The new Vantage?

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Jon39

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144 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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CSK1 said:
And we could hope for a limited edition V12 version, I know they said the previous one would be the last, but with Aston there’s always a very last one after the last one! smile

Several AML staffers have indicated, that the V12 TT engine might appear again.

When AML say the last one, it still allows them considerable flexibility. Buyers who think they have one of the last, perhaps have not followed the AML meaning of last. It only applies to the exact model name.

V12 Vantage final TT edition - the last versions of this model have been built.
V12 Vantage S - could be the name of different model, so another opportunity for a V12 TT last time.
V12 Vantage S Ultimate - could be the name of yet another different model, so more opportunities for a V12 TT last time.

In the agricultural industry, I think they refer to this as Milking It.


Simpo Two

85,640 posts

266 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Jon39 said:
When AML say the last one, it still allows them considerable flexibility. Buyers who think they have one of the last, perhaps have not followed the AML meaning of last. It only applies to the exact model name.

V12 Vantage final TT edition - the last versions of this model have been built.
V12 Vantage S - could be the name of different model, so another opportunity for a V12 TT last time.
V12 Vantage S Ultimate - could be the name of yet another different model, so more opportunities for a V12 TT last time.

In the agricultural industry, I think they refer to this as Milking It.
A simpler nomenclature might be to badge every car as 'Aston Martin Last One'. Then every car is automatically the last one, thereby saving any confusion smile

'Which Aston do you have?'
'Mine's the Last One'.
'Ah yes, so is mine!'

Reynardff1600

22 posts

13 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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The good news on a new Vantage is the Vantage gen 2 cars may drop even more as a used car. So if looking for a gen 2 Vantage the price maybe a good buy. The problem I have is the 2005 to 2018 Vantage looks so good I am not sure I would buy a new one. To me a classic look will always win out.

Jon39

12,871 posts

144 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Reynardff1600 said:
The problem I have, is the 2005 to 2018 Vantage looks so good, I am not sure I would buy a new one.
To me a classic look will always win out.

It is possible (or possibly not), that many/some/a few/none, might (or might not), share your opinion.
Shhhh. We are only allowed to whisper opinions here.

I can remember in about 2012, someone said, "I wouldn't want to have the job of designing a successor car for this one".
Anyway, MR remembered the Vulcan and said to AP, "Leave it to me Sir. Your mother will not have any more model confusion after I have finished".
He was quite right. We never heard anything at all from AP's mother after that.

( I am leaving the 'punch line' to others. )


Calinours

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1,138 posts

51 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Jon39 said:

Reynardff1600 said:
The problem I have, is the 2005 to 2018 Vantage looks so good, I am not sure I would buy a new one.
To me a classic look will always win out.

It is possible (or possibly not), that many/some/a few/none, might (or might not), share your opinion.
Shhhh. We are only allowed to whisper opinions here.

I can remember in about 2012, someone said, "I wouldn't want to have the job of designing a successor car for this one".
Anyway, MR remembered the Vulcan and said to AP, "Leave it to me Sir. Your mother will not have any more model confusion after I have finished".
He was quite right. We never heard anything at all from AP's mother after that.

( I am leaving the 'punch line' to others. )
funny things, pendulums. From the early 2010s, many of the complaints were “outdated tech, and they are all a bit samey, variations on a theme, all use the same (largely V12) engine, no product differentiation”…

So along came AP’s mum.

Now, after it turns out that AP’s mum turned out not be be the car design guru that AP thought, it looks like we are coming full circle.. back to the future!



Kerniki

1,888 posts

22 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Calinours said:
funny things, pendulums. From the early 2010s, many of the complaints were “outdated tech, and they are all a bit samey, variations on a theme, all use the same (largely V12) engine, no product differentiation”…

So along came AP’s mum.

