The GT8! Carbon fibre bodied £200K 440BHP 7 Speed V8.

The GT8! Carbon fibre bodied £200K 440BHP 7 Speed V8.

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rkwm1

1,476 posts

103 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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RobDown said:
You're probably right. I'm mor used to looking at David Brown badgessmile

still I didn't like the carbonfibre wing badges, they just looked cheap, albeit I'm told they look nicer once they have weathered a bit
I wasn't too keen on the CF badges from pictures i had seen, but seeing them on the car changed my mind. Expensive but i think depending on the colour they should definitely be considered.

Jon39

12,854 posts

144 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Just wondered if any of you lucky buyers, have chosen the centre lock wheels?

Pricey, but they are a true mark of todays racing cars, and as an additional portion of the total cost, quite a modest percentage.



SFO

5,169 posts

184 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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AM really are taking the monkey with the pricing of the GT8 and its options

Flugplatz

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1,952 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Jon39 said:


Just wondered if any of you lucky buyers, have chosen the centre lock wheels?

Pricey, but they are a true mark of todays racing cars, and as an additional portion of the total cost, quite a modest percentage.


I think most cars will will have the £3500 5 stud option wheel.
8k extra for centre locks on the same weight wheel or 15K extra for magnesium makes it a hard box to tick.

Inspirine

18 posts

97 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Flugplatz said:
I think most cars will will have the £3500 5 stud option wheel.
8k extra for centre locks on the same weight wheel or 15K extra for magnesium makes it a hard box to tick.
That center lock looks good but is very expensive. By the way how practical it is? You need to buy a very special tool to unlock it and I doubt those are cheap.
It's the same nightmare on the recent GT3/GT3 RS. You hardly can't change your set of wheels yourself anymore.
By the way if you have to carry the expensive/heavy tool tell me about weight savings!



FFM

392 posts

102 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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My biggest concern would be the potential damages arising from kerbing etc.. scary thing!

J12KJR

2,860 posts

244 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Inspirine said:
That center lock looks good but is very expensive. By the way how practical it is? You need to buy a very special tool to unlock it and I doubt those are cheap.
It's the same nightmare on the recent GT3/GT3 RS. You hardly can't change your set of wheels yourself anymore.
By the way if you have to carry the expensive/heavy tool tell me about weight savings!
More importantly on the basis of your post where are you going to store your spare wheel?

When was the last time anyone changed a wheel except at home (my garage won't notice the weight of a new wheel removal tool, that is if I had centre locks anyway) or at a dealer/ tyre service?

Most people with a £200K car would get their butler or mechanic to do the work anyway wink.

Inspirine

18 posts

97 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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J12KJR said:
More importantly on the basis of your post where are you going to store your spare wheel?

When was the last time anyone changed a wheel except at home (my garage won't notice the weight of a new wheel removal tool, that is if I had centre locks anyway) or at a dealer/ tyre service?

Most people with a £200K car would get their butler or mechanic to do the work anyway wink.
I had 2 sets of wheels with my 996 GT3 RS. Good time is gone.
One for track/abuse and one to look good and keep in original conditions...
I think this is a better investment to buy 2 sets of wheels than center lock IMO.

Edited by Inspirine on Thursday 21st April 15:48

FFM

392 posts

102 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Eventually, do you think Centre-lock can be retrofitted without investing considerably more than the cost of the original option?


DocW

315 posts

143 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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FFM said:
My biggest concern would be the potential damages arising from kerbing etc.. scary thing!
I was chatting to a Porsche carrera gt owner at Gleneagles recently and he had parked his magnesium wheels about a millimetre from the kerb. He said the fear of damaging them was a worry ever time he went out, it just nagged away although he had never damaged one. I don't think the cost of repair was an issue but I know how I feel after I've learned one of my cheap wheels ( relatively speaking ).

FFM

392 posts

102 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Indeed!

I just discovered about 3,156 OTR charges on top of the £165k... what that effectively means?!?

AdamV12V

5,049 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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FFM said:
Indeed!

I just discovered about 3,156 OTR charges on top of the £165k... what that effectively means?!?
Well in fairness the original brief was £165-170k so I guess it's still within that. read

Jon39

12,854 posts

144 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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FFM said:
Indeed!

I just discovered about 3,156 OTR charges on top of the £165k... what that effectively means?!?

Years ago I remember OTR comprised, Delivery, Road Tax and Number Plates.
Your car will probably be delivered to your dealer individually in a covered lorry.
The initial Road Tax is probably four figures, but of course the Treasury will also be looking forward to their £30,000 VAT.

How we just love our cars.


I am sure you will really enjoy your GT8.






Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 21st April 21:07

J12KJR

2,860 posts

244 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Inspirine said:
J12KJR said:
More importantly on the basis of your post where are you going to store your spare wheel?

When was the last time anyone changed a wheel except at home (my garage won't notice the weight of a new wheel removal tool, that is if I had centre locks anyway) or at a dealer/ tyre service?

Most people with a £200K car would get their butler or mechanic to do the work anyway wink.
I had 2 sets of wheels with my 996 GT3 RS. Good time is gone.
One for track/abuse and one to look good and keep in original conditions...
I think this is a better investment to buy 2 sets of wheels than center lock IMO.

