Things are getting desperate for the DB9

Things are getting desperate for the DB9

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Armen

252 posts

148 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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CSK1 said:
Isn't a DBS a road legal DBR9?
Not at all !!!

old phart

404 posts

110 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Had a bit of fun when I took my DB9 to the track. Only had them on for the drive to the track, track, and ride home. Everyone got a kick out of it. As to the 'Special Edition' apparently there are people out there that collect special edition everything. It just all depends on how deep their pockets are. Special edition Harry Potter mug, Omega watch or 007 AM. It all usually ends up on ebay at some point with 'best offer' and no takers.

Vanin

1,010 posts

166 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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I would also have "Moneypenny" stitched onto the passenger seat and "Plenty O'Toole" and "Pussy Galore" on the rear seats.
In for a (Money)Penny, in for a Pound(ing) is what I say!

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

176 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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mikey k said:
CSK1 said:
williamp said:
Bond should bave had a road legal DBR9, rather then a DBS...
Isn't a DBS a road legal DBR9?
Not by a long way!
Described by AML as such in their model introduction press release, regardless of the reality.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Exactly over stating it frown

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
mikey k said:
CSK1 said:
williamp said:
Bond should bave had a road legal DBR9, rather then a DBS...
Isn't a DBS a road legal DBR9?
Not by a long way!
Described by AML as such in their model introduction press release, regardless of the reality.
So DBS was based on DBR9, as opposed to the DBRS9 (a cheaper, detuned, less extreme version of the DBR9) which Aston released on the basis that it was the race car version of the DB9 :-)

Zuman

188 posts

113 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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James1927 said:


I've not had a bad word said about it since day one - the only negativity seems to be on this forum.
This is an interesting concept. There are certainly significant differences in taste, and it makes no sense to argue that something - literally - tastes horrible when others clearly enjoy it. On the other hand, it also makes no sense to serve something that has an "acquired" taste to a general audience, as that's both wasteful and disrespectful. So I suppose that one should at least be be aware when dealing with such matters.
The wild card comes into play when actions outside of the mainstream risk devaluing the positions of others. While an Aston Martin owner has little valid argument opposing an owner's desire to wrap his DB4GT in gold chrome vinyl (other than "you are not respecting a heritage many hold with deep affection"), there may be more of an argument when a manufacturer, such as Aston Martin, takes an action that many feel devalues the inherent value of the brand. Our cars are not the fastest, edgiest, most luxurious, or even most expensive, but the combination of their attributes makes them arguably the most "classy" (to use an un-classy word). I believe that many of us regard the Bond edition as diminishing that somewhat.

Philip0

329 posts

113 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Zuman said:
This is an interesting concept. There are certainly significant differences in taste, and it makes no sense to argue that something - literally - tastes horrible when others clearly enjoy it. On the other hand, it also makes no sense to serve something that has an "acquired" taste to a general audience, as that's both wasteful and disrespectful. So I suppose that one should at least be be aware when dealing with such matters.
The wild card comes into play when actions outside of the mainstream risk devaluing the positions of others. While an Aston Martin owner has little valid argument opposing an owner's desire to wrap his DB4GT in gold chrome vinyl (other than "you are not respecting a heritage many hold with deep affection"), there may be more of an argument when a manufacturer, such as Aston Martin, takes an action that many feel devalues the inherent value of the brand. Our cars are not the fastest, edgiest, most luxurious, or even most expensive, but the combination of their attributes makes them arguably the most "classy" (to use an un-classy word). I believe that many of us regard the Bond edition as diminishing that somewhat.
+1

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I saw M15SPY this weekend on a DB9 Volante. Couldn't even get the right secret service!

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Philip0 said:
Zuman said:
This is an interesting concept. There are certainly significant differences in taste, and it makes no sense to argue that something - literally - tastes horrible when others clearly enjoy it. On the other hand, it also makes no sense to serve something that has an "acquired" taste to a general audience, as that's both wasteful and disrespectful. So I suppose that one should at least be be aware when dealing with such matters.
The wild card comes into play when actions outside of the mainstream risk devaluing the positions of others. While an Aston Martin owner has little valid argument opposing an owner's desire to wrap his DB4GT in gold chrome vinyl (other than "you are not respecting a heritage many hold with deep affection"), there may be more of an argument when a manufacturer, such as Aston Martin, takes an action that many feel devalues the inherent value of the brand. Our cars are not the fastest, edgiest, most luxurious, or even most expensive, but the combination of their attributes makes them arguably the most "classy" (to use an un-classy word). I believe that many of us regard the Bond edition as diminishing that somewhat.
+1
The main thrust of your argument is true to a point. There are a few 'buts'. I don't think this will devalue the brand by any kind of tangible amount, partly because it's simply not that tacky, partly because most of the wider public won't ever be aware of the existence of this edition (how many people have ever been aware there was a Dunhill edition for instance ?) and partly because if there already many owners with 007/spy/bond registration plates, this edition will hardly make a difference to the general view of aston martins