Now, after it turns out that AP’s mum turned out not be be the car design guru that AP thought, it looks like we are coming full circle.. back to the future!
APs mum? Andy Palmers mum? confused



bridggar1

91 posts

42 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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I'm in the market for a 2019 Vantage - no serious rush, but would like one this year. I wonder if new V will be priced such that the current model doesn't plummet like a stone?

alscar

4,192 posts

214 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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bridggar1 said:
I'm in the market for a 2019 Vantage - no serious rush, but would like one this year. I wonder if new V will be priced such that the current model doesn't plummet like a stone?
Whether the new ( new ) Vantage starts at £150k or even higher as some think I doubt plummeting is on the cards given there will already be a sizeable gap.


bridggar1

91 posts

42 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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That's what AM dealers are suggesting when I speak to them - I am seeing £2-3k drops each month though. £90k seems right for a well specified car with >15k miles so assume >£150k for the new (new) model.

alscar

4,192 posts

214 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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I think there are probably quite a few cars generally right now that have dropped by a few £k so don’t think it is necessarily specific to the Vantage.


Aldhun

159 posts

84 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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I am looking for a Vanquish S Volante and the one on Pistonheads have mostly dropped £5k to £10k in the past week or so but none of them are in colour combo I am lookig for. Lots of Black ones which I don't want

bridggar1

91 posts

42 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Each to their own - Black is what I'm after (albeit a Vantage) but not solid black. Perhaps see if September brings any new metal. (just missed out on a grange car which ticked many boxes - but not all....)

alscar

4,192 posts

214 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Are you just looking at MD’s ?
Nice looking one at ATP for instance if not.
There are quite a lot out there so even if you are after a very specific spec I guess you won’t have to wait forever.

bridggar1

91 posts

42 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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I'd rather go MD for piece of mind - although I appreciate reliability is significantly stronger than it was. I may well compromise for a silver/grey car at some point, but the solid colours (especially black) look quite tired at 15K miles. (the Grange solid black car at Hatfield for instance appears very unloved which makes me wonder about the previous owners - I perhaps naively assumed AM owners are generally enthusiasts) Will see what's around in early September.

Kerniki

1,888 posts

22 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Aldhun said:
I am looking for a Vanquish S Volante and the one on Pistonheads have mostly dropped £5k to £10k in the past week or so but none of them are in colour combo I am lookig for. Lots of Black ones which I don't want

Aldhun

159 posts

84 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Silver is good, I cannot find it on Google.


Dealer name please

AstonV

1,574 posts

107 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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bridggar1 said:
I'm in the market for a 2019 Vantage - no serious rush, but would like one this year. I wonder if new V will be priced such that the current model doesn't plummet like a stone?
They already have. Running $100,000 - $110,000 US dollars. I would bet they probably start to level off, the steep deprecation curve has already happened.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Aldhun said:
I am looking for a Vanquish S Volante and the one on Pistonheads have mostly dropped £5k to £10k in the past week or so but none of them are in colour combo I am lookig for. Lots of Black ones which I don't want
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148498423?sort=relevance&body-type=Convertible&make=Aston%20Martin&model=Vanquish&price-from=100000&price-to=250000&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra

Jon39

12,871 posts

144 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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Kerniki said:
APs mum? Andy Palmers mum? confused

This goes back to the days when the DBS, DB9, Virage and Vantage, all sgared fairly similar designs.
That is something that has certainly never hindered Audi's Russian Doll range of Q3, Q5, Q7, etc. SUVs.

Anyway, Andy Palmer, President of Gaydon and Chief Executive Officer of Aston Martin Lagonda Global Holdings Plc.,
publicly decreed that his mother must be easily able to distinguish every new Aston Martin model.

Presumably that is why the 2018 Vantage design was more than an evolution.
AP also spoke about the Vantage being aimed at 'new younger wealthy customers', but he subsequently found out that most of them, are quite busy coping with mortgages and children.

Aldhun

159 posts

84 months

Monday 14th August 2023
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I've seen that one, the Winter Wheat internal trim is just not my taste