Pugsley the 1994 Peugeot 205 1.8d Mardi Gras
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More often than not in my motoring life, a variety of scenarios conspire to lead me ever deeper into the chasm of hopeless acquisition of unneeded motor vehicles.
Sunday was one of those days.
For a month and 2 days since the 316 e30 departed, I had managed to avoid buying another vehicle, and lavished some long overdue attention on the CX, Vectra and 320i. However, despite such cold turkey successes, the dark spectre of bargainatious cars loomed ever present..
Firstly, whilst clearing out our small unit, I had to move 60 odd litres of filtered WVO about the place, and started to lament the lack of an oldschool Diesel to run on it. I'd previously had success with the Lucas pumped VW Polo, running up to 75% veg in warm weather.
Secondly, I'd previously had a good long drive in a Peugeot 205 1.8d I delivered to Aberdeen, and been mightily impressed.
Thirdly, the Burd and I were due to pop to Nottingham to visit some friends.
Lastly, a compus mentis vendor had a Pug 205 1.8d for sale on Retro Rides, not 60 miles from Nottingham.
Fait accompli as they say en France..
We went to Nottingham on Friday afternoon and spent a most pleasant day and a half with friends - its always good to catch up, plus I find that spending out on some decent hotels and meals softens the blows from the Burd when I float the idea of ANOTHER car..
We start the trip at Woolley Edge services on the M1
This was a brief stop to let the vendor know we were but 20 mins away, allowing him to abandon his house move, and head to meet us. I was grateful for him taking the time out to allow me to collect Pugsley (so the vendor suggested) - made the whole process much easier.
Initial inspection showed what looked to be a solid, honest little car - 107k miles, 3 owners from new and MOT til November. All the useful things worked- meaning I'd have a full compliment of lights/horn and wipers for the long schlep North.
Without even a test drive, I paid my money and set off for home. First stop was the Petrol station, where both the Vectra and the 205 received a tankful.
Astonishingly, two full tanks was about £93, and the Vectra returned an almost unreal 42.45mpg. All this fuel sipping was done at 70mph, with scant regard for fuel saving- the 2.2 lump really does well on long cruises.
From there on, we had a quiet cruise almost all the way home. The last 10 miles saw 3 idiots attempt ridiculous maneuvers including undertaking, attempting to cut across 3 lanes and an inability to enure that vehicles had been passed before heading back over to the left hand lane.
We survived unscathed but tired. Time to park her up and get some sleep on.
So what have I bought?
Its a 1994 205 with the 1.8 na XUD indirect injection diesel in it with 59 Hp and 110 lb⋅ft of torque.
Its a 3dr shell, and is the Mardi Gras level of trim. This gets you such delights as
Keep Fit windows,
"Stretch to Adjust" wing mirrors and
Central locking because you can reach both doors from the Driver's seat.
It weighs in at 880kg, so if a nimble little thing, despite the pig iron lump up front. It's also a 3 dr shell (or 2dr plus Hatch, depending on who you believe) so is not as awkwardly proportioned as the 5dr.
Additionally, it has a Power Steering reservoir at the front of the engine bay, suggesting that it has finger light shuftying capability - despite this, the steering still has decent feel and weight.
Bodily, it is in remarkably good shape, as you can see.
There are a couple of rust blebs on the Tailgate, but all in all it looks to be in great external condition
The interior is in great shape, with only an exploded gearknob letting the side down -it even responded well to a quick but thorough clean
The current plan is to press it into daily service, sharing commuting duties with the 320i. Additionally it'll make an ideal fuel supper for the long runs to the unit where the CX is billeted
I'll update more in short order once I've had a good look over her..
Sunday was one of those days.
For a month and 2 days since the 316 e30 departed, I had managed to avoid buying another vehicle, and lavished some long overdue attention on the CX, Vectra and 320i. However, despite such cold turkey successes, the dark spectre of bargainatious cars loomed ever present..