Edited by Inspirine on Thursday 21st April 15:48
Would agree about having two sets of wheelsbut I would wager that you didn't carry around the tools and a spare wheel all the time so your comment about the special tool negating the weight saving is totally moot.

FFM

392 posts

102 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Jon39 said:

Years ago I remember OTR comprised, Delivery, Road Tax and Number Plates.
Your car will probably be delivered to your dealer individually in a covered lorry.
The initial Road Tax is probably four figures, but of course the Treasury will also be looking forward to their £30,000 VAT.

How we just love our cars.


I am sure you will really enjoy your GT8.

Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 21st April 21:07
Thank you, so it is likely the OTR will include the Road tax of £1100ish
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/first-y...

Inspirine

18 posts

97 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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J12KJR said:
Would agree about having two sets of wheelsbut I would wager that you didn't carry around the tools and a spare wheel all the time so your comment about the special tool negating the weight saving is totally moot.
Except that I drive to track by road. Do you expect local mechanic to have the right tool in case of puncture?
I tried ones this foam thing and failed.
So yes I would take the tool with me and carry some extra weight.
Thats is what I will do with my 991 GT3 RS. I was happy that my GT4 did not get the central lock.

And if ever I take this GT8 despite outreagous prices for a N430 with make-up, I will take it without center lock.
Aero at 10k is outreagous, should be standard.
By the way the official basic price in France, over 221 k Euro including 20% VAT, is far above UK price (not too mention extra 11 k of road taxes on top)

J12KJR

2,860 posts

244 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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Inspirine said:
J12KJR said:
Would agree about having two sets of wheelsbut I would wager that you didn't carry around the tools and a spare wheel all the time so your comment about the special tool negating the weight saving is totally moot.
Except that I drive to track by road. Do you expect local mechanic to have the right tool in case of puncture?
I tried ones this foam thing and failed.
So yes I would take the tool with me and carry some extra weight.
Thats is what I will do with my 991 GT3 RS. I was happy that my GT4 did not get the central lock.

And if ever I take this GT8 despite outreagous prices for a N430 with make-up, I will take it without center lock.
Aero at 10k is outreagous, should be standard.
By the way the official basic price in France, over 221 k Euro including 20% VAT, is far above UK price (not too mention extra 11 k of road taxes on top)
And how do you get your wheels to the track so that you can change them over? Strapped to the roof.

I have used the foam once and it was successful on a nail in a tyre but a catastrophic failure requires a low loader ride home anyway as you don't have a spare in the car so having the tool would be a pointless exercise.

Inspirine

18 posts

97 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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J12KJR said:
And how do you get your wheels to the track so that you can change them over? Strapped to the roof.

I have used the foam once and it was successful on a nail in a tyre but a catastrophic failure requires a low loader ride home anyway as you don't have a spare in the car so having the tool would be a pointless exercise.
2 different exercices:

1) on the GT3 RS I was changing the wheels at home before either going to track or beauty contest kind of event.
Kinky painful but doable at home with time and no specific tool and no risk to damage center locks.

2) When I got the puncture story, (with a standard car and no center lock), and that the foam thing failed, mechanic came, took the car on a truck to his premises, and there repared my wheel. I was glad to not have center lock as I managed to go ahead in my trip even if I lost couple of hours in the process. Better than losting the whole week-end waiting for some mechanic with tool to take out the wheel.


I am not going to convince you and you know what I don't care. Tick costly center lock.
Hope you will not remember my post and hope all is fine for you with your wheels, no damage to center lock and no puncture ever.


J12KJR

2,860 posts

244 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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Inspirine said:
J12KJR said:
And how do you get your wheels to the track so that you can change them over? Strapped to the roof.

I have used the foam once and it was successful on a nail in a tyre but a catastrophic failure requires a low loader ride home anyway as you don't have a spare in the car so having the tool would be a pointless exercise.
2 different exercices:

1) on the GT3 RS I was changing the wheels at home before either going to track or beauty contest kind of event.
Kinky painful but doable at home with time and no specific tool and no risk to damage center locks.

2) When I got the puncture story, (with a standard car and no center lock), and that the foam thing failed, mechanic came, took the car on a truck to his premises, and there repared my wheel. I was glad to not have center lock as I managed to go ahead in my trip even if I lost couple of hours in the process. Better than losting the whole week-end waiting for some mechanic with tool to take out the wheel.


I am not going to convince you and you know what I don't care. Tick costly center lock.
Hope you will not remember my post and hope all is fine for you with your wheels, no damage to center lock and no puncture ever.
It has nothing to do with convincing me, in scenario 1 above you would have the tool at home to do the work so you are not worrying about using it away from home.

Scenario 2 would I grant you be a pain in the a**e but in 34 years driving averaging around 30,000 miles a year I have had 5 or 6 punctures in total so that wouldn't really come into the equation for me.

I hope you enjoy your GT3RS, GT4 etc with whatever wheels you choose to have and as for the GT8 with whichever wheels, well well well outside my budget so I will never have the problem.

1st world problems are so annoying though smile

spice

632 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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FFM said:
Indeed!

I just discovered about 3,156 OTR charges on top of the £165k... what that effectively means?!?

Wait till next year