New V12VS (manual) - Colour/Spec decisions

[J12KJR]

AdamV12V said:

LOL - I think I've been almost as indecisive as your friend with the GT8 order!

In fairness they are still open and already exchanged a few emails this morning - the Kermit pics have most definitely met with the approval at that end too! Feeling very happy with it now, probably the most happy with a single choice so far. I still have a few Q questions to answer mostly on interior trimming before anything is locked down totally, but I finally think I must just be getting close!

Probable configurator interior to go with Kermit paint:

That will go well with the Kermit green but personally I would prefer the steering wheel to be on the right side

[cayman-black]

That inside is superb as well Adam it will be a stunning car i.m nearly as excited as you, cant wait to see it!

Edited by cayman-black on Sunday 17th April 19:07

[Big Ry]

That looks lovely......

Quick one, can anybody describe to me the difference between Cinnabar and Madagascar orange ? Am I right in thinking perhaps Cinnabar is a touch darker ?

[cayman-black]

I think you are spot on Big Ry it has a darker brown fleck in it.

[AdamV12V]

Big Ry said:

That looks lovely......

Quick one, can anybody describe to me the difference between Cinnabar and Madagascar orange ? Am I right in thinking perhaps Cinnabar is a touch darker ?

Yes I can, I looked into both of these colours quite a lot before deciding on Cinnabar. If you have been watching Shmee's 007 Scottish Tour video and heard him say the car is Madagascar Orange, then ignore it - that car is Cinnabar, I had JCT check the reg with AM to confirm his commentary was in fact incorrect.

Madagascar is a much paler and more orangey version of Cinnabar and it was the launch colour of the Virage. Whilst similar in some ways it is quite different.

I have seen it in the flesh and the first pic is what Madagascar looks like the most to me, but again it varies somewhat depending upon the light and can look like the second pic too, hence why it can be similar to Cinnabar:





Id say Cinnabar at its very lightest is close to Madgascar at its very darkest.

Edited by AdamV12V on Sunday 17th April 19:29

[RobDown]

AdamV12V said:

cayman-black said:

matching calipers !

Well aside from the fact now I think they are probably OTT, Q have quoted me on Orange calipers last week...

Are you ready.....
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£5495....
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PLUS VAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Orange calipers are a £1000 option on the gt8. So that q quote is weird. If it helps my dealer said he had a customer wh wanted Orange calipers, they got a local bodyshop to do them for him after-market at a reasonable cost

[AdamV12V]

RobDown said:

Orange calipers are a £1000 option on the gt8. So that q quote is weird. If it helps my dealer said he had a customer wh wanted Orange calipers, they got a local bodyshop to do them for him after-market at a reasonable cost

Yeah I was aware they are a lot cheaper on GT12/8 - odd that, but I guess its down to what is classed as std or non std, rather than actually representative of the real cost. Ive decided the std annodised black/grey suits my colour combos anyway, so they are free so ideal choice.

Stll thinking Kermit Paint is the favourite now, but as a further example of the above, I found out today that Lime Green contrast stitching is a non standard colour, unlike the California Poppy stitching which I would have used for the other two exterior orange paint colours. The cost for a non std colour stitch is £995!

The gear surround on the manual is the old V12V chrome, which would look silly if you ask me with the lowline console and std gearknob, however as I am going with the highline console which has the chrome leading edge, and the old metal gear know this will probably work OK. Still think its odd and don't see why they didn't choose to make it piano black to match everything else.

Been told that obsidian black alcantara door / seat stripes are not available and Q need to price those! This one has the potential to get me miffed it they charge for it, as its the most lowly of requests if you ask me - plus Im only asking because they only produce the steering wheel in obsidian alcantara and I don't want it to mismatch everything else given Im going with Pure Black Alcantara for the seat inners and door cards.

Also awaiting further responses from Q on Alcantara dash (identical what to Sport-Plus Pack has), the now discontinued roof and tailgate decals and a price for the gloss black zagato wheels. I have low expectations that any of these will meet with my pricing approval based on the majority of Q pricing so far.

[Big Ry]

AdamV12V said:

plus Im only asking because they only produce the steering wheel in obsidian alcantara and I don't want it to mismatch everything else given Im going with Pure Black Alcantara for the seat inners and door cards.

How about getting a specialist to re-trim the steering wheel in Pure Black, it might be a cheaper option than getting the "pick a number, any number" crowd at Q.

Edited by Big Ry on Monday 18th April 21:33

[Simon Lane]

Take a look at this video https://goo.gl/CHknuq a follow up is in the pipeline based on the V12S. 8 cars being built to celebrate 80 years of the Supermarine Spitfire and handed over in similar fashion this October at Duxford. They will sell very quickly call AM Cambridge for further info.

[AdamV12V]

Simon Lane said:

Take a look at this video https://goo.gl/CHknuq a follow up is in the pipeline based on the V12S. 8 cars being built to celebrate 80 years of the Supermarine Spitfire and handed over in similar fashion this October at Duxford. They will sell very quickly call AM Cambridge for further info.

That is very nice indeed - I saw your posting in the V8V Blades thread, but the colour combo is not for me, see page 1

[AdamV12V]

Big Ry said:

AdamV12V said:

plus Im only asking because they only produce the steering wheel in obsidian alcantara and I don't want it to mismatch everything else given Im going with Pure Black Alcantara for the seat inners and door cards.

