My first Mercedes - starting to feel the love!

My first Mercedes - starting to feel the love!

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greenarrow

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3,582 posts

117 months

Saturday 21st May 2016
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Here is an update on my CLK 430. My last posting was negative due to early niggles and doubts, but four weeks or so on, feeling the love. I have never owned a Merc before and I think they are one of those cars that doesn't perhaps impress on a test drive like a BMW but gets under your skin during the ownership experience. Thanks to the guy in my close who is the local Merc garage master mechanic, he removed my locking wheel nuts (for which I didn't have the key) and I now have four non lockable ones. He thought one of the engine mounts might be broken, or missing, but my garage are certain they aren't. However I had a bad scare last weekend when my garage, whilst inspecting the engine mounts found that the alternator pulley system was broken and about to "let go"...now fixed...total bill £102 including a new dipstick as the current one is busted. The traction control light hasn't come on again and I think the bulb warning light is probably just a glitch as all the lights seem to work.

But now to the drive. Was amazed on a run of 61 miles mixed driving the other weekend to record 27.7 MPG on the trip computer, whilst taking advantage of kickdown; my Impreza Turbo couldn't match that. In fact 25MPG is easily possible on any drive of 10 miles or more if you don't push it...I thought it would be a barge, but in fact on a decent A or even B road you can really lean on it in the bends, particularly those lovely faster S bends. It corners quite flatly and only in very slow corners do you have to make allowances for the big V8. I love the wafty feeling of the V8 and the effortless way it picks up speed and overtakes. Above all I love the fact that for less than two grand I put a V8 on my drive that cost £45K in 2000.....

Don't think this car will be a keeper, thanks to wife and daughter number 1 who are very anti, but I have loved the experience and definitely one of my favourite cars to date. For what I paid for it, I really cannot think of another car that would have provided more grunt and class.

Edited by greenarrow on Saturday 21st May 18:55

ClaphamGT3

11,292 posts

243 months

Saturday 21st May 2016
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Yup - once you've had a Mercedes, you'll never be truly happy without one

Top shedding by the way!

Mr M

1,272 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st May 2016
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Yes, Mercs do get under your skin :-). I have noticed that also. They are just lovely cars.

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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Hi Greenarrow I'm glad you're enjoying the car it's a shame you can't keep it, they do get under your skin I've found that they just make getting from A-B easy & then if you want to have some fun they're able to oblige.

greenarrow

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3,582 posts

117 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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I also now understand why generally these bigger engined older Mercs are not driven aggressively. Some cars seem to goad you on, BMWs being a prime example, but the Merc seems to put me into "chill out" mode. Today on a 40 mile A road trip I found myself leaving a larger gap than usual to the car in front and when we came to a set of traffic lights with a "merge in turn" two lanes into one layout, I just let the modern tin boxes get on with scrapping for pole position.....As a result despite using kickdown on a couple of occasions I set a new PB of 28.7 MPG on the trip computer.....

Ari

19,346 posts

215 months

Sunday 22nd May 2016
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greenarrow said:
Don't think this car will be a keeper, thanks to wife and daughter number 1 who are very anti,
What's their problem with it?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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greenarrow said:
I also now understand why generally these bigger engined older Mercs are not driven aggressively. Some cars seem to goad you on, BMWs being a prime example, but the Merc seems to put me into "chill out" mode. Today on a 40 mile A road trip I found myself leaving a larger gap than usual to the car in front and when we came to a set of traffic lights with a "merge in turn" two lanes into one layout, I just let the modern tin boxes get on with scrapping for pole position.....As a result despite using kickdown on a couple of occasions I set a new PB of 28.7 MPG on the trip computer.....
Couldn't agree more with all the above.

Ed Moses

604 posts

120 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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I have to agree with the comments. My Merc wafts nicely and I do not feel tired when I get out after being stuck in traffic. When I get some open road and want to play, well that is what the Sport button and bags of torque are for!

Ed

greenarrow

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3,582 posts

117 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Ari said:
greenarrow said:
Don't think this car will be a keeper, thanks to wife and daughter number 1 who are very anti,
What's their problem with it?
They don't like Mercs, they see it as "an old man car". I did point out that at 47, I actually aren't all that young anymore, so maybe an old mans car is not a bad thing! I also own two other cars so am getting pressure to sell one, the one they don't like. In truth it was an impulse purchase, I just fancied a V8, but didn't want to shell out loads of money on one, so this car ticked the boxes for me.

Mr M

1,272 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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> but the Merc seems to put me into "chill out" mode
Totally concur with that one as well :-). Best way to be, but big smiles when you fancy a short sprint and there's no other traffic about.

greenarrow

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3,582 posts

117 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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Mr M said:
> but the Merc seems to put me into "chill out" mode
Totally concur with that one as well :-). Best way to be, but big smiles when you fancy a short sprint and there's no other traffic about.
Absolutely and I wonder if the modern generation of Mercs is missing this "chill out factor". I see a lot of hard pedalled aggressive driven A and C Class Mercs these days and it never used to be the case, particularly with the bigger Benzes. It seems that in chasing BMW and Audi, Mercs have lost that a certain something.

irocfan

40,389 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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TBF I'm approaching Merc ownership from the diesel angle - but you are right they do get under your skin, really love it

SSL

98 posts

106 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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[quote=greenarrow]Here is an update on my CLK 430. My last posting was negative due to early niggles and doubts, but four weeks or so on, feeling the love. I have never owned a Merc before and I think they are one of those cars that doesn't perhaps impress on a test drive like a BMW but gets under your skin during the ownership experience.

greenarrow,

Exactly that. I converted from BMW twenty years ago. Beemers are great performance cars but outstanding Mercedes like the W123,201,124,140,107,129 have a depth of engineering and design integrity that keeps on giving and surprising, sometimes after years of ownership, that few other cars seem capable of delivering.

