New AMOC website

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jeyjey

220 posts

97 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Um, wow, that new website is brutal.

And Russel's spidey man is gone.... grumpy

Cheers,
Jeff.

David W.

1,908 posts

209 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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DB7 for ever said:
Elitist clicky clubs like AMOC always go about things the hard way and never learn by their mistakes but like to charge its members OTT prices for the privilidge of putting up with it. Must be why lots don't re-new as had enough.

They should take a leaf out of Forest Gump's book, as his Momma used to say, " simple is as simple does". ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

LMAO
Having been members of "Elitist clicky" clubs I can assure you AMOC hardy registers on that scale.

steeviegeebies

196 posts

145 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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A few simple updates and it'd be ok again.
E.g.:
1. 'unread posts' listed by most recent first
2. 'participated topics' by most recent first
3. Instant access to main sections list - with more items per page (the boxes and other style over substance aren't needed)
4. Make the comments boxes bigger so more content is fitted on each page.
5. Essential it works on Tapatalk. AMOC has to recognise the vast majority of people these days access t'internet via mobile devices not computers.
6. Replace pilchards - they were a recognition of other members appreciation of your contribution to the topic / thanks for help / appreciation of your wit / etc. Maybe if 'likes' accumulated like pilchards it'd work just as well. Plus they should transpose the number of likes for each person across from the old forum to the new one. I'm running out of jokes and can never get back to my previous level!

I guess the new forum's capacity means easier access but that's self-resolved now that people aren't bothering anyway.

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I had been using it less and less over the last year anyway (and usually just to check-in on Russell's wit). So sounds like it's safe to leave it another month or two until the new site is properly bedded in.

I'm sure they'll get there eventually though, in the meantime we've got PH smile

AstonZagato

12,700 posts

210 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I have written to the Chairman suggesting that something needs to be done - very urgently - to sort it out.

Y100

2,036 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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AstonZagato said:
I have written to the Chairman suggesting that something needs to be done - very urgently - to sort it out.
A-Z that's fine and thank you. But surely our Chairman should be posting up, to all that are looking, interested and have managed to log on, re-assuring posts offering both an apology and an explanation for the mess and a realistic prognosis.

old phart

404 posts

110 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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steeviegeebies said:
A few simple updates and it'd be ok again.

6. Replace pilchards - they were a recognition of other members appreciation of your contribution to the topic / thanks for help / appreciation of your wit / etc. Maybe if 'likes' accumulated like pilchards it'd work just as well. Plus they should transpose the number of likes for each person across from the old forum to the new one. I'm running out of jokes and can never get back to my previous level!
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I like the idea of 'throwing him a fish'. I tried to log on and got an error and couldn't reset password. Emailed webmaster and taken care of within 24 hours.
When I first was looking to become an Aston owner I expected it to be the go to site for owners. I quickly found out threads died quickly with little response. I like the new look and wish them the best. I'm sure they'll sort it out. One of the main reasons I moved on was that non-members couldn't post pics. Yes I realize it is the website for the official club but if you want to build your base you need to welcome the non-club member owners too.
Kind of get the same feeling I did when I first visited a Starbucks. Was intimidated by the menu and afraid I might say the wrong thing. A bit more formal over there. I still visit about once a week and will continue to do so.

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I have actually just checked it out, more from curiosity given the comments above. It looks quite slick and professional in many ways.

But has one monumental flaw which would lead me to question who built it and how much time they've spent on forums in the past. That flaw is that you can't see a list of recent posts (or not that I could find). I'm not a software developer but I imagine that should have been easy to include from day 1.

Why is that a major flaw (imho)? When you think about it, its being able to see a list like that that creates the forum "community" - by seeing recently active threads people can post their own thoughts on live and interesting topics, which then becomes circular and gives the sense of online conversation. Without that community, the forum becomes a dry and dusty archive.I don't want to search a whole series of sub-folders to find the latest threads and nor does anyone else.

