F Type more beautiful than a Vantage???

[shunt]

Have any Aston V8V owners ever driven an F Type V8S? It's not all about the styling. Swapping my V8V was a tough call after 6 years but the best decision I've made in years.

The one and only thing I miss is knowing I own an Aston. But I've done that now ànd it's time to move on.

My F makes me smile every time I start it, the trip to work today with the roof down.... I cannot wait for summer to land.

I'd love a V12VR but sadly I don't own any red cords or have those sort of funds available. Cars depreciate, they are rarely àn investment, I'm happy someone else took that hit for me.

New BMW S1000R arrives next Wednesday, that will àlso depreciate but I'll enjoy it.

To paraphrase a popular saying "You're only here for a short time not a st time",or something like that. ;@)

[MasterBlaster]

After owning a ‘94 Porsche 993 for nearly 19 years, the rise in appreciation has now peaked my interest into swapping it for an F-type V8 R or an older depreciated V8 vantage S
Having driven both, the Jag was fun, but the Aston has that exclusitivity touch, and in my opinion, looks slightly better. I would consider a paddle shift on either car. As I would keep the car long term, what what be the better option regarding running costs? The repair and service costs of the Aston if off putting, but depreciation would be less? Is the Aston reliable?
My 993 has been solid from day 1 and never let me down, would I regret selling? I’d appreciate your opinions, on this thread many of you have owned both......

[avinalarf]

Id keep the 993.
You know the car, it's sorted, it's a classic Porsche.
If you have an itch that must be scratched I'd go for the Vantage.
For exclusivity, looks, will hold value better than Jag.

Edited by avinalarf on Saturday 28th July 14:48

[macdeb]

As for thread title, it just doesn't register as the Jag can't hold a candle to a Vantage. There is a very nice Jag F type 'R' parked at work and I occasionally go in my Vantage. Now, I may be biased but when I come out into the car park, I never once wish I was walking towards the Jag. The Vantage is beautiful from any angle and there is not a single panel I would change. The Jag however is awkward in places and just doesn't quite do it.
Question was asked in title, gave my answer for what it's worth.

[Wayne95]

You must own the 993 by now. Take out finance and buy a v8 Vantage

Of all the cars I’ve had that would buy again other than the V12V would be my 993. Had 200k on the clock was rock solid after a engine and suspension rebuild. Was my daily for 2 years - great in the snow - put another 25k on it

Both in my garage would be nirvana

[quench]

MasterBlaster said:

My 993 has been solid from day 1 and never let me down, would I regret selling?

Please don't get rid of the 993. It's the last of the air cooled 911's, and it's compact and light in a way current cars can only dream of...

[Buster73]

The retractable spoiler on the oily rag spoils the look of the car when deployed.

I’ve forgotten how good looking the Vantage must have been when first introduced.

When I bought my N430 , the Jag never even popped up on the radar to even go and have a look at never mind road test.

[AstonV]

MasterBlaster said:

After owning a ‘94 Porsche 993 for nearly 19 years, the rise in appreciation has now peaked my interest into swapping it for an F-type V8 R or an older depreciated V8 vantage S
Having driven both, the Jag was fun, but the Aston has that exclusitivity touch, and in my opinion, looks slightly better. I would consider a paddle shift on either car. As I would keep the car long term, what what be the better option regarding running costs? The repair and service costs of the Aston if off putting, but depreciation would be less? Is the Aston reliable?
My 993 has been solid from day 1 and never let me down, would I regret selling? I’d appreciate your opinions, on this thread many of you have owned both......

I have owned an S-type R from new, so can't really compare from and F-type, but it has never had any major issues, maintenance is no more costly than your average Ford, at least for me. Just fluid changes, brakes, tires etc, normal things and not expensive. I own a 2015 V8V and it's just really a special car, but not enough miles yet, everything you read is they are basically bullet proof, maintenance costs are much higher. The Jaguar is going to be much more comfortable on long road trips.

The Jaguar will depreciate down to basically nothing and the Aston will always hold a higher value. The Aston is a much better looking car than the F-type IMO.

[JB65]

Not to mention the fact that addition of the new entry level 4 cylinder version will further reduce the exclusivity and end value of the F type

[Buster73]

I forgot to mention that Jaguar sell them to staff on their friends and family scheme at 20% off rrp.

[RobDown]

Buster73 said:

I forgot to mention that Jaguar sell them to staff on their friends and family scheme at 20% off rrp.

They will sell them to everyone for that sort of discount. And if you want an XJ the discounts can go into the 30s. It pretty much guarantees massive depreciation day 1

[stevenotwet]

When i spotted my v8 vantage I fell in love with it straight away, At that moment i wouldnt have cared if it had go cart engine in it.

It was the shape and looks from every angle that blew me away.

Took it for a test drive , then left it for a couple of days.