I cannot speak of modern day Mercs but the young-timer generation's suspension set-ups were a compromise of waftability and feel and a re-circulating ball rather than a rack and pinion system was never going to provide razor sharp response to steering input but would iron out the imperfections of a road service. Add this to in-line six and V8 engines so under-stressed as to be verging on the lazy and you have compromise which allows you to push on when required but encourages a laid-back and relaxed driving style.

As it happens my family were not exactly enthusiastic when I bought my first Merc in 1996 but thirteen Mercs later all are now converts.

Hope you enjoy whatever time you've got left with your 430. Could be the beginning of a long and happy relationship. C215 CL500 next?


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Edited by SSL on Tuesday 24th May 13:08

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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greenarrow said:
Ari said:
greenarrow said:
Don't think this car will be a keeper, thanks to wife and daughter number 1 who are very anti,
What's their problem with it?
They don't like Mercs, they see it as "an old man car". I did point out that at 47, I actually aren't all that young anymore, so maybe an old mans car is not a bad thing! I also own two other cars so am getting pressure to sell one, the one they don't like. In truth it was an impulse purchase, I just fancied a V8, but didn't want to shell out loads of money on one, so this car ticked the boxes for me.
My missus isnt keen, she calls my CLS and Old Mans car, I am 45 and find it a lovely (if pricey) way to get around, she has zero interest in it, she thinks the height of motoring nirvana is her Fiesta, to be honest I am happy with that as dont want her getting a taste for V8 style travel.

Life is too short to be told what to do, especially when staring down the barell of your fifties, they dont like it, well , they dont pay for it and can gladly take the bus or walk, when you hang up your keys, do you want to regret being told what to do by those who really dont get it,a m sure your wife and daughter have things they like, do you dictate ? my wife does "crafts", sewing, crotchet, printing and all that, I wouldnt say she cant do it because I dont like it, she wanted a Fiesta, she got a Fiesta, I try to be supportive and expect some consideration the other way to what I want withing the realsm of affordability.


Man up and keep your Merc, flog it if you dont want it, and enjoy that effortless and smooth lunge forwards, in fact flog it and get a CLS 55/63 and let me know what its like.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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I have never owned a Merc but have always admired them. The seem to have presence that most car manufacturers would love to emulate. The older models are just as desirable as the new ones, glad you're enjoying the experience OP. I think I think I will be joining you soon

greenarrow

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3,582 posts

117 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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J4CKO said:
greenarrow said:
Ari said:
greenarrow said:
Don't think this car will be a keeper, thanks to wife and daughter number 1 who are very anti,
What's their problem with it?
They don't like Mercs, they see it as "an old man car". I did point out that at 47, I actually aren't all that young anymore, so maybe an old mans car is not a bad thing! I also own two other cars so am getting pressure to sell one, the one they don't like. In truth it was an impulse purchase, I just fancied a V8, but didn't want to shell out loads of money on one, so this car ticked the boxes for me.
My missus isnt keen, she calls my CLS and Old Mans car, I am 45 and find it a lovely (if pricey) way to get around, she has zero interest in it, she thinks the height of motoring nirvana is her Fiesta, to be honest I am happy with that as dont want her getting a taste for V8 style travel.

Life is too short to be told what to do, especially when staring down the barell of your fifties, they dont like it, well , they dont pay for it and can gladly take the bus or walk, when you hang up your keys, do you want to regret being told what to do by those who really dont get it,a m sure your wife and daughter have things they like, do you dictate ? my wife does "crafts", sewing, crotchet, printing and all that, I wouldnt say she cant do it because I dont like it, she wanted a Fiesta, she got a Fiesta, I try to be supportive and expect some consideration the other way to what I want withing the realsm of affordability.


Man up and keep your Merc, flog it if you dont want it, and enjoy that effortless and smooth lunge forwards, in fact flog it and get a CLS 55/63 and let me know what its like.
I like your attitude, although I guess already having two cars to Mrs' one I am starting any argument about cars with one arm tied behind my back! If the CLK goes, then I will return to the Merc fold, perhaps with one as an only car. Quite fond of the 2005ish, C350.....that for me was one of the last of the "classic" looking Mercs before the more aggressive styling arrived with the 2007 on C Class (sorry I am hopeless at remembering all the C Class designations).

greenarrow

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Tuesday 24th May 2016
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DUMBO100 said:
I have never owned a Merc but have always admired them. The seem to have presence that most car manufacturers would love to emulate. The older models are just as desirable as the new ones, glad you're enjoying the experience OP. I think I think I will be joining you soon
Do it! The older models seem cheaper than the BMW equivalents, as I don't think they have the following. For example, for what I paid for my 430, I doubt you would find an E39 540i, which is probably the nearest BMW equivalent. An E55AMG is much cheaper than the equivalent age M5, but every bit as special. Also, my research indicates that BMWs suffer far more generic problems, such as Vanos issues, head gaskets blowing and so on, with their bigger engine cars. I couldn't really find any known major engine issues with any of th n/a V8 Mercs a view confirmed by my Mercedes Master technician neighbour who says these older V8s are fairly bombproof. The weak link I guess Is electrical stuff like sensors and traction control type stuff, which would be typical of any older car.

Edited by greenarrow on Tuesday 24th May 18:15

hilly10

7,097 posts

228 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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I just love to waft along in my E there is no better car for the money to munch motorway miles.