The GT8! Carbon fibre bodied £200K 440BHP 7 Speed V8.

[FFM]

I was at my dealer this week and they had couple of vantages with both Graphite and Black-finished rims. It was good to compare some body colours, the CF, brake calipers. I must say the graphite finish is really good looking and fit well with CF too. I am still not sure 100%, I'll go for the 7-spoke black wheels.

[Mrs K]

Some interesting information here. Regarding the specification, how heavy are people going with options? I have found that the £165k base price quickly moves north of £200k when specified with intent! As an example, by my calculations the car on display was just shy of £230k OTR!

Can anyone offer any insight on the below? I'd be very grateful:

- Has there been any mention of the weight difference between the electric and manual lightweight seats? Assume its negligible?
- Does the Aero Pack give anything other than the rear wing and corner extensions to the front splitter?
- Does the Halo Pack give you the CF front grille and rear tailgate? Assume not?
- If you don't specify the £500 'alcantara lightweight seat inner' option, will the inner parts of the seats be leather instead of alcantara?
- Which of the 3 fascia trims is the one to have? Standard twill, Cuprum, or Herringbone?

Whilst obviously biased, I'm thrilled to have one of these coming and really do see them going down as one of the greats. I do wish they'd just got a touch more out of the block to get it over 300hp/tonne, but its still going to be the fastest V8V made and the manual transmission gives it a totally unique appeal for me (in comparison to the GT12).

[RobDown]

Mrs K said:

Some interesting information here. Regarding the specification, how heavy are people going with options? I have found that the £165k base price quickly moves north of £200k when specified with intent! As an example, by my calculations the car on display was just shy of £230k OTR!

Can anyone offer any insight on the below? I'd be very grateful:

- Has there been any mention of the weight difference between the electric and manual lightweight seats? Assume its negligible? From reading elsewhere you typically save 6-7lbs per seat
- Does the Aero Pack give anything other than the rear wing and corner extensions to the front splitter? I don't think so
- Does the Halo Pack give you the CF front grille and rear tailgate? Assume not? Don't know sorry
- If you don't specify the £500 'alcantara lightweight seat inner' option, will the inner parts of the seats be leather instead - yes you get a leather inner that matches the leather on the door insert.
- Which of the 3 fascia trims is the one to have? Standard twill, Cuprum, or Herringbone? I think it's personal choice. One thing my dealer was highlighting is that the gloss cf finish is going to give you a lot of reflection on the windscreen - so might want to take that into account

Whilst obviously biased, I'm thrilled to have one of these coming and really do see them going down as one of the greats. I do wish they'd just got a touch more out of the block to get it over 300hp/tonne, but its still going to be the fastest V8V made and the manual transmission gives it a totally unique appeal for me (in comparison to the GT12).

[Jon39]

rkwm1 said:

Also saw a well known car owner there spec their car.

Oh you are such a tease.

I wonder just how 'well known', and whether they might already own an Aston Martin.

One possibility. - Does the person like baking?
Another possibility. - Might the person have been waiting a very long time for a new job?

[Mr.Tremlini]

I have to say I find the carbon badges on the GT8 pretty cool.

[Mrs K]

RobDown said:

Mrs K said:

Some interesting information here. Regarding the specification, how heavy are people going with options? I have found that the £165k base price quickly moves north of £200k when specified with intent! As an example, by my calculations the car on display was just shy of £230k OTR!

Can anyone offer any insight on the below? I'd be very grateful:

- Has there been any mention of the weight difference between the electric and manual lightweight seats? Assume its negligible? From reading elsewhere you typically save 6-7lbs per seat
- Does the Aero Pack give anything other than the rear wing and corner extensions to the front splitter? I don't think so
- Does the Halo Pack give you the CF front grille and rear tailgate? Assume not? Don't know sorry
- If you don't specify the £500 'alcantara lightweight seat inner' option, will the inner parts of the seats be leather instead - yes you get a leather inner that matches the leather on the door insert.
- Which of the 3 fascia trims is the one to have? Standard twill, Cuprum, or Herringbone? I think it's personal choice. One thing my dealer was highlighting is that the gloss cf finish is going to give you a lot of reflection on the windscreen - so might want to take that into account

Whilst obviously biased, I'm thrilled to have one of these coming and really do see them going down as one of the greats. I do wish they'd just got a touch more out of the block to get it over 300hp/tonne, but its still going to be the fastest V8V made and the manual transmission gives it a totally unique appeal for me (in comparison to the GT12).

Many thanks, particularly for highlighting that particular fascias may reflect on the windscreen more than others - I hadn't considered that!

[Flugplatz]

Mrs K said:

Many thanks, particularly for highlighting that particular fascias may reflect on the windscreen more than others - I hadn't considered that!

