V12V - Front light unit condensation
Discussion
Good news, hope the fix works for you.
Was it the same fix as this Zag had? I didn't think it would be long before the kit was made available mainstream after a trial on a few cars.
So i'm lead to believe by owner and after talking to dealer staff, the kit was factory conceived and fitted by Cheltenham under warranty. Seems to cure the problem.
The kit took a 'T' off from Aircon system, the dry air feeds each headlamp.
You cant see too well from the pics, but the pipework running along the front is the feed to each lamp
and the pipework shown here is the outlet, put in an area where high airflow draws the Aircon / dry air through the circuit.
is a little prototype looking but i guess the kits now look more production
classic vanquish has similar idea, but whereas the Vanquish has a hole in the front part of the light, in the fix the zag had the dry AC air was flowing in the back part of the lamp only, but as i said, it does seem to work.
here is classic Vanquish lamp, and picture underneath where pipe exits underside
edited for accuracy
there is no difference whatsoever between V12V lamp and Zag, the Zag only difference is surrounding carbon 'cowl'
Was it the same fix as this Zag had? I didn't think it would be long before the kit was made available mainstream after a trial on a few cars.
So i'm lead to believe by owner and after talking to dealer staff, the kit was factory conceived and fitted by Cheltenham under warranty. Seems to cure the problem.
The kit took a 'T' off from Aircon system, the dry air feeds each headlamp.
You cant see too well from the pics, but the pipework running along the front is the feed to each lamp
and the pipework shown here is the outlet, put in an area where high airflow draws the Aircon / dry air through the circuit.
is a little prototype looking but i guess the kits now look more production
classic vanquish has similar idea, but whereas the Vanquish has a hole in the front part of the light, in the fix the zag had the dry AC air was flowing in the back part of the lamp only, but as i said, it does seem to work.
here is classic Vanquish lamp, and picture underneath where pipe exits underside
edited for accuracy
there is no difference whatsoever between V12V lamp and Zag, the Zag only difference is surrounding carbon 'cowl'
Edited by BamfordMike on Monday 14th December 11:30
Flugplatz said:
No, I was offered that fix but insisted on new replacement headlights.
ok, i think that was offered to Zag also but the thinking was seeing that because there had been no design iteration, misting was just as likely to reoccur on same but new, so choice to make an improvement was taken.would be interesting to know if keep going until a pair of lights that dont mist is the answer or opt for A/C dry air solution.
BamfordMike said:
Good news, hope the fix works for you.
Was it the same fix as this Zag had? I didn't think it would be long before the kit was made available mainstream after a trial on a few cars.
So i'm lead to believe by owner and after talking to dealer staff, the kit was factory conceived and fitted by Cheltenham under warranty. Seems to cure the problem.
The kit took a 'T' off from Aircon system, the dry air feeds each headlamp.
You cant see too well from the pics, but the pipework running along the front is the feed to each lamp
and the pipework shown here is the outlet, put in an area where high airflow draws the Aircon / dry air through the circuit.
is a little prototype looking but i guess the kits now look more production
classic vanquish has similar idea, but whereas the Vanquish has a hole in the front part of the light, in the fix the zag had the dry AC air was flowing in the back part of the lamp only, but as i said, it does seem to work.
edited for accuracy
there is no difference whatsoever between V12V lamp and Zag, the Zag only difference is surrounding carbon 'cowl'
Hi Mike,Was it the same fix as this Zag had? I didn't think it would be long before the kit was made available mainstream after a trial on a few cars.
So i'm lead to believe by owner and after talking to dealer staff, the kit was factory conceived and fitted by Cheltenham under warranty. Seems to cure the problem.
The kit took a 'T' off from Aircon system, the dry air feeds each headlamp.
You cant see too well from the pics, but the pipework running along the front is the feed to each lamp
and the pipework shown here is the outlet, put in an area where high airflow draws the Aircon / dry air through the circuit.
is a little prototype looking but i guess the kits now look more production
classic vanquish has similar idea, but whereas the Vanquish has a hole in the front part of the light, in the fix the zag had the dry AC air was flowing in the back part of the lamp only, but as i said, it does seem to work.
edited for accuracy
there is no difference whatsoever between V12V lamp and Zag, the Zag only difference is surrounding carbon 'cowl'
Edited by BamfordMike on Monday 14th December 11:30
So if I understand that right, AML now sell an aftermarket kit of hoses and whatnot to dry out the front headlights. Is this a proper AML part number kit? If so, do you know roughly what the kit costs and how many hours labour are needed to fit it?