Firstly, whilst clearing out our small unit, I had to move 60 odd litres of filtered WVO about the place, and started to lament the lack of an oldschool Diesel to run on it. I'd previously had success with the Lucas pumped VW Polo, running up to 75% veg in warm weather.
Secondly, I'd previously had a good long drive in a Peugeot 205 1.8d I delivered to Aberdeen, and been mightily impressed.
Thirdly, the Burd and I were due to pop to Nottingham to visit some friends.
Lastly, a compus mentis vendor had a Pug 205 1.8d for sale on Retro Rides, not 60 miles from Nottingham.
Fait accompli as they say en France..
We went to Nottingham on Friday afternoon and spent a most pleasant day and a half with friends - its always good to catch up, plus I find that spending out on some decent hotels and meals softens the blows from the Burd when I float the idea of ANOTHER car..
We start the trip at Woolley Edge services on the M1
This was a brief stop to let the vendor know we were but 20 mins away, allowing him to abandon his house move, and head to meet us. I was grateful for him taking the time out to allow me to collect Pugsley (so the vendor suggested) - made the whole process much easier.
Initial inspection showed what looked to be a solid, honest little car - 107k miles, 3 owners from new and MOT til November. All the useful things worked- meaning I'd have a full compliment of lights/horn and wipers for the long schlep North.
Without even a test drive, I paid my money and set off for home. First stop was the Petrol station, where both the Vectra and the 205 received a tankful.
Astonishingly, two full tanks was about £93, and the Vectra returned an almost unreal 42.45mpg. All this fuel sipping was done at 70mph, with scant regard for fuel saving- the 2.2 lump really does well on long cruises.
From there on, we had a quiet cruise almost all the way home. The last 10 miles saw 3 idiots attempt ridiculous maneuvers including undertaking, attempting to cut across 3 lanes and an inability to enure that vehicles had been passed before heading back over to the left hand lane.
We survived unscathed but tired. Time to park her up and get some sleep on.
So what have I bought?
Its a 1994 205 with the 1.8 na XUD indirect injection diesel in it with 59 Hp and 110 lb⋅ft of torque.
Its a 3dr shell, and is the Mardi Gras level of trim. This gets you such delights as
Keep Fit windows,
"Stretch to Adjust" wing mirrors and
Central locking because you can reach both doors from the Driver's seat.
It weighs in at 880kg, so if a nimble little thing, despite the pig iron lump up front. It's also a 3 dr shell (or 2dr plus Hatch, depending on who you believe) so is not as awkwardly proportioned as the 5dr.
Additionally, it has a Power Steering reservoir at the front of the engine bay, suggesting that it has finger light shuftying capability - despite this, the steering still has decent feel and weight.
Bodily, it is in remarkably good shape, as you can see.
There are a couple of rust blebs on the Tailgate, but all in all it looks to be in great external condition
The interior is in great shape, with only an exploded gearknob letting the side down -it even responded well to a quick but thorough clean
The current plan is to press it into daily service, sharing commuting duties with the 320i. Additionally it'll make an ideal fuel supper for the long runs to the unit where the CX is billeted
I'll update more in short order once I've had a good look over her..
eltax91 said:
Nice writing style OP. Running on wvo this will cost buttons to run.
Having tuna previous 306 on it, I was lead to believe the Lucas systems don't like it and pumps fail, but Bosch ones are ok?
The Lucas pumps are not as robust on veg- seem to be more likely to leak/fail. I believe this is to do with the way they use the fuel to lubricate the pump, although I could be wrong.Having tuna previous 306 on it, I was lead to believe the Lucas systems don't like it and pumps fail, but Bosch ones are ok?
