampshire this afternoon as I want them to talk to Brdge Mill and go through the details of any inspection done.
I've emailed Bridge Mill this evening with the details so will talk to them in the next few days about an inspection - on their website they say they do inspections at sellers "address". I think I'd prefer the car was taken to them for the inspection but will see what Bridge Mill say about this first and then cross that bridge with the selling dealer afterwards.
On a sad note , my independent in Hampshire is only a few miles from Blackbushe airport where the plane crash took place this afternoon (RIP), A mate came over and drove me there in my Vantage Roadster with the roof down as the weather was so nice - we were supposed to be going to go to the Blackbushe cafe , but all this talk of the V12 Vantage meant we went to see my Independent instead to talk about the car with them. We arrived at the independent just a few minutes before 3pm !
I've emailed Bridge Mill this evening with the details so will talk to them in the next few days about an inspection - on their website they say they do inspections at sellers "address". I think I'd prefer the car was taken to them for the inspection but will see what Bridge Mill say about this first and then cross that bridge with the selling dealer afterwards.
On a sad note , my independent in Hampshire is only a few miles from Blackbushe airport where the plane crash took place this afternoon (RIP), A mate came over and drove me there in my Vantage Roadster with the roof down as the weather was so nice - we were supposed to be going to go to the Blackbushe cafe , but all this talk of the V12 Vantage meant we went to see my Independent instead to talk about the car with them. We arrived at the independent just a few minutes before 3pm !
Edited by nw28840 on Friday 31st July 21:44
Jon39 said:
Recently saw a YouTube video which shocked me. It was a mechanic in USA (English dialect) dismantling an under 10,000 mile V12 (think early DB9) with two smashed rear pistons. He was indicating that the pistons were of poor quality (sourced from a US pickup truck), and the design of the oil feed must be faulty.
FYI, that YouTube vid surfaced on here a couple of years ago. The mechanic in question was proved to be a lying idiot. Nick - I don't have too much on this Magma Red V12V (S00304). I only have the one reg OU59CVV. This car is one of eight Magma's on my register and the only other Magma Red V12V with Phantom Grey interior is S00008.
The only notes I have on it are that it was for sale at Stratstone AM Amersham @ 32428m for £69991 then £72565 then £66476 during the period October 2013 - February 2014.
HTH and good luck.
The only notes I have on it are that it was for sale at Stratstone AM Amersham @ 32428m for £69991 then £72565 then £66476 during the period October 2013 - February 2014.
HTH and good luck.
nw28840 said:
Ken Figenus said:
I have heard of the odd little end issues pre 2010 V12. Do a search on the BR thread
Hopefully that would be something an inspection would pick up on ? ( I don't have a clue when it comes to this sort of thing )
Ken Figenus said:
nw28840 said:
Ken Figenus said:
I have heard of the odd little end issues pre 2010 V12. Do a search on the BR thread
Hopefully that would be something an inspection would pick up on ? ( I don't have a clue when it comes to this sort of thing )
Thanks, have added to my list when I talk to Bridge Mill about an inspection on Monday..
nw28840 said:
Nick / Jockman - Anyone in particular at Bridge Mill I should ask for / talk to ?
Also took a punt and called a company local to Stratstone Amersham with the same name as the second registered keeper of the vehicle. I spoke to a secretary , she's new in the job unfortunately and so doesn't know if the car was in the park car in early 2014 - The charm still works at least, either that or she spoke to me out of pity
I left my number , asked her to speak to leave a note with the Boss, mention I'm looking at a car that he may well be the former owner of - and I'd like a quick chat with him if he a) was the owner and b) is happy to chat.
Hi Nick,Also took a punt and called a company local to Stratstone Amersham with the same name as the second registered keeper of the vehicle. I spoke to a secretary , she's new in the job unfortunately and so doesn't know if the car was in the park car in early 2014 - The charm still works at least, either that or she spoke to me out of pity
I left my number , asked her to speak to leave a note with the Boss, mention I'm looking at a car that he may well be the former owner of - and I'd like a quick chat with him if he a) was the owner and b) is happy to chat.
Sorry for late reply, I had an appointment at Edgbaston yesterday
I don't know anyone at Bridge Mill, I just know they have an excellent reputation. If it were me I would only use BR but that is because I know how meticulous they are. I'm sure BM are the same.
On the service history point. I have this week considered chopping both our cars in for one car from "Works". I made it absolutely clear that both had only been serviced by an Indie (BR) in the last two years. They didn't bat an eyelid and came up with an excellent deal.
Nick
If you are getting an inspection of that car, I would ask the firm inspecting it if they will weigh the brake discs.
If they say no, ask them to do so. And ask them if they bake the discs before weighing them. If they are bemused and haven't got a clue what you are talking about - walk away.
These discs are very expensive to replace (something like £14,000 for four) and measuring them is not enough - you need to know the density.
If they say no, ask them to do so. And ask them if they bake the discs before weighing them. If they are bemused and haven't got a clue what you are talking about - walk away.
These discs are very expensive to replace (something like £14,000 for four) and measuring them is not enough - you need to know the density.
Nick,
Same here, my V8 Vantage Roadster had had all services done by HWM since new ( 2012-14 by me ) and this June I chose not to renew the warranty for the first time and also chose to have the car serviced at my local independent (at the same cost as it would have been at HWM) . My car is an 08 plate on 67k.
Replacing a DB9 and a DBS with one car ! It must be one special car to chop those two in for ! Look forward to hearing all about it if you go through with the deal. Depending on what happens with the V12 I obviously may have to sell my current car , no way I'm part-ex'ing it though, I'd hoping to keep any negotiations extremely short with the selling dealer if I go through with the purchase. Such a shame Works already sold the Hammerhead Silver V12 Vantage they were selling earlier this year - otherwise I'd have met you there
I've dropped Bridge Mill an email , will follow up with them on Monday, otherwise BR are my next choice - but it's a fair way for them to travel or to get the car to them.
Same here, my V8 Vantage Roadster had had all services done by HWM since new ( 2012-14 by me ) and this June I chose not to renew the warranty for the first time and also chose to have the car serviced at my local independent (at the same cost as it would have been at HWM) . My car is an 08 plate on 67k.
Replacing a DB9 and a DBS with one car ! It must be one special car to chop those two in for ! Look forward to hearing all about it if you go through with the deal. Depending on what happens with the V12 I obviously may have to sell my current car , no way I'm part-ex'ing it though, I'd hoping to keep any negotiations extremely short with the selling dealer if I go through with the purchase. Such a shame Works already sold the Hammerhead Silver V12 Vantage they were selling earlier this year - otherwise I'd have met you there
I've dropped Bridge Mill an email , will follow up with them on Monday, otherwise BR are my next choice - but it's a fair way for them to travel or to get the car to them.
Edited by nw28840 on Sunday 2nd August 00:20
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