No negotiation at dealer
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blueg33 said:
foxsasha said:
You've been looking for a year and have finally found the right car for you but you'd lose it for the sake of a relatively insignificant amount of money because of the principle? What principle? Just buy it and enjoy!
I agree except that the price is a bit "toppy"
Juggsy said:
""The best bit was then he tried to sell me a brand new car with an 'amazing finance deal'. Yeah I'm debating £44k so sell me a car for £90k instead. Had to laugh at that one for trying it on!""
That sounds like every estate agent I have had dealings with. Slightly different figures but the same cr*p.
""The best bit was then he tried to sell me a brand new car with an 'amazing finance deal'. Yeah I'm debating £44k so sell me a car for £90k instead. Had to laugh at that one for trying it on!""
That sounds like every estate agent I have had dealings with. Slightly different figures but the same cr*p.
I have had dealings with Stratstone and Grange with my last two Vantages, both were reluctant to adjust screen price but they both offered top money for the Aston I was part exchanging, almost retail in both cases. As someone has already mentioned the price to swop is the most important figure and if you can get a few extras it's a bonus!
Ian.
Ian.
foxsasha said:
blueg33 said:
foxsasha said:
You've been looking for a year and have finally found the right car for you but you'd lose it for the sake of a relatively insignificant amount of money because of the principle? What principle? Just buy it and enjoy!
I agree except that the price is a bit "toppy"Stay on this forum and you will easily return that money in vehicular savings.
Hang out with the wrong 'uns though and you'll end up an alcoholic face down on the floor of a soho bar.
Jockman said:
I'm minded to agree with you.
Stay on this forum and you will easily return that money in vehicular savings.
Hang out with the wrong 'uns though and you'll end up an alcoholic face down on the floor of a soho bar.
PMSL Stay on this forum and you will easily return that money in vehicular savings.
Hang out with the wrong 'uns though and you'll end up an alcoholic face down on the floor of a soho bar.
Although I bet he would fight like a Terrier to save £4 on a mobile phone monthly contract - like any self respecting man 
NeinFondue said:
Jockman said:
Hang out with the wrong 'uns though and you'll end up an alcoholic face down on the floor of a soho bar.
You've obviously figured that bit out... Next will be "vehicular savings"? 
Never saved enough for a decent mattress though
Interesting, I missed out by a day, a 57 plate Roadster from this group recently, because I wasn't prepared to commit until I had confirmation of the sale of one of my other cars. I felt the Roadster was very competitively priced, up to £5000 cheaper than similar age / mileage cars from other AM dealers, and at least £1000 cheaper than a couple of 'Fred in the Sheds' (all be it £2 / 3 million sheds) The Roadster came with a one year AM Timeless warranty, full AM dealer service history, and about every factory option available including N400 side sills. I knew the car was exceptional value and would not have expected them to have negotiated on the price, but would have tried for an extended warranty.
Edited by Pitcombe on Monday 6th February 21:01
At the end of the day they need you and your money more than you need them so best plicy when they are being tight arses is to simply walk out the door and go elsewhere as PLENTY of others on offer at PLENTY of other dealers both Main and specialist.
juggsy said:
Hi folks, hoping to get a bit of insight and experiences. I've been looking at getting a used (07-08) V8V roadster tor a little while and an AM dealer alerted me to one meeting the spec I was looking for. After a bit of back and forth it seemed to meet the bill, but was slightly more than I was willing to pay when taking into account a P/X.
So when we got talking about price, I was told in no uncertain terms that there was no negotiation on the sticker price at all, as all prices were set (and monitored) by head office, and updated daily to represent 'absolute value'.
This all sounded like sales spiel, and I'm a bit surprised a main dealer has no autonomy on the price of their cars, I was hoping for some wriggle room for a deal before Christmas.
Is this the experience of others, do AM main dealers not negotiate at all, the price you see is the price you pay? Any insight and experience welcome as I'd like to gauge whether they are just playing hardball or if it's futile to bother negotistkng. Maybe it's just down to the dealer group I'm dealing with (without naming/shaming this is the group owned by writing instrument-mythical creature )
So when we got talking about price, I was told in no uncertain terms that there was no negotiation on the sticker price at all, as all prices were set (and monitored) by head office, and updated daily to represent 'absolute value'.