I'd had a Lucas pumped Polo 1.9d that was happy on up to 75% wvo in summer- did about 10k miles in it no problem. I'll likely start off with a gentle mix and increase it as I go.
it'll get a service/new fuel filter before it gets any wvo though
I like experimenting like this
pugglet turned in a 527 mile first tank, 55mp and 32 quid to fill it (20l veg, 23l derv)
fuel filter changed-rude not to at 2.64pugglet turned in a 527 mile first tank, 55mp and 32 quid to fill it (20l veg, 23l derv)
fuel filter changed-rude not to at £2.64
my driving style could be best described as enthusiastic
fuel filter changed-rude not to at 2.64pugglet turned in a 527 mile first tank, 55mp and 32 quid to fill it (20l veg, 23l derv)
fuel filter changed-rude not to at £2.64
my driving style could be best described as enthusiastic
Enjoy him, I hope you've kept the £1 coin in the ashtray, damned to death upon removal.
I miss the bloody thing now, was a fantastically faithful steed.
Edit: Never bothered with anything other than derv, too many horror stories with the Lucas pumps, failed seals, injector pumps. etc etc. So it'll be interesting to see how you get on. They certainly aren't as robust as the Bosch.
I miss the bloody thing now, was a fantastically faithful steed.
Edit: Never bothered with anything other than derv, too many horror stories with the Lucas pumps, failed seals, injector pumps. etc etc. So it'll be interesting to see how you get on. They certainly aren't as robust as the Bosch.
Edited by Jimmy No Hands on Thursday 28th July 22:51
Thats cool there's not many of these left.
I love 205's had a fair few including we had a rally prepared version fitted with a Xantia Tdi 1900cc engine that we used in an autocross - was very strange to compete in as no engine noise on the loose surface with all the stones kicking up you could not hear the engine at all
I love 205's had a fair few including we had a rally prepared version fitted with a Xantia Tdi 1900cc engine that we used in an autocross - was very strange to compete in as no engine noise on the loose surface with all the stones kicking up you could not hear the engine at all
I really like the older hatchbacks with the old school diesel engines in them.
Not had so much experience of the french ones but the old basic spec vauxhalls (corsa B etc) with the NA Isuzu lumps would go on forever, quite similar to these I would imagine.
A NA diesel would be horrid for most things but they kinda suit diddy hatchbacks well.
Not had so much experience of the french ones but the old basic spec vauxhalls (corsa B etc) with the NA Isuzu lumps would go on forever, quite similar to these I would imagine.
A NA diesel would be horrid for most things but they kinda suit diddy hatchbacks well.
After spending some time tinkering on the CX, it was back to convention for this one - pleasingly boring in comparison to the CX. We have coil springs and dampers. We have normal brake fluid and we have a manual gearbox. Simple, unsophisticated and light. Well, light if you discount the lump of Pig Iron that is the NA XUD that powers this beast..
Having bought it 6 days previous, its baptism and introduction to the fleet has been swift and brutal.
I have pressed it into daily driver service, covering over 700 miles already with no issue. It is now on its 2nd tank of fuel, and running a 40% WVO mix. Prior to the WVO going in, I saw fit to treat her to a new fuel filter.
Swapping these on an XUD is very simple, with the filter being exposed once 4 small allen bolts are removed. The filter then just pops out, and the new one can be swapped in. Once the top is refitted, it is just a case of squeezing the priming bulb to fill the filter housing with fuel, and away you go.
My mate Brian gave me an oil filter for the Pug gratis free. Today I took the opportunity to capitalise on his generosity by also splashing out a whole £10 on oil from Tesco, and treating the 205 to an overdue change.
Total spend so far £12.64.
We took the opportunity to approach the 205 review in a similar manner to that used on the CX.
Passenger front - took the wheel off to reveal a fairly heavily worn outer pad, an inner pad that had done little work, and a warped brake disc. Looks like we are on for new front discs and pads for both sides.
In the interim, we cleaned up the sliders and gravity bled the caliper to improve pedal feel.
The front dampers on both sides looked past their best, so I'll decided whether the car is a keeper, and if so, I will get new dampers.
The driver's side front had much better pad wear, and no obvious disc/braking force issues. However, it did have a broken bleed nipple. It is snapped off flush with the caliper, so I think a new caliper may be the most prudent repair method
Next up, the rear of the car was investigated - this seems in reasonable condition with little cause for concern - again, the preference would be to refresh the suspension, but it appears serviceable for now.
