Discussion
matrignano said:
You could go Purple Amethyst as per this superb Q'd V12 Vantage:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/aston-martin/2015-ast...
That's nice but a bit bright for me. This is my old V8V from when I lived in Doha. With some coloured accents, this would be perfect on the S Manual. Mauvine blue is even darker and nicer IMO. http://www.topspeed.com/cars/aston-martin/2015-ast...
AdamV12V said:
Just back from the test drive and I'm pleased to report that the car is epic!
Roll on end October for the Kermit Green Mean Machine to be born!
(Just in case you have forgotten he is going to look like - here is my best photoshop effort)
Great to hear you enjoyed it as much as I did. All of the incremental improvements add up to a cracking car, the like of which we probably wont see again, sadly. Roll on end October for the Kermit Green Mean Machine to be born!
(Just in case you have forgotten he is going to look like - here is my best photoshop effort)
Edited by AdamV12V on Friday 5th August 13:03
cheers,
dbs2000 said:
Buy it in the UK, I'll look after it for 6 months and bring it over with me for you. I'm all heart.
In seriousness, the numbers in NL for these cars are completely mental. When the DBS comes over with me I'll have to have had her a while and then won't be able to sell for a year (or is it more?) else I'll be ruined with taxes.
I think its 1 year you cant sell indeed.In seriousness, the numbers in NL for these cars are completely mental. When the DBS comes over with me I'll have to have had her a while and then won't be able to sell for a year (or is it more?) else I'll be ruined with taxes.
Its incredibly unfair, as its supposed to be free movement of people, services and goods....but not to Holland..
I asked Kroymans (official AM dealer), the end price of a v12vsm car is going to be around 300k euro. Thats not even the Roadster....
But then again, im currently "car-broke" as I just bought an SLR Roadster. First world problems and all....
I drove it today, much better than expected
Thinking; Ceramic Grey, Silver Lightweight Wheels, Lightweight Seats, maybe Tan or Bronze or Choc/Obsidian Black interior. Bright work on the exterior, no Sports Pack and original V12V black grille
November production, December delivery promised
Thinking hard..........
Thinking; Ceramic Grey, Silver Lightweight Wheels, Lightweight Seats, maybe Tan or Bronze or Choc/Obsidian Black interior. Bright work on the exterior, no Sports Pack and original V12V black grille
November production, December delivery promised
Thinking hard..........
Edited by KevinBird on Tuesday 9th August 23:06
Drove it about 10 days ago, currently own a 2009 V12V.
Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Gettoff said:
Drove it about 10 days ago, currently own a 2009 V12V.
Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Didn't like it then? Shame.. Thought this could have been the car to keep you from jumping ship. Maybe you need one of those cars made in Woking for a couple of years, then back into the V12V..Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Gettoff said:
Drove it about 10 days ago, currently own a 2009 V12V.
Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Ok so the original is still the best.Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Gettoff said:
Drove it about 10 days ago, currently own a 2009 V12V.
Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
I didn't find that at allFelt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Shift was nicely smooth and short - better than my 6 speed in my opinion. Clutch also had a nicer travel and feel.
Add that to the hugely better handling and the new car is much better.
Still wish it had the old console and the traditional grill, but you can't have everything
Edited to add.. and you can heel and toe!!!
Ok, so I drove the car yesterday, courtesy of AM Bristol. I wasn't planning a drive until it was offered when I was passing through on Saturday.
I might have a different view to others due to the fact I have a original V12V with the power upgrade to as much, if not a touch more than the S and I also have a Bilstein Active dampening system fitted.
Overall thoughts, it's great. It's a V12V with a load of tweaks that individually are all improvements. I thought the lightweight seats felt even better than old ones, the dash is nicer (I've come round to it), the reverse gear is better, the AM shift thing is kinda fun, though I'm not sure necessary. The downshifts did make me sound like a better driver.