PH has the benefit that, every time you log-in to the Aston Martin section it shows you the list of recently active topics as everything is sorted by date of last posting, rather than tucked away in sub-folders.

AMOC need to correct that urgently in the next few weeks or risk the on-line community there disappearing

DB7 for ever

571 posts

87 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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All the very best of luck with that one. LOL
AstonZagato said:
I have written to the Chairman suggesting that something needs to be done - very urgently - to sort it out.

RichB

51,567 posts

284 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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IanV12VR said:
...I like the look of it and I think it is a huge improvement but as with all things it will take time to get used to it and will improve as it goes along.
Normally agree with you Ian but on this one you're on your own I'm afraid. It's shocking! eek

Why, oh why, do IT geeks always try to reinvent the wheel just to show how clever they are? And fail massively! There are plenty of free to use forums available that function perfectly.

Please tell me the club didn't pay for that bugger's muddle? rofl

AstonZagato

12,700 posts

210 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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DB7 for ever said:
All the very best of luck with that one. LOL
AstonZagato said:
I have written to the Chairman suggesting that something needs to be done - very urgently - to sort it out.
I live in hope...

Derek 111S

103 posts

240 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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If a web site re-launch is this difficult, what chance a new Global HQ?

Y100

2,036 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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AstonZagato said:
I live in hope...
Not wishing to be defeatist AZ but there is so much wrong with the new site it is going to take forever to fix. Even for an eternal optimist like me, I would cut my losses now and bin it. Then if possible, temporarily re-open the old site and start again with a new site using one of the free to use tested and fully functonal forums available,,,quicker, cheaper and far far less frustrating for the members wishing to use it.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

176 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Y100 said:
AstonZagato said:
I live in hope...
Not wishing to be defeatist AZ but there is so much wrong with the new site it is going to take forever to fix. Even for an eternal optimist like me, I would cut my losses now and bin it. Then if possible, temporarily re-open the old site and start again with a new site using one of the free to use tested and fully functonal forums available,,,quicker, cheaper and far far less frustrating for the members wishing to use it.
Binning the web site is not necessary; it looks/works pretty good to me. What needs fixing is the forum portion, which could use one of the standard add on forums as you suggest.

old phart

404 posts

110 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
Binning the web site is not necessary; it looks/works pretty good to me. What needs fixing is the forum portion, which could use one of the standard add on forums as you suggest.
Agree. I believe they wanted to polish it up a bit as befitting the brand. I just hope they aren't too proud to go to outside for assistance. I'm in the tech world and there are times when the old guard tries to freshen things up but refuses help. "I did it before and I can figure it out".

RichB

51,567 posts

284 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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old phart said:
I just hope they aren't too proud to go to outside for assistance.
The site was built by a 3rd party IT consultancy.

AstonZagato

12,700 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Y100 said:
AstonZagato said:
I live in hope...
Not wishing to be defeatist AZ but there is so much wrong with the new site it is going to take forever to fix. Even for an eternal optimist like me, I would cut my losses now and bin it. Then if possible, temporarily re-open the old site and start again with a new site using one of the free to use tested and fully functonal forums available,,,quicker, cheaper and far far less frustrating for the members wishing to use it.
I strongly suggested rolling back to the old forum until this mess can be cleared up.

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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RichB said:
The site was built by a 3rd party IT consultancy.

Perhaps involved with all those government IT contracts, which were eventually ditched, following enormous expenditure.

They kept on saying, "Just one more revamp and it will be fine".








Bobajobbob

1,438 posts

96 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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The new site is marginally better than before but still looks like it was designed by a refugee from MySpace circa 1998. The forum has obviously been designed to look good on a phone or tablet with no thought given to the actual usability and most likely use cases. Typical consultancy copy/paste identikit rubbish. There are a multitude of free open source solutions out there that would look and work better.

old phart

404 posts

110 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Perhaps a well worded tweet to Dr. Palmer. If he see's it as enhancing the brand he may assist.
I mean after he's done with his daily DB11 inspections. wink