All 4 arches seem in great condition, and the sills look to be in solid shape - I'm really pleased with the condition of the bodywork and interior, and most of the stuff that needs replaced could be considered service items due to the mileage of the car.
It has also had copper brakelines fitted, so no need to be concerned about failing the MOT with any rust on them.
astly, we saw fit to wire brush and rust treat the wheels before spraying them black with pound shop paint (a cost of £2 for 2 cans). despite this not being the most thorough of jobs, and the prep being less than perfect - they turned out well, and the car is turning into quite a little looker!
Not bad for £14.64 spent!
Having bought it 6 days previous, its baptism and introduction to the fleet has been swift and brutal.
I have pressed it into daily driver service, covering over 700 miles already with no issue. It is now on its 2nd tank of fuel, and running a 40% WVO mix. Prior to the WVO going in, I saw fit to treat her to a new fuel filter.
Swapping these on an XUD is very simple, with the filter being exposed once 4 small allen bolts are removed. The filter then just pops out, and the new one can be swapped in. Once the top is refitted, it is just a case of squeezing the priming bulb to fill the filter housing with fuel, and away you go.
My mate Brian gave me an oil filter for the Pug gratis free. Today I took the opportunity to capitalise on his generosity by also splashing out a whole £10 on oil from Tesco, and treating the 205 to an overdue change.
Total spend so far £12.64.
We took the opportunity to approach the 205 review in a similar manner to that used on the CX.
Passenger front - took the wheel off to reveal a fairly heavily worn outer pad, an inner pad that had done little work, and a warped brake disc. Looks like we are on for new front discs and pads for both sides.
In the interim, we cleaned up the sliders and gravity bled the caliper to improve pedal feel.
The front dampers on both sides looked past their best, so I'll decided whether the car is a keeper, and if so, I will get new dampers.
The driver's side front had much better pad wear, and no obvious disc/braking force issues. However, it did have a broken bleed nipple. It is snapped off flush with the caliper, so I think a new caliper may be the most prudent repair method
Next up, the rear of the car was investigated - this seems in reasonable condition with little cause for concern - again, the preference would be to refresh the suspension, but it appears serviceable for now.
All 4 arches seem in great condition, and the sills look to be in solid shape - I'm really pleased with the condition of the bodywork and interior, and most of the stuff that needs replaced could be considered service items due to the mileage of the car.
It has also had copper brakelines fitted, so no need to be concerned about failing the MOT with any rust on them.
astly, we saw fit to wire brush and rust treat the wheels before spraying them black with pound shop paint (a cost of £2 for 2 cans). despite this not being the most thorough of jobs, and the prep being less than perfect - they turned out well, and the car is turning into quite a little looker!
Not bad for £14.64 spent!
Well, where to start?
The good:
It did 386 miles on 32L of fuel- a handy 54mpg. I even took it and topped it up prior to today's planned expedition.
The Bad:
at 7.30am this morning, it just wouldn't bloody idle! start, rev, die. Repeat until the battery was flat
I put the keys back in the house and took the 320i instead- had a ball blatting about the borders.
The Ugly:
I consulted my Oracles (tame mechanic mate, and my own limited experience). Time to start with the basics.
I was running it on approx a 60% derv, 40% WVO mix - and had swapped out the filter about 400 miles ago. It was highly unlikely that it was blocked, but for the sake of 4 hex screws, it was worth a punt..
It was fine.
Time to start at the other end then - my Octavia had a gummed up sender unit int the fuel tank - which caused similar issues.
Lifting the back seat (2x 10mm nuts at the front then pull the back of the base) revealed 2 things
firstly, the access hatch was present and correct
secondly, the back seat is fairly minging, but appears to be unzippable from the foam - I feel it may get a shot in the washing machine when the Burd is oot..
anyway, time to look at the pipes and pickup - I papped 1 pipe off and was treated to a deluge of fuel.