The gearbox, well I found myself doing a few 2 to 5, but I'm sure once you get used to it, it is fantastic.
Overall it's a more refined package.
I'm seriously considering a roadster.
However, would I switch my current car for another coupe? No, not a chance. I felt zero performance improvement over my car. If anything I found the extra refinement took some of the raucous edge off. The rear suspension is apparently now a little softer and I thought that was noticeable.
If I didn't have a V12V, and had the choice, of course I'd go for the new one and have all the upsides of warranties, shiny new reg plate, better in-car tech, superior performance over the original car etc.
I think we're being unfair on the cost to change, because we are comparing 6 year old cars vs brand new, so of course it costs a bunch to change! For those of you that either don't want to spend the money, or like me are pretty attached to your current one, I don't think you'd regret having a chat with BR. It certainly answered the question for me.
I was wondering if I was making a mistake driving the new one having recently invested quite a lot in mine, but the first thing I did on the way home was call Mike BR and tell him how happy I was with my choice.
Back to the roadster... well, if you are looking at £140k for an original one, by the time you paid for upgrades, you might as well have the new one, and if I can find enough down the back of the sofa, I'd love to have one to sit alongside mine as I love the Vantage, and not currently being sold of the styling of the next gen, I think it could be as good as it gets for me.
So in summary, good work Aston, it's a cracking car. Current owners, drive one, and you will notice some big improvements, and if you want the main elements without changing you know where to go.
I might have a different view to others due to the fact I have a original V12V with the power upgrade to as much, if not a touch more than the S and I also have a Bilstein Active dampening system fitted.
Overall thoughts, it's great. It's a V12V with a load of tweaks that individually are all improvements. I thought the lightweight seats felt even better than old ones, the dash is nicer (I've come round to it), the reverse gear is better, the AM shift thing is kinda fun, though I'm not sure necessary. The downshifts did make me sound like a better driver.
The gearbox, well I found myself doing a few 2 to 5, but I'm sure once you get used to it, it is fantastic.
Overall it's a more refined package.
I'm seriously considering a roadster.
However, would I switch my current car for another coupe? No, not a chance. I felt zero performance improvement over my car. If anything I found the extra refinement took some of the raucous edge off. The rear suspension is apparently now a little softer and I thought that was noticeable.
If I didn't have a V12V, and had the choice, of course I'd go for the new one and have all the upsides of warranties, shiny new reg plate, better in-car tech, superior performance over the original car etc.
I think we're being unfair on the cost to change, because we are comparing 6 year old cars vs brand new, so of course it costs a bunch to change! For those of you that either don't want to spend the money, or like me are pretty attached to your current one, I don't think you'd regret having a chat with BR. It certainly answered the question for me.
I was wondering if I was making a mistake driving the new one having recently invested quite a lot in mine, but the first thing I did on the way home was call Mike BR and tell him how happy I was with my choice.
Back to the roadster... well, if you are looking at £140k for an original one, by the time you paid for upgrades, you might as well have the new one, and if I can find enough down the back of the sofa, I'd love to have one to sit alongside mine as I love the Vantage, and not currently being sold of the styling of the next gen, I think it could be as good as it gets for me.
So in summary, good work Aston, it's a cracking car. Current owners, drive one, and you will notice some big improvements, and if you want the main elements without changing you know where to go.
NeinFondue said:
Gettoff said:
Drove it about 10 days ago, currently own a 2009 V12V.
Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
Didn't like it then? Shame.. Thought this could have been the car to keep you from jumping ship. Maybe you need one of those cars made in Woking for a couple of years, then back into the V12V..Felt the gearbox was the sticking point metaphorically and physically, it's a a manual, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. It felt like it had extra tech applied to mask the deficiencies of what had been fitted, the 6 speed was a smoother change than the 7 with the AM shift turned off. With it on it was ok but why the hell do you need to change gear without lifting off the gas with a manual?? Stop pissing about and just put a basic and sweet changing box in the car and stop messing around with this nonsense, it doesn't need this frippery, open goal missed.
