Vantage tyres

[bigee]

Agree with this,will be fine.Thinking about it,it cant be any worse than say new tyres on front or rear and say half worn opposites.

[Dingle Dell]

telum01 said:

Yes, really. If you're just casually cruising around town, you probably won't notice the difference. But in spirited driving or quick maneuvers (say, a high-speed emergency situation), the differences can become apparent.
With extra-grippy tires in the rear, the fronts will lose traction first, resulting in understeer.
With extra-grippy tires in the front, the rears will lose traction first, resulting in oversteer.

That's a rather simplistic way of looking at it even if fundamentally correct.

However, you're not describing tyres of a different manufacturer there, but tyres with radically different performance characteristics i.e. premium tyres on the front and cheap Chinese ones on the back. So in that case, yes, you may notice the back is lively.

If you had premium tyres all around, then it will really not matter if the fronts are Michelin and the rears some other quality brand.

Edited by Dingle Dell on Wednesday 26th October 19:53

[davek_964]

Bumped because I think I need new tyres - I will do all 4 so no need to discuss mixing again.

I still have a fair amount of tread left so wasn't expecting to replace them quite so soon. However, now the weather has cooled down the car is not terribly happy on wet roads, and surprised me by sliding slightly as I came off a roundabout at the weekend - not particularly quickly. To be fair, it probably scared the transit driver in the outside lane more.

I remembered that the previous owner of my car did relatively low mileage so just checked the age of my tyres - the fronts are just over 6 years old, rears are about 5. Which probably explains why it tramlines so badly.

So, it's tyre time I think. I don't particularly like the Bridgestone, although I realise I'm not seeing them at their best. I do like Michelin on other cars, so are the PSS the best bet?

[divetheworld]

davek_964 said:

Bumped because I think I need new tyres - I will do all 4 so no need to discuss mixing again.

I still have a fair amount of tread left so wasn't expecting to replace them quite so soon. However, now the weather has cooled down the car is not terribly happy on wet roads, and surprised me by sliding slightly as I came off a roundabout at the weekend - not particularly quickly. To be fair, it probably scared the transit driver in the outside lane more.

I remembered that the previous owner of my car did relatively low mileage so just checked the age of my tyres - the fronts are just over 6 years old, rears are about 5. Which probably explains why it tramlines so badly.

So, it's tyre time I think. I don't particularly like the Bridgestone, although I realise I'm not seeing them at their best. I do like Michelin on other cars, so are the PSS the best bet?

New Michelin coming out in January I believe.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...

http://blog.caranddriver.com/michelin-launches-new...

[davek_964]

divetheworld said:

New Michelin coming out in January I believe.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...

http://blog.caranddriver.com/michelin-launches-new...

Excellent - thanks. I'll wait until I can get hold of some of them.

[Handyman2009]

Continental is also coming out with a competitor to the new Pilot Sports

http://www.continentaltire.com/news/extremecontact...

Just more option...

[divetheworld]

Handyman2009 said:

Continental is also coming out with a competitor to the new Pilot Sports

http://www.continentaltire.com/news/extremecontact...

Just more option...

They only just launched the sport contact 6 in the middle of this year. I hope the new tyre pushes the PSS4 harder than the 6 did against the PSS. It would be nice to get some really good tyres without having to resort to semi-slick types.

[Frances The Mute]

Handyman2009 said:

Continental is also coming out with a competitor to the new Pilot Sports

http://www.continentaltire.com/news/extremecontact...

Just more option...

That appears to be the North American market, only. Not Europe.

[davek_964]

divetheworld said:

Handyman2009 said:

Continental is also coming out with a competitor to the new Pilot Sports

http://www.continentaltire.com/news/extremecontact...

Just more option...

They only just launched the sport contact 6 in the middle of this year. I hope the new tyre pushes the PSS4 harder than the 6 did against the PSS. It would be nice to get some really good tyres without having to resort to semi-slick types.

Does semi slick apply to the PSS? I want good all-round use, including good wet weather performance. Decent grip and reasonable life is more important to me than outright dry weather grip - I'm not using the Vantage to try to break any lap records!

[divetheworld]

davek_964 said:

Does semi slick apply to the PSS? I want good all-round use, including good wet weather performance. Decent grip and reasonable life is more important to me than outright dry weather grip - I'm not using the Vantage to try to break any lap records!

No, I was intimating to the Cup and Corsa tyres that last 5000 miles. Oh they are an awesome 5k (dry or die) miles...... but still.
(IMHO) PSS are still the top kiddie until the jury comes in on the new PSS4 next year.

[HBradley]

divetheworld said:

davek_964 said:

Does semi slick apply to the PSS? I want good all-round use, including good wet weather performance. Decent grip and reasonable life is more important to me than outright dry weather grip - I'm not using the Vantage to try to break any lap records!

No, I was intimating to the Cup and Corsa tyres that last 5000 miles. Oh they are an awesome 5k (dry or die) miles...... but still.
(IMHO) PSS are still the top kiddie until the jury comes in on the new PSS4 next year.

Agree, coupled with a 'Fast Road' geo setup, they're excellent dry or wet!

[davek_964]

The car was sufficiently unhappy this morning that I decided I should forget waiting for the new type of tyres and simply fit PSS now. But....

The tyre place I usually use can get them - but wants £963.
Event tyres list them online but want £938.
Costco price is £810 - plus a current offer of £60 off for 4 tyres, bringing the total to under £800... but can't get fronts until 29th December (direct from Michelin).

He did say I could pay now and order, and get a refund if I get tired of waiting - so that I still get the £60 off. But I think Costco have offers often enough that's probably unnecessary.

I refuse to pay ~£150 more, so I think I will indeed be forced to wait and look around again in the new year.

[Ken Figenus]

I used ATS Cardiff with tyres supplied by Black Circles - there is a cracking fitter there called Stuart who is so on how to do it properly. £555 for two rears 20" 295.

[davek_964]

Black circles does come out a bit better ~£850 fitted. But I think I will wait until the new year and see if I can get some at Costco. Car can have a rest for a couple of months.

[DAVIDOXE]

Ken Figenus said:

I used ATS Cardiff with tyres supplied by Black Circles - there is a cracking fitter there called Stuart who is so on how to do it properly. £555 for two rears 20" 295.

I used ATS for a full set on mine. Superb job very careful photographed each wheel before starting and exactly a grand cheaper than the main dealer for exactly the same tyres!