V12S in TRACK mode for Road use...

V12S in TRACK mode for Road use...

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Flugplatz

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1,952 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Having read a recent response here from someone who had had a test drive in the V12SM demonstrator and stated that they preferred it in TRACK suspension mode I have been trying it too.

WOW!!!!!!!!

Just amazing.

Car is very very different.

Having come from GT3's its just like that really but I think we have all got used to driving in soft or sport when Track is where the action is.


C997

529 posts

167 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Yup, mine will be in track the majority of the time I think. Very impressive when you come from the original V12V.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Not really at the same level but I always drive my DBS with the suspension and DSC in track mode. It's much more stable and doesn't fishtail everywhere with the DSC grabbing at the rears to keep it straight.

robgt3

2,585 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Bincenzo said:
Not really at the same level but I always drive my DBS with the suspension and DSC in track mode. It's much more stable and doesn't fishtail everywhere with the DSC grabbing at the rears to keep it straight.
Oh Dear!

CSK1

1,612 posts

125 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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I think the Track suspension mode is best used on perfectly smooth roads. The Sport suspension setting is a good compromise.
I leave DSC constantly on, several V12VS owners have had a moment with DSC on so for road use I would advise not to touch that button.
The instructor at my PDC told me that the Aston's DSC is very permissive so if the system sets in it means that you've done something wrong and it needs to set in. I don't know if that makes sense but from my limited experience I think the instructor is right.

12pack

1,549 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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From a previous post:
"Well, you certainly have to know what you're doing before you push the 'wrong button' ...or you'll have to go fetch the wheel."
https://youtu.be/Kdf1mXpyE1Q

cayman-black

12,662 posts

217 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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12pack said:
From a previous post:
"Well, you certainly have to know what you're doing before you push the 'wrong button' ...or you'll have to go fetch the wheel."
https://youtu.be/Kdf1mXpyE1Q
Wow. The chap took that well though. What a mess. Flug be careful.

CSK1

1,612 posts

125 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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The guy seems to think it's funny, I can't see anything funny him crashing a car. For sure he is stupid, wanting to show off and ending in a crash, he demonstrates he is a poor driver, he should go and do a PDC. I think you have to show some humility with these cars, if you think you're Schumacher, it's going to end like this one day! Or even worse!

Edited by CSK1 on Thursday 27th October 10:36

northernmedia

1,988 posts

139 months

12pack

1,549 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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northernmedia said:
I did that too just the other day - but not on purpose....smile

L0TT0

2,465 posts

153 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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robgt3 said:
Bincenzo said:
Not really at the same level but I always drive my DBS with the suspension and DSC in track mode. It's much more stable and doesn't fishtail everywhere with the DSC grabbing at the rears to keep it straight.
Oh Dear!
Bit confused here......
Bins .... cannot quite understand why you need to drive yours in that set up. I find the DBS so much stable than my old V12V and whilst it is well documented that I "drive like a girl" I think you know me well enough to know how I drive. The recent Monaco trip showed me - again - just how capable the DBS is as an all round car. I don't think I used anything other than SPORT. And that was only to make the throttle response position on the pedal more comfortable when doing the Alps. I certainly never suffer from fish tailing or DSC light flashing on.

And Rob - why "oh dear" ?

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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L0TT0 said:
Bit confused here......
Bins .... cannot quite understand why you need to drive yours in that set up. I find the DBS so much stable than my old V12V and whilst it is well documented that I "drive like a girl" I think you know me well enough to know how I drive. The recent Monaco trip showed me - again - just how capable the DBS is as an all round car. I don't think I used anything other than SPORT. And that was only to make the throttle response position on the pedal more comfortable when doing the Alps. I certainly never suffer from fish tailing or DSC light flashing on.

And Rob - why "oh dear" ?
Tone, if you drive like a girl, what was ! ?????

Answers on a postcard, please.

Rob, you been on the sauce again?

Ken Figenus

5,714 posts

118 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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OMG - wont sleep tonight now! WHAT was that scruff-pot Rapide driver thinking - well other than really zo cool showing off?

I regularly drive mine with the 'anti tw@ttery' button pushed in (and then held in for 5") as I agree the man should control the car rather then the car controlling the man. Its truly a sublimely balanced family hatchback! No emasculating nanny state technology needed! But even in a GT3 RS (with a plastic non saucy dash Robbiggrin ) if you go into a corner too fast then guess what happens! And then blame Aston for having a DSC button!