. Many ex-Aston owners have and I am not seeing too many regrets 
Not saying that another Aston will not find it's way back into the garage.outofstepuk said:
Ok, so I drove the car yesterday, courtesy of AM Bristol. I wasn't planning a drive until it was offered when I was passing through on Saturday.
I might have a different view to others due to the fact I have a original V12V with the power upgrade to as much, if not a touch more than the S and I also have a Bilstein Active dampening system fitted.
Overall thoughts, it's great. It's a V12V with a load of tweaks that individually are all improvements. I thought the lightweight seats felt even better than old ones, the dash is nicer (I've come round to it), the reverse gear is better, the AM shift thing is kinda fun, though I'm not sure necessary. The downshifts did make me sound like a better driver.
The gearbox, well I found myself doing a few 2 to 5, but I'm sure once you get used to it, it is fantastic.
Overall it's a more refined package.
I'm seriously considering a roadster.
However, would I switch my current car for another coupe? No, not a chance. I felt zero performance improvement over my car. If anything I found the extra refinement took some of the raucous edge off. The rear suspension is apparently now a little softer and I thought that was noticeable.
If I didn't have a V12V, and had the choice, of course I'd go for the new one and have all the upsides of warranties, shiny new reg plate, better in-car tech, superior performance over the original car etc.
I think we're being unfair on the cost to change, because we are comparing 6 year old cars vs brand new, so of course it costs a bunch to change! For those of you that either don't want to spend the money, or like me are pretty attached to your current one, I don't think you'd regret having a chat with BR. It certainly answered the question for me.
I was wondering if I was making a mistake driving the new one having recently invested quite a lot in mine, but the first thing I did on the way home was call Mike BR and tell him how happy I was with my choice.
Back to the roadster... well, if you are looking at £140k for an original one, by the time you paid for upgrades, you might as well have the new one, and if I can find enough down the back of the sofa, I'd love to have one to sit alongside mine as I love the Vantage, and not currently being sold of the styling of the next gen, I think it could be as good as it gets for me.
So in summary, good work Aston, it's a cracking car. Current owners, drive one, and you will notice some big improvements, and if you want the main elements without changing you know where to go.
How did you find the handling with your suspension upgrade compared to the new one?I might have a different view to others due to the fact I have a original V12V with the power upgrade to as much, if not a touch more than the S and I also have a Bilstein Active dampening system fitted.
Overall thoughts, it's great. It's a V12V with a load of tweaks that individually are all improvements. I thought the lightweight seats felt even better than old ones, the dash is nicer (I've come round to it), the reverse gear is better, the AM shift thing is kinda fun, though I'm not sure necessary. The downshifts did make me sound like a better driver.
The gearbox, well I found myself doing a few 2 to 5, but I'm sure once you get used to it, it is fantastic.
Overall it's a more refined package.
I'm seriously considering a roadster.
However, would I switch my current car for another coupe? No, not a chance. I felt zero performance improvement over my car. If anything I found the extra refinement took some of the raucous edge off. The rear suspension is apparently now a little softer and I thought that was noticeable.
If I didn't have a V12V, and had the choice, of course I'd go for the new one and have all the upsides of warranties, shiny new reg plate, better in-car tech, superior performance over the original car etc.
I think we're being unfair on the cost to change, because we are comparing 6 year old cars vs brand new, so of course it costs a bunch to change! For those of you that either don't want to spend the money, or like me are pretty attached to your current one, I don't think you'd regret having a chat with BR. It certainly answered the question for me.
I was wondering if I was making a mistake driving the new one having recently invested quite a lot in mine, but the first thing I did on the way home was call Mike BR and tell him how happy I was with my choice.
Back to the roadster... well, if you are looking at £140k for an original one, by the time you paid for upgrades, you might as well have the new one, and if I can find enough down the back of the sofa, I'd love to have one to sit alongside mine as I love the Vantage, and not currently being sold of the styling of the next gen, I think it could be as good as it gets for me.