I took the misses with me on the second visit and sitting right next to it was a 2010 Jag XKR black white leather interior , had every thing the aston didnt in toys.I took it for a drive with the misses,she liked it ,then stepped into the aston straight after and took her out in that, As noted she said the aston is dated,The inside darker as in blue interior, less bright as in the jags white leather interior.
We stood the two of them together with nothing else near them (wish id taken that photograph) and walked around them .The XK is a lot of things the aston should have been and is a gorgeous car. But as the misses said If i drive away in the jag. I will always be thinking i should have got the aston.
In a couple of years if i want to trade in I can try the jag, but at that time , i wont be losing as much as i would trading in the jag

[Shrimpvende]

I think F types are much more spec sensitive than Vantages - i.e you can get a basic F type with (IMO) too much chrome, small wheels etc that doesn't look anywhere near as good as the S or R models with the additional exterior styling details and larger wheels.

I had a 2006 vantage and swapped it after 6 months for a 2015 F type S (V6). The Aston was classically better looking, but being in my early 20's I think I actually prefer my F Type as it's got every styling option ticked. It's also got a pano roof (not available on the vantage) and some other nice touches, along with the adaptive suspension and up to date infotainment.

It's true, I preferred owning an Aston far more. What I don't miss though is the constant repair bills the Aston chucked up, worrying about it far more, the heavy clutch that costs a couple of grand to replace and is prone to going without notice. I'd still love an Aston and will probably have another, but I just can't currently justify it. The earlier sports shift gearboxes are pretty poor and still have the same expensive clutch replacement, there's no adaptive suspension option and the infotainment/satnav is very outdated. The V6 Jag is slightly quicker, almost as noisy and genuinely isn't that bad on fuel/tax to boot. For the ~£45k the Jag cost me second hand from a dealer with a 2 year warranty, the only Vantage I could get would be an early 2006/7 4.3 model, with only a year's warranty if purchased from a main dealer.

The jag has caused me zero issues and I just treat it like a normal car as that's what it is, the Aston is a little more than that. And therein lies the problem with it, and why after saying all this I know I'll end up in another Aston sometime (Just a much newer one!)

Vantage





F Type

[Jon39]

Shrimpvende said:

Vantage


F-Type

This might have alraedy been mentioned, but both the Vantage and the F-Type were created by the same designer, Mr. Ian Callum.

Although Henrik Fisker was given credit for the Vantage, the design had already been about 80% completed before he joined Aston Martin. The Vantage project was delayed, in order to prepare the DB9 for production first. Of course the looks of the DB9 and Vantage are very similar, so it is easy to see that those two models came from the same 'pen'.

[MasterBlaster]

Thanks for all your replies.
Although I had already driven a V6 F-type ( in white ) , this weekend I had a look at a black F type R, and was shocked at the amount of orange peel on the paintwork, far worse than a merc or other high end, and for me that somes up the level of quality on the jag. The V8V I looked at was an immaculate mirror finish....
Difficult choice, heart says V8V , but the jag has lots going for it. A quick look at the production figures tells me the V8V is exclusive and will depreciate less.
Somebody said keep the 993, but it is fast becoming a garage queen.

[Jon39]

MasterBlaster said:

A quick look at the production figures tells me the V8V is exclusive and will depreciate less.

Looking simply at the financials, this is indeed a big difference between the two models.

Yesterday I was surprised to see three F-Types within half an hour. I don't know what versions they were, you would need to be a Jaguar enthusiast to tell.

In the UK, an old Jaguar XK8 can be purchased for just £5,000, some even less.
For the earliest Vantage, you would expect around £30,000.
Even older Aston Martins tend to appreciate, but it is too early to know if that will ever happen to the Vantage.

Edited by Jon39 on Monday 30th July 12:48

[MasterBlaster]

JB65 said:

Not to mention the fact that addition of the new entry level 4 cylinder version will further reduce the exclusivity and end value of the F type

good point...I didn`t know that.
I also read somewhere the new V8V is more expensive than the old. Having seen a new one last week in the flesh, I'm not too convinced on the looks of it, and I was told I was not the only one to think that. Should keep the second hand prices up...

[goddo]

MasterBlaster said:

Although I had already driven a V6 F-type ( in white ) , this weekend I had a look at a black F type R, and was shocked at the amount of orange peel on the paintwork, far worse than a merc or other high end, and for me that somes up the level of quality on the jag.

I have to say that I have looked at, and owned, all sorts of “high end” cars and Jaguar are not alone in having orange peel paintwork. Maserati, BMW (a lot!!), Mercedes, Porsche and Aston Martin are all included. Not too many marques have the AM standard paint bubbling. Orange peel can be almost always eradicated by a decent detailer. I know, because Paddy has done miracles on a couple of my cars over the years. That still doesn’t detract from the fact that Aston’s, all of them, “do something” to a true petrolhead, IMHO.

[divetheworld]

Shrimpvende said:

there's no adaptive suspension option

Some do...... When you get another, you just need the right one. It's the one with carbon bonnet vents and not missing 4 pots buddy.....

[AstonV]

The new Vantage is better comparison to the F-type. They are closer in appearance and physical size to each other, as well as performance and livability. But not even on the same level in build quality, fit and finish. Jaguar is a mass production car.