DB4 GT Continuation
Discussion
stevewak said:
First news here: https://k500.com/story-item/aston-martin-to-announ...
Got there in the end. 
ajr550 said:
Call me cynical but having just picked up the latest edition of Vantage,the "independent" AM magzine which is stuffed full of DB4GTs I am now convinced that the Continuation will happen.
Guess what ? Latest version of Vantage names DB4 GT greatest Aston Martin drivers car ever.What a coincidence !!ajr550 said:
Guess what ? Latest version of Vantage names DB4 GT greatest Aston Martin drivers car ever.What a coincidence !!
And it is and long may it continue. Building continuation models is a farce. Image you turn up at Goodwood Revival with your original GT and you have to drive against these continuation models. It clearly dilutes the experience and I hope Lord March is going to ban them from events such as the Revival. They do it because they can and because some people will pay money for that - you just wonder why ?
hornbaek said:
And it is and long may it continue. Building continuation models is a farce. Image you turn up at Goodwood Revival with your original GT and you have to drive against these continuation models. It clearly dilutes the experience and I hope Lord March is going to ban them from events such as the Revival.
He banned the recreation Jags so I would imagine he would have the same (and IMHO correct) view about these continuation models.Y100 said:
LordBretSinclair said:
He banned the recreation Jags so I would imagine he would have the same (and IMHO correct) view about these continuation models.
My own view is that going forward, perhaps there will be specific races for 'recreation' cars only. 
Edited by RichB on Saturday 10th December 12:23
I'm just a little bemused by the whole thing
These are not going to be cheap. AM Works charges GBP400-500k) to do a full restoration of a car (by which they mean they essentially throw everything away and pretty much build a new one). So I'm guessing you won't get change from a GBP1m in buying one of these (and might conceivably be a fair bit more)
So a million to buy a car with no history, no heritage and you can't use it on the road? I'm really genuinely struggling to see how much demand there will be; if you had the sort of money to be able to blow a GBP1m on a non-road legal DB4GT recreation, I'm guessing you can afford to buy the original.
And if you want a "fake" DB4GT, why not buy a DB4 and get a conversion? That would be cheaper, frankly more genuine than a modern recreation AND most importantly road-legal!
The only positive in all this I can see is that it helps pay to keep the old skills alive at Works (which is to be applauded)
These are not going to be cheap. AM Works charges GBP400-500k) to do a full restoration of a car (by which they mean they essentially throw everything away and pretty much build a new one). So I'm guessing you won't get change from a GBP1m in buying one of these (and might conceivably be a fair bit more)
So a million to buy a car with no history, no heritage and you can't use it on the road? I'm really genuinely struggling to see how much demand there will be; if you had the sort of money to be able to blow a GBP1m on a non-road legal DB4GT recreation, I'm guessing you can afford to buy the original.
And if you want a "fake" DB4GT, why not buy a DB4 and get a conversion? That would be cheaper, frankly more genuine than a modern recreation AND most importantly road-legal!
The only positive in all this I can see is that it helps pay to keep the old skills alive at Works (which is to be applauded)
RobDown said:
I'm just a little bemused by the whole thing
These are not going to be cheap. AM Works charges GBP400-500k) to do a full restoration of a car (by which they mean they essentially throw everything away and pretty much build a new one). So I'm guessing you won't get change from a GBP1m in buying one of these (and might conceivably be a fair bit more)
So a million to buy a car with no history, no heritage and you can't use it on the road? I'm really genuinely struggling to see how much demand there will be; if you had the sort of money to be able to blow a GBP1m on a non-road legal DB4GT recreation, I'm guessing you can afford to buy the original.
And if you want a "fake" DB4GT, why not buy a DB4 and get a conversion? That would be cheaper, frankly more genuine than a modern recreation AND most importantly road-legal!
The only positive in all this I can see is that it helps pay to keep the old skills alive at Works (which is to be applauded)
I think I read £1.5MThese are not going to be cheap. AM Works charges GBP400-500k) to do a full restoration of a car (by which they mean they essentially throw everything away and pretty much build a new one). So I'm guessing you won't get change from a GBP1m in buying one of these (and might conceivably be a fair bit more)
So a million to buy a car with no history, no heritage and you can't use it on the road? I'm really genuinely struggling to see how much demand there will be; if you had the sort of money to be able to blow a GBP1m on a non-road legal DB4GT recreation, I'm guessing you can afford to buy the original.
And if you want a "fake" DB4GT, why not buy a DB4 and get a conversion? That would be cheaper, frankly more genuine than a modern recreation AND most importantly road-legal!
The only positive in all this I can see is that it helps pay to keep the old skills alive at Works (which is to be applauded)
Suspect this is partly aimed at those who buy am RB001 for £2.5M, Vulcan for £1.8M, Vanquish Zag for £500k, a Taraf for similar money, etc - in that context, it's just another expensive toy as part of the collection. I heard a rumour that those ordering a Taraf (which surely hasn't sold many ?) would be 'looked on favourably' if wanting an RB001 - I wonder if that applies with this project too - buy a DB4GT if you want a track only RB001 ? (they are building 25 of each)
RobDown said:
These are not going to be cheap. AM Works charges GBP400-500k) to do a full restoration of a car (by which they mean they essentially throw everything away and pretty much build a new one). So I'm guessing you won't get change from a GBP1m in buying one of these (and might conceivably be a fair bit more)
In another article it quotes £1.5m - I'll see if I can find it and post a link.http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/aston-m...
Edited by RichB on Saturday 10th December 13:22
LordBretSinclair said:
He [Lord March] banned the recreation Jags so I would imagine he would have the same (and IMHO correct) view about these continuation models.
I understand that his philosophy for the Revival meeting, is only to allow cars that were actually built before 2 July 1966. That was the date the Goodwood circuit closed.
Whilst the meeting continues to be so oversubscribed, there seems no need to relax that rule.
Presumably AML have established the demand and perhaps already taken deposits, because it was some time ago that this proposal was first mentioned.
I believe this is pure genius. This is pocket change to the buyers of these cars which will no doubt only increase in value. A great way for Aston to make much needed cash not to mention publicity. Only down side is you can't legally drive on the road no doubt due to current safety regulations.
RichB said:
Y100 said:
LordBretSinclair said:
He banned the recreation Jags so I would imagine he would have the same (and IMHO correct) view about these continuation models.
My own view is that going forward, perhaps there will be specific races for 'recreation' cars only. Edited by RichB on Saturday 10th December 12:23
As our precious original Aston DBR1's (only 5 ever made) have aged, fewer are seen out on track competing, their values prohibitive, one by one they are going into private collections after which they are rarely seen. As you feel I do too, watching those and the other pre 66 marques out on the circuit is just heaven BUT, no matter how much we would love them to continue, they can't go on for ever,,,unlike you and I of course.
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