Checking Oil Level on a V12VS

Checking Oil Level on a V12VS

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roughrider

975 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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cayman-black said:
Really? So what was all this about then, and Ian must be doing it wrong. eek
The OP was mis-informed by somebody who thought all Astons are dry-sump. Only the V8 is dry-sump, and needs to be run prior to checking oil level.

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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roughrider said:
The OP was mis-informed by somebody who thought all Astons are dry-sump. Only the V8 is dry-sump, and needs to be run prior to checking oil level.
Seems so frown

CSK1

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1,604 posts

124 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Are you going to change your way of checking the oil level on your V12VSR Ian? Just checking if you are now convinced it is the same for V12S and V12. Strange how some dealers are misinformed about this and spread this wrong message out!

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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CSK1 said:
Are you going to change your way of checking the oil level on your V12VSR Ian? Just checking if you are now convinced it is the same for V12S and V12. Strange how some dealers are misinformed about this and spread this wrong message out!
More research needed. I am surprised that from two respected sources I have been told the same thing which now could be wrong. All I know is that when I checked it with the engine cold the oil level was very low for a car that had done so few miles and then when I followed the procedure outlined to me it was fine.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

138 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Surely the level needs to be checked cold for a car with a wet sump?
How on earth would you get regular consistent gauge with oil dripping back into the sump?

Quinny

15,814 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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3 pages on the intricacies of using a dip stick.....roflrofl

Next week .......how to pump up a tyrebiggrin

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

176 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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IanV12VR said:
All I know is that when I checked it with the engine cold the oil level was very low for a car that had done so few miles and then when I followed the procedure outlined to me it was fine.
C'mon, how is that even possible? You need to try it once again.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Quinny said:
3 pages on the intricacies of using a dip stick.....roflrofl

Next week .......how to pump up a tyrebiggrin


dry sumps need running
Wet sumps don't
Simples

Neil1300r

5,487 posts

178 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Quinny said:
Next week .......how to pump up a tyrebiggrin
I thought the tyre pressure monitoring system did that for me, at least that's what I got told -applies to all V8's




whistle

CSK1

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1,604 posts

124 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
IanV12VR said:
All I know is that when I checked it with the engine cold the oil level was very low for a car that had done so few miles and then when I followed the procedure outlined to me it was fine.
C'mon, how is that even possible? You need to try it once again.
For me it is the opposite. Been checking running the engine before checking and it was lower than when I checked it today without running the engine. Seems logical. Sorry to be a bore! We'll get to four pages shortly I'm sure!

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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IanV12VR said:
All I know is that when I checked it with the engine cold the oil level was very low for a car that had done so few miles, and then when I followed the procedure outlined to me it was fine.
It could be a magician. Hope it is not Specsavers.


Phil74891

1,067 posts

133 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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As an attempt to get this to four pages.......I experienced this earlier in the year:

After my 3,000 mile European tour where I checked the oil every week using the cold method, (not the hot method), I put the car back into storage for about 6 weeks. When I picked it up again, the low oil warning message came on as soon as I inserted the key. I immediately checked the oil and it was just below the half way point on the dipstick. I added half a litre of Mobil 1, which I had in the boot, waited a few minutes and checked the level again. It was almost at the top of the appropriate measuring area on the dipstick. I started the car, reset the warning message and drove off.

I guess the moral of this story is that the warning light seems to come on while there is still sufficient oil in the engine, thereby giving you a chance to rectify the issue before your engine explodes.

Does anyone else have any exciting engine oil topping up stories to tell?


barbuckle

28 posts

237 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Well since you are all so keen on "tales of the dipstick" ...
Drove off of the Isle of Man ferry at Douglas and the low oil warning activated on V12VS. Stopped and dipped oil (wthout running engine as we all know that ony applies to dry sump cars such as my previous Maserati Gransport). Stick showed oil at Minimum. Added 1/2 litre, redipped and was half way between Min and Max so added the other1/2 litre. Dipped again and it was on Max. So pretty standard behaviour from the dipstick!

However - the oil warning only cleared from the dash when I got off the ferry back on the mainland (made the day-trip more "interesting" than I had anticipated! Car had done at least 3K miles on the litre of oil (has only done 6K miles total). Cannot be sure exactly as had not previously used the dipstick to check the level. It is possible it was under-filled when I purchased.

Or possibly an anti-TT circuit warning...?

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Probably because the V12 oil system is that vast it takes that long for the level change to affect the pressure wink
Onwards to page 4 smile

northernmedia

1,988 posts

138 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Just checked the manual again and it most definitely states to check whilst the engine is cold.
(MY2013 V12VS)






CSK1

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1,604 posts

124 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Phil74891 said:
I guess the moral of this story is that the warning light seems to come on while there is still sufficient oil in the engine, thereby giving you a chance to rectify the issue before your engine explodes.
I think the warning light is for low oil pressure, not low oil level in the engine.

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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We must be close to a fourth page by now, then we can stop discussing dipsticks. Anyway, it has now been established that it was the dealer employee's lack of product knowledge, that made us all think about oil flow.


CSK1 said:
I think the warning light is for low oil pressure, not low oil level in the engine.

Yes, this confusion is especially widespread amongst the younger generation.
They now expect to be informed about everything, via the dashboard. You can see an increasing example of this syndrome on foggy days. Some of the absence of headlights, are drivers who expect their lights to always turn on when needed. They don't know that the sensor for that, will not be triggered by bright fog.




cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Great the end , thanks northernmedia cant be clearer than that!

Phil74891

1,067 posts

133 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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CSK1 said:
Phil74891 said:
I guess the moral of this story is that the warning light seems to come on while there is still sufficient oil in the engine, thereby giving you a chance to rectify the issue before your engine explodes.
I think the warning light is for low oil pressure, not low oil level in the engine.
I think the error message said something like 'Low Oil - check levels.'

I may have dreamt that though.

If this takes it to the fourth page do I win some oil?

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Well, seems I was completely wrong so just as well I don't check my oil that often. I have had it confirmed by Customer Services at Gaydon that if the car has been left standing for more than 12 hours then it can be checked without starting the engine. The good news, for me anyway, is that just been out and checked the oil and it is OK.

There was a service bulletin issued in April for all MY2013 for all V12s which sets out the procedure for checking the oil where the car has been run but is not yet cold. Probably would impact the service engineers more than most.

Did we make 4 pages?