V12 Vantage vs R8 V10 - My REVIEW

[Nijius Maximus]

Octavarium said:

Nice write-up Nijius. I enjoyed that

You never mentioned you were getting a V12V. When did that happen ?

hashluck said:

I think it came as a surprise to us all.

Mako V12V said:

HAHAHA....lmao.....got to be THE best one-liner on here this year

You cheeky bunch of...
And here I had plans to put up another ten threads talking about my V12V...

[xnetco]

Is it bad that I recognise the lay-by?

[Nijius Maximus]

xnetco said:

Is it bad that I recognise the lay-by?

Somewhere between Welwyn and Cambridge....?

[Nijius Maximus]

Somewhere between Welwyn and Cambridge....?

That was a great first day of driving, I tell you, great bunch of roads interspersed with small villages for the exhaust note to bounce off.

[jarodw]

I went for a test drive last week, and needles to say, I'm in love with the V12Vs.
I am still a bit concerned about the all weather drive-ability, though during the test drive I had no issues with the PZero Corsa tires. But leaving in Switzerland I still would need winter tires for the snowy days.

Following AM I would need a second set of wheels with winter tires, as the tires will not fit the original V12Vs wheels. Is this really the case, or is this just marketing blah...

Also I still have a perfect set of winter tires for my R8 in the dimensions 235/35 ZR19 front and 295/30 ZR19 back.
Considering the AM V12Vs sommer tires in the dimensions 255/35 ZR19 front and 29530 ZR19 back, would the winter tires fit? The back tires are the same dimension, though there should be no issues there, but what about the front tires 235 vs 255? any help appreciated.

Regards, J

[J12KJR]

Easy to understand the love for the V12 Vantage in any form.

Various tyre manufacturers suggest max and min sizes of tyre for a given wheel width and a quick check suggests that 235 is the minimum recommended for the 9J wheel with 255 & 265 being the optimum.

In reality you would be reducing the by around 7mm although this could be increased a bit as the tyre will presumably be stretched a bit on the wheel.

You will have the age old argument that the tyres you are using aren't Aston Martin approved which could be a problem with an AM approved used car on the warranty side of things. But in reality how can a different tyre have an effect on the warranty on any component not directly affected by it which would really only be the wheel.

Hope those ramblings help a little bit and good luck with your search.

[EvoOlli]

Bigger problem could be the difference in tyre circumference of about 13%, this would normally throw out TC and ABS.

[jarodw]

Ok, so keeping the R8 winter tires is not an option than. What about the statement from AM saying new wheels are required for winter tires? Does anyone use the V12Vs standard wheels with winter tires (tire swap)?

[Zod]

I have the special wheels. The alternative is to look for winter tyres in the standard summer size.

[jarodw]

martindesu said:

Is this from a daily driver point of view, or just a weekend in winter point of view?

It's more of a weekend in winter point of view, though I might occasionally use it to get to the ski resort (my wive does not ski and prefers to drive the Range Rover, therefore I would need to use the AM)

[Zod]

jarodw said:

martindesu said:

Is this from a daily driver point of view, or just a weekend in winter point of view?

It's more of a weekend in winter point of view, though I might occasionally use it to get to the ski resort (my wive does not ski and prefers to drive the Range Rover, therefore I would need to use the AM)

If fresh snow is falling and lying on the road, you'll need chains too, as with any rwd car. For normal conditions, the winter tyres will get you there.

[jarodw]

I follow in the footsteps of Nijius Maximus and interchange my Audi R8 V10 spyder with a AM V12Vs. I pulled the trigger yesterday, and should receive delivery of the V12Vs in 2 weeks time.

Saying goodbye to the R8:


Welcoming the V12Vs:

[Nijius Maximus]

jarodw said:

I follow in the footsteps of Nijius Maximus and interchange my Audi R8 V10 spyder with a AM V12Vs. I pulled the trigger yesterday, and should receive delivery of the V12Vs in 2 weeks time.

Saying goodbye to the R8:


Welcoming the V12Vs:

jarodw, CONGRATULATIONS! Great photos as well, of both cars, can't wait to see more when you've taken delivery.

I assume you found similar differences to myself over the two cars with the V12VS being more involving and fun to drive in the end?

Are you gonna miss the convertible though with the summer around the corner...?

Those two weeks are gonna be a long one...

Edited by Nijius Maximus on Thursday 17th March 15:13

[Zod]

Meteorite or Quantum? Wheels look good. Mine currently has its anthracite winter wheels on. I like the contrast betwen its winter and summer looks.

[cayman-black]

jarodw welcome to the V12V club. That does look good, enjoy.

[hornbaek]

Zod said:

f fresh snow is falling and lying on the road, you'll need chains too, as with any rwd car. For normal conditions, the winter tyres will get you there.

It is as AML is saying. You need new wheels for the winter tyres but I used my winter tyres for 4 years and they are brilliant. I lived in Switzerland last year and i would not recommend using the P Corsas during the winter months. Its not only the snow,its basically the temperature. You will not get any heat into the tyres and a cyclist on a Stromer will be quicker off the lights than you in the V12V with summer tyres. Congrats.

[Zod]

martindesu said:

Zod said:

Meteorite or Quantum? Wheels look good. Mine currently has its anthracite winter wheels on. I like the contrast betwen its winter and summer looks.

Are these the ones from the AM site? Look lovely.

Daily driver?

Yes and yes.

[Zod]

hornbaek said:

Zod said:

f fresh snow is falling and lying on the road, you'll need chains too, as with any rwd car. For normal conditions, the winter tyres will get you there.

It is as AML is saying. You need new wheels for the winter tyres but I used my winter tyres for 4 years and they are brilliant. I lived in Switzerland last year and i would not recommend using the P Corsas during the winter months. Its not only the snow,its basically the temperature. You will not get any heat into the tyres and a cyclist on a Stromer will be quicker off the lights than you in the V12V with summer tyres. Congrats.

Mine are on their fifth winter right now. They certainly wear better than the Corsas!

[jarodw]

Zod said:

Meteorite or Quantum? Wheels look good. Mine currently has its anthracite winter wheels on. I like the contrast betwen its winter and summer looks.

Honestly, I don't know what color it is....
You winter wheels look awesome, what are the dimensions of the winter tires?

[Zod]

jarodw said:

Zod said:

Meteorite or Quantum? Wheels look good. Mine currently has its anthracite winter wheels on. I like the contrast betwen its winter and summer looks.

Honestly, I don't know what color it is....
You winter wheels look awesome, what are the dimensions of the winter tires?

They're Pirelli Sottozero 2s in the standard AM winter sizes:

Front: 235 40 R19
Rear: 275 35 R19