Hope he got a tenner for the wheel on Ebay though ;-)

quench

503 posts

147 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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You guys must have some smooooooth roads. Using the firmest suspension setting on some of the roads around here would mean getting spat off into the nearest ditch at the first whiff of enthusiastic driving. As for DSC, having all the aids fully on only compromises hard acceleration if you are driving sanely and competently on the road - it shouldn't be interfering with cornering. DSC in 'Trac' mode is great for circuit driving. It is not at all intrusive, and I firmly believe that when it activates, it is telling me that I am f*@king things up, not the car.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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L0TT0 said:
robgt3 said:
Bincenzo said:
Not really at the same level but I always drive my DBS with the suspension and DSC in track mode. It's much more stable and doesn't fishtail everywhere with the DSC grabbing at the rears to keep it straight.
Oh Dear!
Bit confused here......
Bins .... cannot quite understand why you need to drive yours in that set up. I find the DBS so much stable than my old V12V and whilst it is well documented that I "drive like a girl" I think you know me well enough to know how I drive. The recent Monaco trip showed me - again - just how capable the DBS is as an all round car. I don't think I used anything other than SPORT. And that was only to make the throttle response position on the pedal more comfortable when doing the Alps. I certainly never suffer from fish tailing or DSC light flashing on.

And Rob - why "oh dear" ?
I've no idea then Tony, but it feels significantly more trustworthy in that mode. Maybe I need to look at tyres and geo.

Cockernee

3,059 posts

161 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Jockman said:
L0TT0 said:
Bit confused here......
Bins .... cannot quite understand why you need to drive yours in that set up. I find the DBS so much stable than my old V12V and whilst it is well documented that I "drive like a girl" I think you know me well enough to know how I drive. The recent Monaco trip showed me - again - just how capable the DBS is as an all round car. I don't think I used anything other than SPORT. And that was only to make the throttle response position on the pedal more comfortable when doing the Alps. I certainly never suffer from fish tailing or DSC light flashing on.

And Rob - why "oh dear" ?
Tone, if you drive like a girl, what was ! ?????

Answers on a postcard, please.

Rob, you been on the sauce again?
Tony, you do drive like a girl smile Jockers, a tart biggrin and there are no words to describe Bins wink

However, I find TC in all cars very intrusive at the basic level and being able to modulate your right foot is the best TC you can have IMHO. Sport as a minimum, track mostly unless the weather is particularly poor. The driving experience in these modes far outweighs the risks, unless you simply cannot drive a powerful rear wheel drive car. Being able to balance the throttle without a slight bump mid corner causing the TC to interfere is at best annoying, at worst it destroys the fun. Do we not own these type of cars for the fun and not the software developers idea of what is and what is not safe? Try it, you may just enjoy it and you may just realise that all of these electronic aids are not really necessary, they have just made us all lazy.

Ken Figenus

5,714 posts

118 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Flugplatz said:
WOW! No little yellow lights saying 'I saved your from crashingrolleyes' ! Amazing clip!

Flugplatz

Original Poster:

1,952 posts

246 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Ken Figenus said:
WOW! No little yellow lights saying 'I saved your from crashingrolleyes' ! Amazing clip!
Here is the closest I can find to a spirited drive for us on Corsas mid january with dsc OFF biggrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jF__B1xpJY

Ken Figenus

5,714 posts

118 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Ohh my good God! He was wheelspinning and slewing sideways in 4th on the straights! Extreme. I'd have been crying for a traction control button to switch on!!! The 'interview' video shows external shots - incredible.

What tyres was it really on I wonder biggrin

JBaps

214 posts

126 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Jeeze! What a crazy idea! Uk roads are generally far too bumpy for track mode, basically outside of having a bit of fun at low speed on a completely empty road you're just asking for a repair bill, or worse. Rapid progress is better had at softer settings, unless you're a superstar behind the wheel, that is, a real superstars behind the wheel instead of one of those that realises they're not as they sit in a ditch at the side of the road, hopefully without having collected anyone else on the way.....

....Ok, I have history here, refers to widget free 996 GT3 that is pictured in my profile, that flattered, until it didn't, even though I was aware of how twitchy it could be on bumpy roads....

->shock<-