JohnG1 said:
Hi Mike,
So if I understand that right, AML now sell an aftermarket kit of hoses and whatnot to dry out the front headlights. Is this a proper AML part number kit? If so, do you know roughly what the kit costs and how many hours labour are needed to fit it?
I'm ready to be corrected here, I dont think the kit which comes direct from mothership (well, it did for Zag, dealer fitted under instruction from factory) can be bought, it is offered as a measure when all else fails and misting is annoying to point of owner not being able to live with it (they might all do it, but that doesn't mean an owner has to accept it, especially when under 3 year maker warranty) and reaches point of stalemate when a number of prior lamp swaps were unsuccessful and owner is becoming 'intolerant'.So if I understand that right, AML now sell an aftermarket kit of hoses and whatnot to dry out the front headlights. Is this a proper AML part number kit? If so, do you know roughly what the kit costs and how many hours labour are needed to fit it?
On my way home tonight I really noticed the front lights were very poor at illuminating the road ahead. I was pretty sure they needed some serious adjustment. Until I got home and saw at least 50% of both front units were misted up.
I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
andy_mc said:
On my way home tonight I really noticed the front lights were very poor at illuminating the road ahead. I was pretty sure they needed some serious adjustment. Until I got home and saw at least 50% of both front units were misted up.
I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
yup, despite not looking the best when parking up, beam impairment was main reason situation became a must fix for Zag.I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
BamfordMike said:
JohnG1 said:
Hi Mike,
So if I understand that right, AML now sell an aftermarket kit of hoses and whatnot to dry out the front headlights. Is this a proper AML part number kit? If so, do you know roughly what the kit costs and how many hours labour are needed to fit it?
I'm ready to be corrected here, I dont think the kit which comes direct from mothership (well, it did for Zag, dealer fitted under instruction from factory) can be bought, it is offered as a measure when all else fails and misting is annoying to point of owner not being able to live with it (they might all do it, but that doesn't mean an owner has to accept it, especially when under 3 year maker warranty) and reaches point of stalemate when a number of prior lamp swaps were unsuccessful and owner is becoming 'intolerant'.So if I understand that right, AML now sell an aftermarket kit of hoses and whatnot to dry out the front headlights. Is this a proper AML part number kit? If so, do you know roughly what the kit costs and how many hours labour are needed to fit it?
andy_mc said:
On my way home tonight I really noticed the front lights were very poor at illuminating the road ahead. I was pretty sure they needed some serious adjustment. Until I got home and saw at least 50% of both front units were misted up.
I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
That is why I changed mine. I thought i was driving on side lights!!I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
V8V Pete said:
So Mike, are you considering offering this "performance upgrade" at Bamford Rose? I imagine it would be quite popular and presumably not too challenging to do. Strange that AML did it with Vanquish 1 but then didn't on the Gaydon cars. In Vanquish does it run off the aircon or just ambient air?
yeah, strange how classic Vanquish system was dropped, misting lamps on Vanquish isn't an issue. The Vanquish system does plumb into HVAC / cabin, but I'm not sure if its just 'a' flow of air that is helping because its difficult to understand how much 'dry air' makes up total airflow.only place I'm aware to get kit fitted is dealer.
andy_mc said:
On my way home tonight I really noticed the front lights were very poor at illuminating the road ahead. I was pretty sure they needed some serious adjustment. Until I got home and saw at least 50% of both front units were misted up.
I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
Car is booked in with the dealer to look at this. They immediately said they'd put in Gel packs. It will be interesting to see what difference this might make. Am thinking they'll need a lot of Gel to absorb what I am seeing.I don't know enough about this lights to tell if the brightness of the bulbs will burn through the condensation without any issues - and its bad alignment - or I am severely impacted by this moisture.
Any thoughts ?
northernmedia said:
Mine are looking particularly bad following a short drive this afternoon. It's not been used for about a week, unsure if that makes any difference?
Going in for it's 2nd service on Monday, should I get the dealer to replace for new ones as a matter of course?
(Still under warranty)
Well if you see Flugplatz lights its not worth it. His are brand new!Going in for it's 2nd service on Monday, should I get the dealer to replace for new ones as a matter of course?
(Still under warranty)
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