Importantly it was clear and lacking in any gloop to suggest a blockage.
Up to the front then. And an obvious potential cuplrit.
The tape was covering a chafe in the pipe, so I patched it up with new tape until I can get new hose
She started with some pedal after being manually primed and idled roughly, with a fairly strong "tapping" sound from the fuel pump.
It wasn't keen to rev and appeared almost as grumpy as I was.
I figured out that the tapping sound was the fuel pump cavitating. A quick application of an 8mm socket to the bleed screw on the pump saw it die.
I tightened it back up, and restarted the car. Idle was nice and smooth, with mo tapping sound. All good it seems!
I think it's going drag racing this weekend..
The good:
It did 386 miles on 32L of fuel- a handy 54mpg. I even took it and topped it up prior to today's planned expedition.
The Bad:
at 7.30am this morning, it just wouldn't bloody idle! start, rev, die. Repeat until the battery was flat
I put the keys back in the house and took the 320i instead- had a ball blatting about the borders.
The Ugly:
I consulted my Oracles (tame mechanic mate, and my own limited experience). Time to start with the basics.
I was running it on approx a 60% derv, 40% WVO mix - and had swapped out the filter about 400 miles ago. It was highly unlikely that it was blocked, but for the sake of 4 hex screws, it was worth a punt..
It was fine.
Time to start at the other end then - my Octavia had a gummed up sender unit int the fuel tank - which caused similar issues.
Lifting the back seat (2x 10mm nuts at the front then pull the back of the base) revealed 2 things
firstly, the access hatch was present and correct
secondly, the back seat is fairly minging, but appears to be unzippable from the foam - I feel it may get a shot in the washing machine when the Burd is oot..
anyway, time to look at the pipes and pickup - I papped 1 pipe off and was treated to a deluge of fuel.
Importantly it was clear and lacking in any gloop to suggest a blockage.
Up to the front then. And an obvious potential cuplrit.
The tape was covering a chafe in the pipe, so I patched it up with new tape until I can get new hose
She started with some pedal after being manually primed and idled roughly, with a fairly strong "tapping" sound from the fuel pump.
It wasn't keen to rev and appeared almost as grumpy as I was.
I figured out that the tapping sound was the fuel pump cavitating. A quick application of an 8mm socket to the bleed screw on the pump saw it die.
I tightened it back up, and restarted the car. Idle was nice and smooth, with mo tapping sound. All good it seems!
I think it's going drag racing this weekend..
The drag racing never happened as it was recalcitrant in extremis when I attempted to start it on the Sunday morning.
I took the 320 drag racing instead- it appears to be as fast as the Vectra SRi also on fleet.
Anyway, I digress.
£6 saw me with 1m of fuel hose and 4 new jubilee clips- time to get to work!
First up I removed the stop solenoid wire (8mm nut) so I could access the connection on the pump.
then shuftied the pipe along after loosening it off
Then I turned my attention to the fuel filter end- being extra careful noot to be ham fisted due to the plastic nature of the fitting
with the new pipe fitted and clips tightened, and a small prime, she started right up - or at least she would have if I'd reconnected the stop solenoid wiring...
Eventually we had an even idle and a willingness to rev. A 10 mile test drive told me it was working a bit better but still not 100%
Having driven it to work I think that either
a. Air is still trapped in the Lucas pump
b. Its still drawing air from somewhere due to the thicker veg needing more draw from the pump.
Anyone got any ideas/suggestions re bleeding the pump?
I took the 320 drag racing instead- it appears to be as fast as the Vectra SRi also on fleet.
Anyway, I digress.
£6 saw me with 1m of fuel hose and 4 new jubilee clips- time to get to work!
First up I removed the stop solenoid wire (8mm nut) so I could access the connection on the pump.
then shuftied the pipe along after loosening it off
Then I turned my attention to the fuel filter end- being extra careful noot to be ham fisted due to the plastic nature of the fitting
with the new pipe fitted and clips tightened, and a small prime, she started right up - or at least she would have if I'd reconnected the stop solenoid wiring...
