Why do electric cars have to LOOK like electric cars?

Why do electric cars have to LOOK like electric cars?

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samj2014

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554 posts

112 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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This is a bit of a rant really, and I probably know the answer already, but hey ho.

Anyway, I was browsing electric cars yesterday, because I'm hopefully going to be in a decent job soon and I like the idea of owning an electric car (as well as something fun), as I'll probably have a bit of a commute. So I'm wondering what choice there is in terms of reasonably sized electric cars, turns out you can have either a focus, a golf, or a leaf. Fair enough, the market isn't huge yet, I get that.

So anyway, I went on their respective 'car configurator' pages to see what the options are like. As a designer, I find this part quite frustrating - car marque websites are awful to navigate, but that's for another rant... So to find the leccy focus, you have to scroll past ALL of the others, and the little avatar sits right next to the Focus RS, but a grand more expensive... So straight away I'm thinking, you know what, fk it, I'd rather have an RS. I selected the leccy car anyway, and then came the frustrating bit.

I wonder what alloys I could have? (I'm looking at both the golf and the focus here) Oh, there's only the one, and they're the ugly-as-sin ones that absolutely scream "I drive something extremely mundane, but I want it to look flash". Great. How about colours? Maybe that'll redeem it somewhat? Ah yes, any colour so long as it's grey. And why must all electric cars have strips of blue LEDs on the front bumper? Why must the whole world know that the car is electric? Why must electric cars look either incredibly boring or ugly? Why can it not just look like a car? You know, like a normal car? I mean, there's nothing inherently 'diesel' looking about any diesel car, so why is electric different? I don't want to drive around in something that screams "look how mundane my car is, but i'm saving the planet because it's electric!".

Tesla seem to be the only people getting it right, in my opinion. It's just a lovely looking car.

Am I just a grumpy sod, or does anyone else agree with me?

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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The Renault Zoe looks okay and quite normal.

samj2014

Original Poster:

554 posts

112 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Yeah that actually jumped to mind as I was writing it, it's not an insane price either. Perhaps more manufacturers should take note!

The golf, focus and leaf (the only ones I'd be in any position to buy) look awful though.

HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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They look like that because they can. If ICEs didn't need so much cooling, they'd look more like electric cars. Aerodynamics is of major importance to all car manufacturers.

MitchT

15,867 posts

209 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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I've been asking this for a while. If you want to clean up car emissions then you have to get the people who are most likely to be driving dirty vehicles to buy clean ones. Sadly, affordably priced 'eco' cars all look like some toy that a young mumsy woman would give a small child to play with in the bath. Only the BMW i8 and Tesla Model S really look like credible substitutes for the kind of cars that really need to be replaced by cleaner machines, but they're unaffordable for most people. When affordable green cars look sporty, muscular and masculine then we'll start to make some progress. Until then they'll only be bought by people who have beards and wear their sister's jeans.

samj2014

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554 posts

112 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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MitchT said:
I've been asking this for a while. If you want to clean up car emissions then you have to get the people who are most likely to be driving dirty vehicles to buy clean ones. Sadly, affordably priced 'eco' cars all look like some toy that a young mumsy woman would give a small child to play with in the bath. Only the BMW i8 and Tesla Model S really look like credible substitutes for the kind of cars that really need to be replaced by cleaner machines, but they're unaffordable for most people. When affordable green cars look sporty, muscular and masculine then we'll start to make some progress. Until then they'll only be bought by people who have beards and wear their sister's jeans.
Glad to know I'm not alone. I'd consider a golf if it came with some decent alloys and colours other than grey... Oh and the stupid blue LEDs.

HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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I know it's a hybrid but I was with a Honda CR-X recently and I thought it looked great so maybe there is hope.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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The electric Passats and Golfs I saw in Amsterdam really didn't look massively different to the most Golfs and Passats you see every day.

And there were tons of them. Everywhere. And places to charge them.

And Outlander PHEVs

And Teslas. As Taxis!

Loads of them, in the city.

Oh and a Fisker Karma.