And stitching!!

I would go black stitch under the windscreen.

[Flugplatz]

FFM said:

Not agree with the CF front grille! I love love love without, it is very-GTE and, also, differentiate the GT8 from the GT12!

[FFM]

Mrs K said:

RobDown said:

Mrs K said:

Some interesting information here. Regarding the specification, how heavy are people going with options? I have found that the £165k base price quickly moves north of £200k when specified with intent! As an example, by my calculations the car on display was just shy of £230k OTR!

Can anyone offer any insight on the below? I'd be very grateful:

- Has there been any mention of the weight difference between the electric and manual lightweight seats? Assume its negligible? From reading elsewhere you typically save 6-7lbs per seat
- Does the Aero Pack give anything other than the rear wing and corner extensions to the front splitter? I don't think so > Nope, both will come in exposed CF as standard
- Does the Halo Pack give you the CF front grille and rear tailgate? Assume not? Don't know sorry > both CF Front grille and Rear tailgate (and lamp infills) are £2k each options
- If you don't specify the £500 'alcantara lightweight seat inner' option, will the inner parts of the seats be leather instead - yes you get a leather inner that matches the leather on the door insert.
- Which of the 3 fascia trims is the one to have? Standard twill, Cuprum, or Herringbone? I think it's personal choice. One thing my dealer was highlighting is that the gloss cf finish is going to give you a lot of reflection on the windscreen - so might want to take that into account > Curpum and Herringbone will be a 1.5k and £2k option, respectively.

Whilst obviously biased, I'm thrilled to have one of these coming and really do see them going down as one of the greats. I do wish they'd just got a touch more out of the block to get it over 300hp/tonne, but its still going to be the fastest V8V made and the manual transmission gives it a totally unique appeal for me (in comparison to the GT12).

Many thanks, particularly for highlighting that particular fascias may reflect on the windscreen more than others - I hadn't considered that!

Added few comments above "> ......"

Re the carbon Fascia: I believe the standard trim is the same texture of door-panels' and on the gearshift surround's (if you opt for Manual). Having a mixed CF texture in the interior, should you go for Cuprum or Herringbone, may not be ideal. So consider also that.

[alscar]

Filippo , is that exactly the same mesh grill that the GT8 has as standard ?
Also has anyone actually seen the standard wheels yet or is " everyone " getting the black 7 spokes as a minimum ?

[FFM]

alscar said:

Filippo , is that exactly the same mesh grill that the GT8 has as standard ?
Also has anyone actually seen the standard wheels yet or is " everyone " getting the black 7 spokes as a minimum ?

Just saw your PM, if there is a picture attached I cannot see (will be able to see it this evening).

In short, imagine the GT8 without the optional V12S/GT12-looking CF front grille and here you have it, a naked mesh grille similar to the GTE (i.e. nothing to do with the normal grille of the DB9s/V8s etc). I now realised this may have caused confusion

[Mrs K]

alscar said:

has anyone actually seen the standard wheels yet or is " everyone " getting the black 7 spokes as a minimum ?

Having seen them in some of the renders in the portfolios, I found that the standard 5 spoke wheels just didn't fill the space well enough. Also, in absence of any traditional 'alloy' coloured options, I prefer black wheels to graphite ones. Spraying after delivery is not really an option, so the £3,500 7 spokers win!

If there were ceramic rotors to show off, then perhaps defaulting to the 5 spokers would have been more tempting

[Mrs K]

Flugplatz said:

And stitching!!

I would go black stitch under the windscreen.

A good consideration, thank you.

[Flugplatz]

I imagine that now we've seen a UK GT12 for sale at a main Aston martin dealer for a cool half a million more GT8 buyers will be comfortable going heavier on spec.

If a GT12 is genuinely 500k today then a GT8 is a minimum £350k on delivery making £18K for magnesium wheels and £7K for titanium exhausts and £10K on exterior carbon the right thing to do.

[jonby]

Flugplatz said:

I imagine that now we've seen a UK GT12 for sale at a main Aston martin dealer for a cool half a million more GT8 buyers will be comfortable going heavier on spec.

If a GT12 is genuinely 500k today then a GT8 is a minimum £350k on delivery making £18K for magnesium wheels and £7K for titanium exhausts and £10K on exterior carbon the right thing to do.

As you say, one question is how 'genuine' (i.e. realistic) the asking price is.