Eventually we had an even idle and a willingness to rev. A 10 mile test drive told me it was working a bit better but still not 100%
Having driven it to work I think that either
a. Air is still trapped in the Lucas pump
b. Its still drawing air from somewhere due to the thicker veg needing more draw from the pump.
Anyone got any ideas/suggestions re bleeding the pump?
2 major things were wrong with the car – Firstly the fuel system seems to be drawing in air, and secondly the brakes were horrible.
second things first then..
When braking there was a horrible pulse from the front left- feeling like a warped disc or sticking caliper.
Initial investigation the other week highlighted that the pads were not wearing evenly, and that the disc seemed to be out of true. New pads and discs were procured cheaply so we set about fitting them.
First up, the disc retaining screw. The Hulk must have worked in the garage that last did the discs, as a herculean effort including an impact drive, penetrating oil and even a blowtorch was required to get the bleeding thing out.
Once it was out, the disc came off easily, without the caliper being removed. the hub was cleaned up, new disc installed, and the pads of much newness fitted.
The other side took 5 minutes- no issues at all. Result? brakes are now superb- strong, consistent and controllable, well worth the moderate expenditure.
Onto the fuel issue then..
Several chaps knowledgeable in such things had suggested that as the car was running on a 40% WVO mix, the additional viscosity and pumping effort required to draw the fuel could show up any weaknesses/ potential air leaks in the fuel system.
This seems to be what is happening – if you prime the system, and bleed the pump, she’ll run grand for 5 mins, then you can feel the performance reduce. Despite this, I’ve put 600+ miles on her in 3 days – I don’t really do mechanical sympathy;)
First up, I replaced the leak off pipes – no difference.
Then we checked the injectors- seeing some bubbling at the seal at the left most one – with nothing showing at the others. We checked it was tight with a 27mm spanner but it seemed to be fully home.
There also seemed to be fuel leaking from the base of the fuel filter housing, but that was left untouched as I had to keep the car in 1 piece to get home – subsequent investigations showed it to be hammering out a fair rate of fuel- so I’m scouting for a replacement part.
The air filter was mawkit, so got a good clan prior to refitting (I’ll likely swap it for a new one should I get the bleeding thing to work..)
Its also running on Derv at the moment, but is still bloody grumpy and not keen to hold and idle.
Got to love French cars..
second things first then..
When braking there was a horrible pulse from the front left- feeling like a warped disc or sticking caliper.
Initial investigation the other week highlighted that the pads were not wearing evenly, and that the disc seemed to be out of true. New pads and discs were procured cheaply so we set about fitting them.
First up, the disc retaining screw. The Hulk must have worked in the garage that last did the discs, as a herculean effort including an impact drive, penetrating oil and even a blowtorch was required to get the bleeding thing out.
Once it was out, the disc came off easily, without the caliper being removed. the hub was cleaned up, new disc installed, and the pads of much newness fitted.
The other side took 5 minutes- no issues at all. Result? brakes are now superb- strong, consistent and controllable, well worth the moderate expenditure.
Onto the fuel issue then..
Several chaps knowledgeable in such things had suggested that as the car was running on a 40% WVO mix, the additional viscosity and pumping effort required to draw the fuel could show up any weaknesses/ potential air leaks in the fuel system.
This seems to be what is happening – if you prime the system, and bleed the pump, she’ll run grand for 5 mins, then you can feel the performance reduce. Despite this, I’ve put 600+ miles on her in 3 days – I don’t really do mechanical sympathy;)
First up, I replaced the leak off pipes – no difference.
Then we checked the injectors- seeing some bubbling at the seal at the left most one – with nothing showing at the others. We checked it was tight with a 27mm spanner but it seemed to be fully home.
