Spitfire down

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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Looks like there was a mishap at the launch event.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3851694/Dr...

Hopefully everyone is ok.

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Oh dear. They really are stunning those spitfire editions love the colour.

Willhire89

1,328 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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It was not one of the Spitfire AM's but a white Vantage from Jardines

I was passing the aerodrome just as Manchetts (local recovery agent) were removing the car with the front all covered in a blue tarpaulin.

Another report commented that the driver left the car unaided but the passenger was extricated and that he was Duxford's ATC and that they were on an initial recce.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-new...

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Well, just very glad that nobody was badly injured. I had thought it was one of the eight limited editions.....which would have been a little awkward to say the least.

Willhire89

1,328 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Actually I hear he's not that well - cracked vertebrae and internal injuries. Quite a long road to recovery

RampantArmadillo

19 posts

141 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Anyone know what happened, exactly regarding the cause of the accodent?

Driver was a pro, apparently, but i dont see details of how he lost the car (in such a relatively safe environment). Im not casting aspersions, just wonder if there were other factors involved, and the specifics of the incident arent being reported.

AMDBSVNick

6,993 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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RampantArmadillo said:
Anyone know what happened, exactly regarding the cause of the accodent?

Driver was a pro, apparently, but i dont see details of how he lost the car (in such a relatively safe environment). Im not casting aspersions, just wonder if there were other factors involved, and the specifics of the incident arent being reported.
Why exactly would you want to know the specifics confused

RampantArmadillo

19 posts

141 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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AMDBSVNick said:
Why exactly would you want to know the specifics confused
I guess i'm the inquisitive type.

It seems odd to me that the reportage thus far doesnt explain what happened, precisely.


AMDBSVNick

6,993 posts

162 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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RampantArmadillo said:
I guess i'm the inquisitive type.

It seems odd to me that the reportage thus far doesnt explain what happened, precisely.
Because it's none of their business!!!

RampantArmadillo

19 posts

141 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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AMDBSVNick said:
Because it's none of their business!!!
Not sure why you're so bent out of shape, chief..

Since youre determined to bash shields.. "None of their business"? You could hardly be more wrong..

Press report on events. That is their business.
This, a media event, presumably had numerous press folk in attendance.

The rest is trivially obvious.

This incident was, obviously, not within the expected manifest for the day.. but if our press only reported what the powers that be approved, the world would be a dark place, indeed.

Honestly, its much stranger not to wonder what happened, in my view.

J12KJR

2,860 posts

243 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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From the experience that someone I know had when checking out the runway at Duxford prior to TVR using it for their Mania experience, he was lucky and just covered a long distance on the grass at the end of the runway with no damage or injury.
I would suggest that as the runway has no real reference points for braking combined with a cold damp surface and a V12S on Corsa tyres it would be easy to get it wrong when showing the cars capabilities.
Hope the person from Duxford makes a full and swift recovery.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

138 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Had my biggest 'moment' the other morning.
Probably going a little too quickly for the cold damp morning, dropped into 5th at about 69mph (!) to over take and lost the back end in a rather big way, thankfully I just managed to hold onto it. Corsa's are down to 3mm which probably didn't help (new ones being fitted next week).
These cars can bite and things happen very quickly.

Jon39

12,820 posts

143 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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northernmedia said:
Had my biggest 'moment' the other morning.

Glad to hear that you kept control.

I always keep the electronic 'gubbins' switched on with my car.
I don't know how you prefer to set your ESP, but just interested to know whether you think the electronics can assist in the circumstances that you describe?

When I experience the electronics activating, there is a brief jolt when tyre grip is lost, and then normality returns.






Edited by Jon39 on Friday 21st October 09:58

northernmedia

1,988 posts

138 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Everything was turned on.
It let go in a split second, aggressively pushing the back end to the right towards the central reservation (I presume down to camber).
TC light flashing it cut the power just in time for me to pull it straight. Not a pleasant experience. Convinced I was about to spin.
Just every now and again we need a 'warning' to keep us in check eh.
Michael Schumacher I am not.

Flugplatz

1,952 posts

245 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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northernmedia said:
Corsa's are down to 3mm which probably didn't help (new ones being fitted next week).
Dont fit Corsas now. Winter is the time for standard P Zero's.

The difference is night and day. smile

james-witton

1,363 posts

107 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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northernmedia said:
Had my biggest 'moment' the other morning.
Probably going a little too quickly for the cold damp morning, dropped into 5th at about 69mph (!) to over take and lost the back end in a rather big way, thankfully I just managed to hold onto it. Corsa's are down to 3mm which probably didn't help (new ones being fitted next week).
These cars can bite and things happen very quickly.
Had a very similar experience just a few days back. I was really surprised at how 'aggressive' the ESP corrected the back end.

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Mate's V V12 was wheelspinning in 3d in a stright line on a pretty std cold wet winter day with no provocation - Corsas and cold and wet dont mix!

CSK1

1,601 posts

124 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Flugplatz said:
Dont fit Corsas now. Winter is the time for standard P Zero's.

The difference is night and day. smile
Or Pirelli Sottozero's which is the approved AML winter tyre for the V12 Vantage/V12 Vantage S.

@northernmedia: Did you have the Sport button on? I never drive in Sport mode in the wet, the throttle is much more sensitive which is nice in the dry but not so in the wet as I experienced going sideways on the motorway while it rained.

12pack

1,539 posts

168 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Interesting to hear from V12VS owners as well as V12V. During my test drive the salesperson kept pushing how much more stable the S is in the wet - couldn't really tell myself as it was a lovely warm, dry day.

I guess this comes down to the tyres as the limiting factor...

DavidV12V

150 posts

159 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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I am normally careful in the wet but had a similar scare two weeks ago on the autobahn from Berlin to Lübeck....was a bit damp and doing about 100, normally keep the car in 6th to minimise the chance or wheel spin, etc. when doing speed in the damp.But this guy was taking a long time to get out of the fast lane and so when he did, dropped it a gear or two...next thing starting to go sideways.

Foot off the power, or the electronics kicked in (I suspect it was the electronics as I'm not that good as demonstrated by the fact it was starting to go sideways in the first place) and it righted itself...to say the wife sat next to me and the Armco was not very pleased is an understatement...has happened before but seems I have the memory of a goldfish.