2010 - 2012 DBS or 2013 DB 9.2 (Dubai) ?

2010 - 2012 DBS or 2013 DB 9.2 (Dubai) ?

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DanDXB

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4 posts

90 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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First time poster and Aston buyer here, having been lurking for a while reading as much as possible. Already bought Grant's book - great service and a mine of info.

I live in Dubai and the options that I am weighing up are 2010 - 2012 DBS (about GBP 65k and a few knocking around it seems) vs 2013 DB9.2 (about GBP 85k but trickier to get hands on one). All approx 30k KM on the clock and all coupes due to scarcity of volantes in these parts.

The 9.2 s I've seen are all beautiful throughout, feels pristine etc. The DBSes generally have a bit of wear and tear and have been driven harder or not looked after as well it seems.

Just after any views on the choice and any long term use of both as a comparison. From the drives I've done the DBSes (is that the right plural?) have seemed more muscular and visceral and fun but that could have been different days, roads traffic etc. The refinement and polish of the db9.2 inside is beguiling and I prefer the looks but am I right I'm thinking it just doesn't have that oomf?

Incidentally 2013 Vanquishes seem to be about GBP15 k more but I haven't even gone near that choice yet and the colours / trims are pretty lairy.

Any local members saying hello / insight into the market (like telling me I could do much better on price) also gratefully appreciated.

Cheers!




Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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I think you've pretty much summed it up yourself. The DBS is older and, whilst not guaranteed to have been abused, will almost certainly have more miles under its belt. It's more raw than the 9.2 and has a more aggressive muscular stance. The 9.2 will have better tech and looks much prettier.

If you can get a manual coupe DBS for the equivalent of £65k, then I'd grab it now, as that variant in the U.K. is currently achieving a premium. Most are going from £85k upwards.

12pack

1,539 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Would agree ^^ - except on the last point. I'm not sure we can extrapolate UK views on future values abroad. Certainly can't, e.g., to the U.S. where the DBS is well regarded but never going to command a premium like in the U.K.

avinalarf

6,438 posts

142 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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If you lived in the UK one might take the view that the DBS,especially a manual will keep or increase in value over the DB9.
However the expense of keeping the DBS up to scratch as an older car with possible large bills looming ,should be contemplated.
These comments may have other considerations if you live in Dubai.
The DB9.2 is on balance,going to be easier to live with and less problematic.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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12pack said:
Would agree ^^ - except on the last point. I'm not sure we can extrapolate UK views on future values abroad. Certainly can't, e.g., to the U.S. where the DBS is well regarded but never going to command a premium like in the U.K.
Good point.

DanDXB

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4 posts

90 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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All great points, and much appreciated. Have noticed that manual is actually worth less in this part of the world than auto. DBS prices here certainly haven't stayed as high as in the UK or even the US looking at the ads here and other places.

I've narrowed it down to two choices and will do another drive of each in the next few days right after each other and then make a choice:

- An immaculate 2009 DBS, 20k miles on the clock. 55k GBP plus another 6k to extend the warranty for two years (private sale).

- A similarly immaculate 2013 DB 9.2, also 20k miles on the clock. 90k GBP inclusive of 2 years warranty (from Aston here, who are Aston themselves as opposed to an authorised dealer.

Any more opinions gratefully received, including simple gut instincts.....! I'm a bit worried that the Db9.2 will take a big depreciation hit in the next couple of years compared to the DBS. But conversely that it might be harder to shift the DBS at all as there appear to be quite a lot knocking round in the market. I'm planning to hold for a couple of years then switch up to and 11 or could be tempted if a very good condition / colour combo 9.2 or vanquish volante comes along (could be forever out here).

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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I own a manual DBS but if I were in your position, then I think I'd plumb for the 9.2, as it seems to be a more popular option over there with a greater likelihood of moving it on once you've spotted something else you like. If residuals are as poor as they seem, the only reason to get the DBS would be for pure driving pleasure. Having driven the 9GT, there's not a great deal in it.

DanDXB

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4 posts

90 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Thanks again. I sort of thought that the consensus would be to get the DBS if it's in the same condition, due to the GBP 28k price difference for the four years but zero miles and no cosmetic wear and tear between them. Or does that sound about the right differential in price? I thought perhaps the DBS had done most of its depreciating to get down to under 60k, and I would take a lower hit in a year or two on it.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

176 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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DanDXB said:
Thanks again. I sort of thought that the consensus would be to get the DBS if it's in the same condition, due to the GBP 28k price difference for the four years but zero miles and no cosmetic wear and tear between them. Or does that sound about the right differential in price? I thought perhaps the DBS had done most of its depreciating to get down to under 60k, and I would take a lower hit in a year or two on it.
Of course the DBS will save you lots of money as compared to the DB9.2. Buy the DBS.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Actually, I've just re-read your post and noted the comparative prices. Buy the DBS, why wouldn't you?

hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Bincenzo said:
Actually, I've just re-read your post and noted the comparative prices. Buy the DBS, why wouldn't you?
Yep, that is a massive price difference

DanDXB

Original Poster:

4 posts

90 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Just to round off the thread, I made the (perhaps surprising) choice of the 2013 DB9 in Skyfall Silver / Chancellor Red. The DBS was beautiful and I'm still a bit in love with it, but for a first Aston - and driving them back to back - the newer car just spoke to me a bit more and I managed to get it down to a more decent price.

I also took a last minute crazy flight of fancy and nearly got a hardly driven Cobalt Blue 2014 Vanquish with the exposed carbon roof instead, but my gut reaction was that it was just a bit too much car for me right now and that my first should be a classic. Thanks all.

Tried to add photos but they all came out sideways in the preview....

hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Congratulations - there was no bad choice here.

You will get a Vanquish soon enough I suspect though smile

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Well done Dan, a wonderful position to be in with the choices available. Pictures please!

Navyatco

118 posts

162 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Hi Dan and congrats on getting the DB9. I have lived in Dubai for the last 7 years and had Astons (DB7VV and now V8V) for the last 5 of them; I am also the secretary of the AMOC UAE - pm me if you'd like to know more.

As for Aston Martin out here - they are not AM in the way you would think. The dealership is actually part of a franchise, owned separately to AM, but by members of the same (majority shareholder) family. The AM set-up in the MENA (Middle East & N. Africa) region is complicated and not easily followed - for instance, the dealership is a separate entity to the Service Centre....

When it comes to looking after your car, although labour costs are comparable with UK, beware that - for parts - AM (MENA) charge about 3 times what the same part would cost in UK.

Best of luck with your new DB9,

regards, Ray.

Navyatco

118 posts

162 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Hi Dan, I did reply to your email (via yr personal email address), hope you got it?

Gavc

225 posts

133 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Hi I am in Dubai in a few weeks with work, I have a couple of days spare, is there anything worth doing car wise, last time I was here I did see the Aston dealer, this time I might call in and have a looks, have a friday and saturday off, though not sure if they are open then. Any advice welcome