How about getting a specialist to re-trim the steering wheel in Pure Black, it might be a cheaper option than getting the "pick a number, any number" crowd at Q.

Edited by Big Ry on Monday 18th April 21:33

Yeah, or just dipping the thing in a bucket of black Dylon has even crossed my mind! Thing is I quite like the idea of Pure black seats, dash and door cards with obsidian steering wheel, gear gaiter, seat/door stripes and headliner inner and assumed all that would be zero cost. No confirmation on cost as yet but Im still hopeful they wont charge for it.

[Simon Lane]

Spitfire 80 will be a very different colour combination and pay homage to the aircraft in exquisite detail. We are even going to use some Spitfire parts to make some of the trim. They will all be handed over on same day at Duxford and a flight in a Spitfire will be part of the experience.

[Chamboy]

AdamV12V said:

Also awaiting further responses from Q on Alcantara dash (identical what to Sport-Plus Pack has), the now discontinued roof and tailgate decals and a price for the gloss black zagato wheels. I have low expectations that any of these will meet with my pricing approval based on the majority of Q pricing so far.

Adam,

You are performing a valuable public service for us other potential V12SM customers! Bravo and plse keep posting what you find out - quicker than incessant calls and visits to the dealer for sure! Am following a pretty similar thinking process on specs, colours and particularly if/how to get what parts of the Sport Pack + can be gotten ( am hot on the Alcantara dash too) but have now discarded all 5 colours so a 'bitza' approach is required - but not any any cost (I.e. Q cost!)

Andy

[Mako V12V]

Hi Adam, glad I'm not in your shoes, lol. Utter turmoil haha.
I'm very much in favour of the green (did you dismiss Ocellus teal)?
But

It's a pity the green is flat.. My brother had a Java green A3 Quattro new in 2000 which looked fab. And now bmw are doing similar....have you asked AM about a kermit metallic???!!!!

[AdamV12V]

Mako V12V said:

Hi Adam, glad I'm not in your shoes, lol. Utter turmoil haha.
I'm very much in favour of the green (did you dismiss Ocellus teal)?
But

It's a pity the green is flat.. My brother had a Java green A3 Quattro new in 2000 which looked fab. And now bmw are doing similar....have you asked AM about a kermit metallic???!!!!

Hi Phil

Not a fan of Ocellus teal, and neither me or the mrs really fancied any blue - well except perhaps Flugplatz, but I wanted something even rarer. The Kermit mould is pretty epic in the flesh - have you seen my photoshop pics that I posted a couple of pages back?

Funnily enough VAG Java Green was one of the colours I shortlisted before I found Kermit, but I suspect that and a metallic Kermit would be far too much. To be honest Im quite happy with it being flat, it just works in the same way Flugplatz works as a flat colour.

Paint prices for MY17 are as follows:

AML Primary - free
AML Contemporary - £1195 (Discounted if you take as part of the Contemporary Pack)
AML Special Colour - £3495
AML Previous - £3995
Q Special - £3995
Q Satin - £???? (not asked)
Other Manufacturer Colour - £3995
Match to Sample - £7995
Other manufacturer Special Colour - £11,995

I'd be pretty sure Java would fall into one of the last two categories! For once the Q pricing looks quite reasonable.

[Mako V12V]

Methinks it would just be a £3995 jobbie, other Manu. Btw when my mako beast was specced, it was a £4750 cost option so those prices appear cheap given the 6 year inflation/indexation.
I've always preferred a metallic over flat, don't know why, it's just nicer to look at. Storm black and ceramic grey are awesome metallics.
Will you be having green seat inserts with black stitching and green stitching on the black parts? Also, you'll need a green alcantara steering wheel.
And whilst you're at it, get Q to green stitch the AM logo into the headlining, haha.

[GPH]

Great choice of car Adam and an enviable decision to be making on what will be a great final blast for the N/A V12 and also current Vantage model. As a lover of bright colours - cobalt blue and Madagascar being two of my favourites - I would chose the cinnabar but if you are looking for something exclusive it might not be the colour to chose as someone at HWM recently told me that DB11 customers are being much more adventurous with colours and about 8 ordered so far - a significant proportion of total orders - are in Cinnabar.

[AdamV12V]

OK more price updates from Q today:

• Part Alcantara Dash (as per sport pack plus) in Pure Black Alcantara / Pure Black Leather - £695
• Headliner Inner in Obsidian Black Alcantara and Outer in Pure Black Alcantara - £695

The Alcantara dash seems very reasonable and providing Q confirm that it's covers just the bits I want (i.e. not the upper IP) and does include full contrast stitching then I will be going with this.

The two tone headliner however is a joke. This has been a standard offering on the configurator for as long as its been available, doesn't appear on the price lists as an option anywhere so I cant believe Q are treating this as a chargeable option!

Been promised almost all other outstanding answers by tomorrow.

Mixed news!

[Brakke]

Great job guys!

You guys are doing a brilliant job speccing my next car haha

[George29]

Kermit green looks a lot better than I expected in the photoshop, but I agree with the above point about something like Java Green, that would look great.