Self Employed Joiner Daily Rate?

[uber]

Anyone got any idea what the current day rate for a joiner working on garden fencing / decking etc should be?

[MDMA .]

How much would you want in his shoes ? Base your answer on that

Area, skill, labour only, supply and labour ? Could be semi retired and pocket money. Hard to say really. What is he quoting ?

Edited by MDMA . on Saturday 30th July 23:38

[lunarscope]

I usually quote £16 per hour for fencing, decking and paths/patios.
A time-served joiner would probably want a bit more than that.
Do you really need a proper joiner for the work you require ?

[trickywoo]

lunarscope said:

I usually quote £16 per hour for fencing, decking and paths/patios.
A time-served joiner would probably want a bit more than that.
Do you really need a proper joiner for the work you require ?

Are you really saying a self employed joiner having to pay for a van etc will only take in £33k a year before tax and costs for 40 hrs worked every week for 52 weeks.

The 'standard' rate is more like £250 a day.

[neth27]

It would depend what part of the country you are in. Around where I live you would be lucky to get £150 a day.

John..

[RYH64E]

Whereabouts in the country? About £150-£200/day for a carpenter up here in Suffolk, less for someone who just does fences, more for a proper joiner.

[alanyork]

I pay £150 max a day in York.

[DSLiverpool]

£150 wirral BUT **** ALWAYS **** get a time estimate BEFORE asking the day rate.

[astroarcadia]

Carpenter needed not joiner.

£180/day in Gloucestershire.

[lunarscope]

trickywoo said:

lunarscope said:

I usually quote £16 per hour for fencing, decking and paths/patios.
A time-served joiner would probably want a bit more than that.
Do you really need a proper joiner for the work you require ?

Are you really saying a self employed joiner having to pay for a van etc will only take in £33k a year before tax and costs for 40 hrs worked every week for 52 weeks.

The 'standard' rate is more like £250 a day.

No. I'm not saying that. I do landscaping/garden design and that's what I charge here in North Wales. A skilled joiner will charge more but you don't need one to build a deck or erect fencing.

[Ade07]

Skilled joiner £150 per day

Erecting fences, decking, etc, about £100 to £120 a day

Liverpool/Manchester

[Pistom]

I've used joiners at £8/hour who produced a neat job but were slow, £12.50 were neat and OK speed wise, £15.00 who were no better than the £12.50s. Some quoted £30 who I've never been able to afford but are more cabinet makers in their standard of work.

[Little Lofty]

£15-20 per hour is about the norm. When I first went self employed in 1999 I done a bit of work for a few builders and charged £10 per hour, so the rate hasn't increased a great deal in that time.

[Saleen836]

Little Lofty said:

£15-20 per hour is about the norm. When I first went self employed in 1999 I done a bit of work for a few builders and charged £10 per hour, so the rate hasn't increased a great deal in that time.

It all crashed and rates wend south just after the crash in 2008, it has taken till now for pre 2008 rates to get back to what they were back then.

[Blakeatron]

We charge £30 per hour per person, but we are more cabinet makers than joiners.

I pay my subbies £20 an hour when i get them in, but i only use the best ones

[trev540]

The joiner that I know would tell you to get a fencer or landscape gardner for the work you listed.

[madmover]

For a self employed chippy, who's experienced, I'd be saying somewhere between 150 and 180 a day inc VAT.

[MDMA .]

trickywoo said:

Are you really saying a self employed joiner having to pay for a van etc will only take in £33k a year before tax and costs for 40 hrs worked every week for 52 weeks.

The 'standard' rate is more like £250 a day.

So you saying they are on 65k a year ?

Dont think so. Not on day rate fitting decking.

[Builda89]

250 per day, also bear in mind 250 is not our wage, it's for a service for labour and knowledge, we have business costs (insurance etc), vans to run, maintain and insure, wear and tear of tools, PPE, time and cost of going to look at jobs, time for pricing jobs, writing invoices, sourceing materials, and the list goes on.. So when a tradesman quotes 250 per day don't assume he's paying himself 65k a year.. If only it was that easy.. 😀

[TA14]

Well, I'm glad that's sorted out after ten months