I also think that when Aston already display some incredibly tacky Q customisations at the motor shows, this edition pales into insignificance. It's worth bearing in mind btw that Aston have already used every opportunity they can to use the 007 brand, from a dual branded AML/Bond clothing collection to the '007' moniker that the LM24 car had until they dropped down from LMP1 a couple of years ago, to GTE - put simply, this really isn't that new so I don't see this edition making a measurable difference to public perception

I do wholeheartedly disagree with the whole 'no such thing as bad/horrible taste' argument however :-) Anyone that has their steak cooked well done doesn't have 'different taste' - they are simply wrong !

williamp

19,261 posts

273 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Dont laugh...


Jon39

12,830 posts

143 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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jonby said:
... (how many people have ever been aware there was a Dunhill edition for instance ?)

Is that a DB9 with the smokers pack? - smile


jonby said:
... Aston have already used every opportunity they can to use the 007 brand ...

Except they did not allow customers to buy a DB10.
Unless it turns out to be the Vantage Mk2, although by then, Spectre will be two years old, and have become a wet afternoon TV film.



RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I hate to break this news to some of the posters on this thread but:

1 the Aston Martin brand is entirely synonymous with Bond
2. It will always be synonymous with bond in the publics eyes no matter how many people on here bury their heads in the sand
3. Aston Martin is regularly voted one of the coolest brands in the world, in part because of that bond connection
4. The value of the cars (including all of yours) is higher as a result of that connection
5. The cygnet did far more to destroy the brand credibility than a 150car limited edition db9 will
6.....as will seeing the company go bust through not exploiting what few advantages it has left (eg the bond connection).
7. I wonder how many here bought a quantum or casino royale coloured car without realising the film connection? Presumably we'll get Spectre Black at some point?

Anyone for a Bulliit mustang?

kensilver

312 posts

119 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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I always associate spies and its filmic fantasy with something you follow as a child, then grow out of once you notice girls.

Grownups don't emulate or play being a spy, own vanity number plates, do manscaping or drive baby versions of real cars... they lead nations and wrassle bars, and can easily afford the fines to drive everywhere at breakneck speeds in growling 12 cylinder works of art.

williamp

19,261 posts

273 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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kensilver said:
I always associate spies and its filmic fantasy with something you follow as a child, then grow out of once you notice girls.

Grownups don't emulate or play being a spy, own vanity number plates, do manscaping or drive baby versions of real cars... they lead nations and wrassle bars, and can easily afford the fines to drive everywhere at breakneck speeds in growling 12 cylinder works of art.

Do you mean wrestle bras??

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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kensilver said:
I always associate spies and its filmic fantasy with something you follow as a child, then grow out of once you notice girls.

Grownups don't emulate or play being a spy, own vanity number plates, do manscaping or drive baby versions of real cars... they lead nations and wrassle bars, and can easily afford the fines to drive everywhere at breakneck speeds in growling 12 cylinder works of art.
I think my generation doesn't want to grow up (me included!) it's far more fun doing ALL of those things rather than just what you think grown ups should be doing smile

kensilver

312 posts

119 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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williamp said:

Do you mean wrestle bras??
That sounds even more interesting, though possibly more dangerous than hitting on bears smile

kensilver

312 posts

119 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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RobDown said:
kensilver said:
I always associate spies and its filmic fantasy with something you follow as a child, then grow out of once you notice girls.

Grownups don't emulate or play being a spy, own vanity number plates, do manscaping or drive baby versions of real cars... they lead nations and wrassle bars, and can easily afford the fines to drive everywhere at breakneck speeds in growling 12 cylinder works of art.
I think my generation doesn't want to grow up (me included!) it's far more fun doing ALL of those things rather than just what you think grown ups should be doing smile
That's the contradiction. Aston Martins are cars for grownups, no question, but it also appeals to the eternal boy in all of us.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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I don't ever want to grow up !

I hope I am still dropping down through the gears when I approach a tunnel, to be at maximum revs when I'm going through the tunnel, at 80 years old

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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jonby said:
I don't ever want to grow up !

I hope I am still dropping down through the gears when I approach a tunnel, to be at maximum revs when I'm going through the tunnel, at 80 years old
+1 (and with the hearing aid turned up to maximum!)