It's the attitude of the buyers over there which must be different to us over here - which I guess must also be in part due to some incentives or other being given to the buyers as to why they would want to choose them

ALTO77

311 posts

142 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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HustleRussell said:
I know it's a hybrid but I was with a Honda CR-X recently and I thought it looked great so maybe there is hope.
Not trying to be an arse, but is their a Honda crx hybrid? I absolutely loved the CRX when I was a young lad, definitely ahead of their time. could it have been a Crz?

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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They look like that because it's cool. I love the visual distinction from the cooking petrol or diesel models. They've got some cool technology in them so why not show it off?

Mr Tidy

22,327 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Baryonyx said:
They look like that because it's cool. I love the visual distinction from the cooking petrol or diesel models. They've got some cool technology in them so why not show it off?
Look cool! biglaugh

Well each to their own!

Cool is the last thing they look IMHO - vomit

It seems to be all about shouty tree-hugging credentials - the buyers want everyone to know they are saving the planet (using electricity produced by CO2 generating power stations - oops that doesn't sit well)!

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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I've just returned from a week in Oslo where electric cars are almost as prevalent as conventional ones. Aside from the i3 (and the funny little Peugeot iON) they all look like normal road cars.

The number of Tesla S' over there is quite staggering, but there were also plenty of e-Golfs, e-Ups, A3-eTrons.

Considering 1 in 3 cars sold in Norway are now EVs it doesn't look like some futuristic space port, most of them are entirely conventional looking.

Mr Tidy

22,327 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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ukaskew said:
I've just returned from a week in Oslo where electric cars are almost as prevalent as conventional ones. Aside from the i3 (and the funny little Peugeot iON) they all look like normal road cars.

The number of Tesla S' over there is quite staggering, but there were also plenty of e-Golfs, e-Ups, A3-eTrons.

Considering 1 in 3 cars sold in Norway are now EVs it doesn't look like some futuristic space port, most of them are entirely conventional looking.
I think it may have something to do with taxation in Norway.......

Truckosaurus

11,291 posts

284 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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ALTO77 said:
Not trying to be an arse, but is their a Honda crx hybrid?... could it have been a Crz?
I'm sure our comrade meant to say 'CRZ'. I still think that car is/was a missed opportunity. It's a good looking car but has such a weedy engine.

If they'd done a version with some more power which when combined with the electric assistance would equal the performance of a Type-R then it would be a much more interesting car and given them a proper halo effect for their hybrid systems.

As for the original question, the correct answer as has been already noted is that the cars are deliberately styled differently to allow the owners to be smug, I bet they make a big song and dance about plugging in their car to charge when out with their friends.

Butter Face

30,304 posts

160 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Truckosaurus said:
ALTO77 said:
Not trying to be an arse, but is their a Honda crx hybrid?... could it have been a Crz?
I'm sure our comrade meant to say 'CRZ'. I still think that car is/was a missed opportunity. It's a good looking car but has such a weedy engine.

If they'd done a version with some more power which when combined with the electric assistance would equal the performance of a Type-R then it would be a much more interesting car and given them a proper halo effect for their hybrid systems.

As for the original question, the correct answer as has been already noted is that the cars are deliberately styled differently to allow the owners to be smug, I bet they make a big song and dance about plugging in their car to charge when out with their friends.
A Mugen CRZ is what you desire. 197bhp supercharged 1.5.


And to answer the original question (although it's already been said) the Renault ZOE is what you need. Looks relatively normal.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

130 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Butter Face said:
And to answer the original question (although it's already been said) the Renault ZOE is what you need. Looks relatively normal.
It has a stupid name.

MTech535

613 posts

111 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Most cars have stupid names. Renault are particularly skilled at this. Surely Zoe is one of the more normal ones.

Valgar

850 posts

135 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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The ZOE looks normal, shame about the forced battery hire that's barely cheaper than fuel, oh and they limit your miles.

Pete Eroleum

278 posts

187 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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WaferThinHam said:
It has a stupid name.
Zoe is Greek for life iirc. Doesn't sound great in English tho' I concede.

AnotherClarkey

3,596 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th May 2016
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Valgar said:
The ZOE looks normal, shame about the forced battery hire that's barely cheaper than fuel, oh and they limit your miles.
They are no longer forcing you to hire the battery, you can opt to buy the whole thing outright if you want.