This all sounded like sales spiel, and I'm a bit surprised a main dealer has no autonomy on the price of their cars, I was hoping for some wriggle room for a deal before Christmas.
Is this the experience of others, do AM main dealers not negotiate at all, the price you see is the price you pay? Any insight and experience welcome as I'd like to gauge whether they are just playing hardball or if it's futile to bother negotistkng. Maybe it's just down to the dealer group I'm dealing with (without naming/shaming this is the group owned by writing instrument-mythical creature
)
I have had so many poor buying experiences with Stratstones that I dont buy from them anymore, I once walked away from a deal on a Range Rover Sport, second hand admittedly but still 40k, over the fact that they wouldnt throw in a full set of rubber mats.
And when I say I walked away, that was after a test drive and a full 30 minutes at the salesmans desk over tea negotiating. All they offer is a poor explanation that there isnt the margin in it sir! They either hideously overpay for stock or buy bad stock that needs a lot doing through the workshop prior to sale, or possibly they are making huge profit margins!
And when I say I walked away, that was after a test drive and a full 30 minutes at the salesmans desk over tea negotiating. All they offer is a poor explanation that there isnt the margin in it sir! They either hideously overpay for stock or buy bad stock that needs a lot doing through the workshop prior to sale, or possibly they are making huge profit margins!
Rapid rental said:
I have had so many poor buying experiences with Stratstones that I dont buy from them anymore, I once walked away from a deal on a Range Rover Sport, second hand admittedly but still 40k, over the fact that they wouldnt throw in a full set of rubber mats.
And when I say I walked away, that was after a test drive and a full 30 minutes at the salesmans desk over tea negotiating. All they offer is a poor explanation that there isnt the margin in it sir! They either hideously overpay for stock or buy bad stock that needs a lot doing through the workshop prior to sale, or possibly they are making huge profit margins!
In those 30 minutes, what else was negotiated apart from the mats?And when I say I walked away, that was after a test drive and a full 30 minutes at the salesmans desk over tea negotiating. All they offer is a poor explanation that there isnt the margin in it sir! They either hideously overpay for stock or buy bad stock that needs a lot doing through the workshop prior to sale, or possibly they are making huge profit margins!
Car mad enthusiast said:
At the end of the day they need you and your money more than you need them so best plicy when they are being tight arses is to simply walk out the door and go elsewhere as PLENTY of others on offer at PLENTY of other dealers both Main and specialist
For a bog standard model, sure. But if it is a desirable spec then they will have multiple sellers queueing up.Just spotted this thread.
Seems a strange subject to me. They have a car and a price that they're willing to accept. You want a car and have a price you want to pay.
If they match, happy days. If they don't you go your separate ways. There's nothing personal or insulting in any of that, surely?
Seems a strange subject to me. They have a car and a price that they're willing to accept. You want a car and have a price you want to pay.
If they match, happy days. If they don't you go your separate ways. There's nothing personal or insulting in any of that, surely?
juggsy said:
I was told in no uncertain terms that there was no negotiation on the sticker price at all, as all prices were set (and monitored) by head office, and updated daily to represent 'absolute value'.
"Here's the price I am prepared to pay. I will buy the car right now for that price".
"Sorry sir, there is no negotiation".
"Bye then".
And we all know that's a load of BS. If that were the case they would never have to advertise them would they??? and the dealership w=showrooms would be EMPTY because of this huge que of customers waiting to buy them all up as you mentioned. LMAO
hyphen said:
For a bog standard model, sure. But if it is a desirable spec then they will have multiple sellers queueing up.
Ex Boy Racer said:
Just spotted this thread.
Seems a strange subject to me. They have a car and a price that they're willing to accept. You want a car and have a price you want to pay.
If they match, happy days. If they don't you go your separate ways. There's nothing personal or insulting in any of that, surely?
Agreed.Seems a strange subject to me. They have a car and a price that they're willing to accept. You want a car and have a price you want to pay.
If they match, happy days. If they don't you go your separate ways. There's nothing personal or insulting in any of that, surely?
This seems entirely reasonable to me.
I bought my V8V from Grange. I ended up paying the asking price but got the next service free and a few minor blemishes corrected as well as the usual year's AM warranty.
Overall a pleasant buying experience.
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