So in summary, good work Aston, it's a cracking car. Current owners, drive one, and you will notice some big improvements, and if you want the main elements without changing you know where to go.
Ex Boy Racer said:
How did you find the handling with your suspension upgrade compared to the new one?
well, firstly I only took a 30 mins drive or so, and the only place to be "spirited" really was dual carriage-way/motorway. However, as we went through the options on the car, comfort/normal/sport etc it felt familiar to me of what I already have. The V12VS also changes the weighting of the steering, which is different to mine. However, I've never felt that was something I needed.I know Aston use a Bilstein system, and so do BR. Mine is controlled via an app and you can create profiles of how you want it set up, so you have more options, but for me so far, I use the settings preset by BR. I'm not a talented enough driver to worry about minor tweaks! V12VS on the button is easier to use though as you don't have to use your phone, and it pops up on the display what you are in.
I'm unsure what parts of the systems are the same if any, but I'm sure if Mike reads this he can comment. I don't know how much Aston will have developed exclusively with Bilstein, or if it's basically the same thing with a different interface.
They did tell me the rear suspension is set a little softer on the V12VS which is something apparently the American market wanted/had. My preference would be firmer. Don't want to tame it too much!
Cockernee said:
He definitely needs to try a Woking car . Many ex-Aston owners have and I am not seeing too many regrets Not saying that another Aston will not find it's way back into the garage.
Hmmmmm, not for me. Personally I'm not a fan of the look at all.. Many ex-Aston owners have and I am not seeing too many regrets Not saying that another Aston will not find it's way back into the garage.All personal opinion of course, but I certainly wouldn't buy one.......even at half the price. Top end speed and 0-60 is pretty irrelevant to me, it's more about the look, pedigree, history and the whole story. I'm sure they're great cars, but again for me there's no class or any of them. I'd put them in the same box as Ferrari......very very good, but screams "look at me", as opposed to "don't mind me"
outofstepuk said:
Ok, so I drove the car yesterday, courtesy of AM Bristol. I wasn't planning a drive until it was offered when I was passing through on Saturday.
I might have a different view to others due to the fact I have a original V12V with the power upgrade to as much, if not a touch more than the S and I also have a Bilstein Active dampening system fitted.
Overall thoughts, it's great. It's a V12V with a load of tweaks that individually are all improvements. I thought the lightweight seats felt even better than old ones, the dash is nicer (I've come round to it), the reverse gear is better, the AM shift thing is kinda fun, though I'm not sure necessary. The downshifts did make me sound like a better driver.
The gearbox, well I found myself doing a few 2 to 5, but I'm sure once you get used to it, it is fantastic.
Overall it's a more refined package.
I'm seriously considering a roadster.
However, would I switch my current car for another coupe? No, not a chance. I felt zero performance improvement over my car. If anything I found the extra refinement took some of the raucous edge off. The rear suspension is apparently now a little softer and I thought that was noticeable.
If I didn't have a V12V, and had the choice, of course I'd go for the new one and have all the upsides of warranties, shiny new reg plate, better in-car tech, superior performance over the original car etc.
I think we're being unfair on the cost to change, because we are comparing 6 year old cars vs brand new, so of course it costs a bunch to change! For those of you that either don't want to spend the money, or like me are pretty attached to your current one, I don't think you'd regret having a chat with BR. It certainly answered the question for me.
I was wondering if I was making a mistake driving the new one having recently invested quite a lot in mine, but the first thing I did on the way home was call Mike BR and tell him how happy I was with my choice.
Back to the roadster... well, if you are looking at £140k for an original one, by the time you paid for upgrades, you might as well have the new one, and if I can find enough down the back of the sofa, I'd love to have one to sit alongside mine as I love the Vantage, and not currently being sold of the styling of the next gen, I think it could be as good as it gets for me.