I would agree that fully optioning the GT8 with the 'important' options could have a bearing on future value way over and above the cost of those options, however expensive they look in isolation. Personally, I'd have thought the exhaust is a must have. Exterior carbon probably is too. I'd have thought wheels is a little more arguable

I wouldn't get too hung up on wheel colour though. Most people refurb the wheels at some stage and they can always be repainted, pre-future sale, back to the colour they were when purchased. Wheels can be painted very professionally, to factory standards, for less than £500 for the set and most good Aston dealers would be happy FOC (for a buyer of a new Aston) to take off the wheels, send them to a local painter, get them back and put them on the car. Or allow you to do same if they take them off. Paying £1k for the factory to have them painted is one thing but if I understand correctly that they are charging £3.5k for a wheel colour change, I'm struggling to understand why anyone would even contemplate not doing it themselves and saving the best part of £3k. Or have I misunderstood that figure ?

EDIT: I see the £3.5k is not just for the colour difference, but a slightly different wheel too. But some comments in this thread seem to focus on the colour change more than the design ?

Must be difficult because so many key options, including centrelock, are big money taking the total price to something very different to the base price. I don't envy those having to spec this car. Well I do, because it's a nice problem to have, but not an easy one to answer

Edited by jonby on Monday 25th April 16:04

Edited by jonby on Monday 25th April 16:04

[AdamV12V]

If it helps, Q quoted me £495 for repainting the V12VS wheels in a different colour, which seemed competitive with dealer / high street prices for such, so doubt colour is the issue here.

Agree with the comments about if £500k is realistic for the GT12, but only time well tell. The red one resold for a lot less than that, but equally was quite a bit above the cost price. Add in recent advertised prices on V12 Zagato's and GT8 buyers should still remain very confident that residuals will very likely be above RRP, but the level is unknown at this point. I assume most if not all will be buying as a keeper so speccing for what you personally want and see value in, rather than the best spec to flip the car will be the thing to do.

[FFM]

jonby said:

EDIT: I see the £3.5k is not just for the colour difference, but a slightly different wheel too. But some comments in this thread seem to focus on the colour change more than the design ?

Must be difficult because so many key options, including centrelock, are big money taking the total price to something very different to the base price. I don't envy those having to spec this car. Well I do, because it's a nice problem to have, but not an easy one to answer

Edited by jonby on Monday 25th April 16:04

Edited by jonby on Monday 25th April 16:04

Excellent point, the focus moved to colour rather than design (main body colour being obviously very important with wheel colour being, simply, a derivative). This also led me to consider the 7-spoke wheel option is not a must-have (5-spoke wheels are also bespoke for the GT8).
Re centre-lock, I think the majority of us is on the same line..this option is simply far to expensive to be ticked

[Mr.Tremlini]

Flugplatz said:

I imagine that now we've seen a UK GT12 for sale at a main Aston martin dealer for a cool half a million more GT8 buyers will be comfortable going heavier on spec.

If a GT12 is genuinely 500k today then a GT8 is a minimum £350k on delivery making £18K for magnesium wheels and £7K for titanium exhausts and £10K on exterior carbon the right thing to do.

Also in Switzerland a GT12 is looking for a market at 795,000chf, £515k in the Queen's currency.

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/aston-martin-v12-va...

[jonby]

AdamV12V said:

If it helps, Q quoted me £495 for repainting the V12VS wheels in a different colour, which seemed competitive with dealer / high street prices for such, so doubt colour is the issue here.

Agree with the comments about if £500k is realistic for the GT12, but only time well tell. The red one resold for a lot less than that, but equally was quite a bit above the cost price. Add in recent advertised prices on V12 Zagato's and GT8 buyers should still remain very confident that residuals will very likely be above RRP, but the level is unknown at this point. I assume most if not all will be buying as a keeper so speccing for what you personally want and see value in, rather than the best spec to flip the car will be the thing to do.

I don't dispute your quote with what I'm about to say, in fact quite the opposite - I think it highlights the lack of consistency with Q pricing

When I bought my V12VR, they charged me £995 to have the wheels supplied in the format they were standard on V12V coupe (all silver) instead of the two tone black/silver that was standard on V12VR. To be clear, they are the identical wheel on roadster and coupe so it didn't need a special order for me......

I think some people were suggesting the option wheel on GT8 because of the colour, rather than the design change, which led to the confusion, perhaps not considering the fact you an just repaint and potentially, repaint back upon resale

As for the other point and the examples you give, Zagato does seem to carry a special cache when it comes to pricing, both new and in the after market. GT12 was very well received by the journos. I'm sure that one factor in GT8 values going forward will be journo opinion, much as I accept that's not the only factor

[cayman-black]

Flugplatz said:

I imagine that now we've seen a UK GT12 for sale at a main Aston martin dealer for a cool half a million more GT8 buyers will be comfortable going heavier on spec.

If a GT12 is genuinely 500k today then a GT8 is a minimum £350k on delivery making £18K for magnesium wheels and £7K for titanium exhausts and £10K on exterior carbon the right thing to do.

Agree no worries with spec get what the car needs.