There also seemed to be fuel leaking from the base of the fuel filter housing, but that was left untouched as I had to keep the car in 1 piece to get home – subsequent investigations showed it to be hammering out a fair rate of fuel- so I’m scouting for a replacement part.
The air filter was mawkit, so got a good clan prior to refitting (I’ll likely swap it for a new one should I get the bleeding thing to work..)
Its also running on Derv at the moment, but is still bloody grumpy and not keen to hold and idle.
Got to love French cars..
HustleRussell said:
I like the little pug and the spirit of the thread but this whole WVO thing, in this case, seems like a great way to make a very frugal and functional car quite a lot less functional?
It depends- you can renew all the fuel system and chase all the potential leaks..I decided just to dodd some in amd see what happened.
in its defence, its never failed to get me where I was going, and all the new parts inc oil service and brakes came to £55
hardly extortionate.. Its a cheap old car that I'm making better in some ways (new brakes are for winnahs!)
the wvo I'll plod along chasing til I get somewhere or give up.
I've bought this filter which is a recognised work around for bypassing the original filter housing (whuch was not aur tight on this car)
will pap it on amd see how it goes!
I got a replacement filter from a bmw e46 320d and fitted it bypassing the original filter and housing.
Initially it was just papped in to see if it'd start. Happily it did.
then we got it secured out the way down beside the wheel brace on the inner wing.
It performed faultlessly on the trst drive, right up until the Drivers track rod end decided that it'd wobble like f
k..
bloody thing!
Initially it was just papped in to see if it'd start. Happily it did.
then we got it secured out the way down beside the wheel brace on the inner wing.
It performed faultlessly on the trst drive, right up until the Drivers track rod end decided that it'd wobble like f
k..bloody thing!
This is why I don't buy sheds, I'm mechanically inept so all this stuff would be fixed at garage rates. I'd be bankrupt, a lot.
It will be my retirement hobby though when I don't actually need to get places, I just need a field to fill with all my 'projects' first.
I love these threads though because so many people talk about these cars they bought for 18p and spent nothing on for 5 years then sold for £12,000. It's nice to see the reality rather than the fantasy.
It will be my retirement hobby though when I don't actually need to get places, I just need a field to fill with all my 'projects' first.
I love these threads though because so many people talk about these cars they bought for 18p and spent nothing on for 5 years then sold for £12,000. It's nice to see the reality rather than the fantasy.
poing said:
This is why I don't buy sheds, I'm mechanically inept so all this stuff would be fixed at garage rates. I'd be bankrupt, a lot.
It will be my retirement hobby though when I don't actually need to get places, I just need a field to fill with all my 'projects' first.
I love these threads though because so many people talk about these cars they bought for 18p and spent nothing on for 5 years then sold for £12,000. It's nice to see the reality rather than the fantasy.
it still stands me at peanuts, and I didnae hrlp myself by running it on veg from the off.It will be my retirement hobby though when I don't actually need to get places, I just need a field to fill with all my 'projects' first.
I love these threads though because so many people talk about these cars they bought for 18p and spent nothing on for 5 years then sold for £12,000. It's nice to see the reality rather than the fantasy.
most of the sorting so far has been wear/tear or my own fault.
track rod end could be a barsteward though..
poing said:
This is why I don't buy sheds, I'm mechanically inept so all this stuff would be fixed at garage rates. I'd be bankrupt, a lot.
It will be my retirement hobby though when I don't actually need to get places, I just need a field to fill with all my 'projects' first.
I love these threads though because so many people talk about these cars they bought for 18p and spent nothing on for 5 years then sold for £12,000. It's nice to see the reality rather than the fantasy.
it still stands me at peanuts, and I didnae hrlp myself by running it on veg from the off.It will be my retirement hobby though when I don't actually need to get places, I just need a field to fill with all my 'projects' first.
I love these threads though because so many people talk about these cars they bought for 18p and spent nothing on for 5 years then sold for £12,000. It's nice to see the reality rather than the fantasy.
most of the sorting so far has been wear/tear or my own fault.
track rod end could be a barsteward though..
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