So in summary, good work Aston, it's a cracking car. Current owners, drive one, and you will notice some big improvements, and if you want the main elements without changing you know where to go.
100% agree with the above after having driven it on Saturday. Will be changing mine for a roadster for the same reasons. I definitely get the impression there will be way more than 10 rhd roadsters made; there must be that many people on here already!I might have a different view to others due to the fact I have a original V12V with the power upgrade to as much, if not a touch more than the S and I also have a Bilstein Active dampening system fitted.
Overall thoughts, it's great. It's a V12V with a load of tweaks that individually are all improvements. I thought the lightweight seats felt even better than old ones, the dash is nicer (I've come round to it), the reverse gear is better, the AM shift thing is kinda fun, though I'm not sure necessary. The downshifts did make me sound like a better driver.
The gearbox, well I found myself doing a few 2 to 5, but I'm sure once you get used to it, it is fantastic.
Overall it's a more refined package.
I'm seriously considering a roadster.
However, would I switch my current car for another coupe? No, not a chance. I felt zero performance improvement over my car. If anything I found the extra refinement took some of the raucous edge off. The rear suspension is apparently now a little softer and I thought that was noticeable.
If I didn't have a V12V, and had the choice, of course I'd go for the new one and have all the upsides of warranties, shiny new reg plate, better in-car tech, superior performance over the original car etc.
I think we're being unfair on the cost to change, because we are comparing 6 year old cars vs brand new, so of course it costs a bunch to change! For those of you that either don't want to spend the money, or like me are pretty attached to your current one, I don't think you'd regret having a chat with BR. It certainly answered the question for me.
I was wondering if I was making a mistake driving the new one having recently invested quite a lot in mine, but the first thing I did on the way home was call Mike BR and tell him how happy I was with my choice.
Back to the roadster... well, if you are looking at £140k for an original one, by the time you paid for upgrades, you might as well have the new one, and if I can find enough down the back of the sofa, I'd love to have one to sit alongside mine as I love the Vantage, and not currently being sold of the styling of the next gen, I think it could be as good as it gets for me.
So in summary, good work Aston, it's a cracking car. Current owners, drive one, and you will notice some big improvements, and if you want the main elements without changing you know where to go.
damianke said:
100% agree with the above after having driven it on Saturday. Will be changing mine for a roadster for the same reasons. I definitely get the impression there will be way more than 10 rhd roadsters made; there must be that many people on here already!
Well it certainly seems that way from the take up on this forum! Maybe my Coupe will even end up being the rarer of the two versions! I wonder how many confirmed PH orders we have now? For a long time there was only 2 or 3 of us, but I'd guess we are up to more like 10-12 now?
AdamV12V said:
damianke said:
100% agree with the above after having driven it on Saturday. Will be changing mine for a roadster for the same reasons. I definitely get the impression there will be way more than 10 rhd roadsters made; there must be that many people on here already!
Well it certainly seems that way from the take up on this forum! Maybe my Coupe will even end up being the rarer of the two versions! I wonder how many confirmed PH orders we have now? For a long time there was only 2 or 3 of us, but I'd guess we are up to more like 10-12 now?
ks!AdamV12V said:
Well it certainly seems that way from the take up on this forum! Maybe my Coupe will even end up being the rarer of the two versions!
I wonder how many confirmed PH orders we have now? For a long time there was only 2 or 3 of us, but I'd guess we are up to more like 10-12 now?
You may add me to the list. I've received word today that mine has been completed and has started it's voyage across the pond to the States. Also doing a green coupe from Q, though I chose a slightly more understated colour - historic Aston Green. We're only getting 100 units here in the US so I'm quite excited to have the opportunity to enjoy one. Will post pics once received.I wonder how many confirmed PH orders we have now? For a long time there was only 2 or 3 of us, but I'd guess we are up to more like 10-12 now?
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