New Car advice/recommendations please!
Discussion
Grant3 said:
Nice position to be in!!
With 8-10k a year you will loose your shirt on Ferraris, Lambos & the like, the only car for that mileage is Pork IMO, but after your recent stable they will seem a bit ordinary when you have already had the pinnacle in the 997 GT3 followed by a 430!!
But if you went (sort of) sensible..the new Facelift 997S will have circa 385 BHP, with the new PASM 20mm lowered option, PDK 7 speed box, new more functional interior(touch screen Nav etc)& Bose upgrade you could easily live with this fabulous beast... in reality not far short of 430 performance on road!
This would then leave you clear to invest the other 75k in something else, a used AMV8 roadster (what a fabulous combination, a facelift 997S + AMV8 cab!!!), better still a nearly new 987 Boxster S, plus a Caterham/Radical or the other extreme a used Jag to waft!
Bottom line for me is.. if I was spending 150k on a keeper, it wouldn't be one car, rather a mix of fab driver, soft-top + daily user!
Of course before you settle down it's time to add a LAMBO to the portfolio first, so the latest Gallardo is first on the list.
Personally I am still loving the 997 GT3 over 1 year on, you have missed some quality time by bailing out early with yours! But I am up for a change next, probably with the 4.7 litre AMV8, then the 997 GT3 facelift or 998 GT3!
Best of luck!
Hi Grant. If I went the buy new, 'keeper', route then I wouldn't loose as I'd never sell. If that makes sense. The very fact that Pork will take the mileage also demonstrates why they probably aren't the car to take this route with. 993 in the barn or 355 - see what I mean?With 8-10k a year you will loose your shirt on Ferraris, Lambos & the like, the only car for that mileage is Pork IMO, but after your recent stable they will seem a bit ordinary when you have already had the pinnacle in the 997 GT3 followed by a 430!!
But if you went (sort of) sensible..the new Facelift 997S will have circa 385 BHP, with the new PASM 20mm lowered option, PDK 7 speed box, new more functional interior(touch screen Nav etc)& Bose upgrade you could easily live with this fabulous beast... in reality not far short of 430 performance on road!
This would then leave you clear to invest the other 75k in something else, a used AMV8 roadster (what a fabulous combination, a facelift 997S + AMV8 cab!!!), better still a nearly new 987 Boxster S, plus a Caterham/Radical or the other extreme a used Jag to waft!
Bottom line for me is.. if I was spending 150k on a keeper, it wouldn't be one car, rather a mix of fab driver, soft-top + daily user!
Of course before you settle down it's time to add a LAMBO to the portfolio first, so the latest Gallardo is first on the list.
Personally I am still loving the 997 GT3 over 1 year on, you have missed some quality time by bailing out early with yours! But I am up for a change next, probably with the 4.7 litre AMV8, then the 997 GT3 facelift or 998 GT3!
Best of luck!
HOWEVER I think (ho ho) I've reached a decision of sorts and yesterday spec'd a facelift 997S for Sept 1. to exactly the spec you mention - less the PDK box which I've tried and is STILL an auto basically. This will be my day to day wheels. I'm now looking for a 355 - probably a Spider - as my first classic keeper. Already a classic but young and modern enough to be a good companion on continental juants etc.
Yep, I did bail on the GT3 earlier than I needed to but timing is all and I had six months 'free' motoring. In truth it's very unusual for any car to hold it's value so strongly beyond that kind of period and you've done well. Maybe shift it before the facelift has been out too long and the MK2 GT3 rumour mill starts?
Of course California, F430 replacement, Macca, GT3Mk2, 998 etc etc are all out there too - nothing changes!
jus said:
I would say keep the F430 and put your name down for it's successor. Ignore the California. Also consider a 4.7 AMV8 despite the price. I think it's really an impossible set of criteria to satisfy at this point in time, if you are anything like me 
Order safely filed a few years ago thanks!
And your final sentence is oh SO true!!*CQ* said:
If you were to go down the 355 route then don't get either the spider or 'B'....GTS does it all
Including leak and wobble For some reason I've never been a fan of the GTS on any Ferrari model. They always lose a touch in the design stakes to my eyes. And the added complications with both the GTS and the Spider are not something you need on a 10yr old Ferrari.
Plus on the GTS you could argue you get the worst of both worlds - buttress cracking AND potential for water in the cockpit.
PS I'd also avoid the F1 too. The manual box is good to use, and the open clackety gate is pure Ferrari. The implementation of the F1 is a million miles from that in the 430 too.
Edited by Murph7355 on Friday 23 May 07:24
Murph7355 said:
*CQ* said:
If you were to go down the 355 route then don't get either the spider or 'B'....GTS does it all
Including leak and wobble For some reason I've never been a fan of the GTS on any Ferrari model. They always lose a touch in the design stakes to my eyes. And the added complications with both the GTS and the Spider are not something you need on a 10yr old Ferrari.
Plus on the GTS you could argue you get the worst of both worlds - buttress cracking AND potential for water in the cockpit.
PS I'd also avoid the F1 too. The manual box is good to use, and the open clackety gate is pure Ferrari. The implementation of the F1 is a million miles from that in the 430 too.
Edited by Murph7355 on Friday 23 May 07:24
Murph7355 said:
Plus on the GTS you could argue you get the worst of both worlds - buttress cracking AND potential for water in the cockpit.
That's a tad harsh Murph. In 3 years of GTS ownership I never suffered either and to cocoon yourself beneath a tin roof that insulates you from the exhaust note is, quite frankly, ludicrous. Believe me, there is nothing that compares with taking out that roof section on a sunny day.....nothing!I did a 600+ miles stint on such a day from Bavaria and simply cannot imagine having the same experience in a 'B', not to mention a bloody great tan!
Pugsey said:
I've never liked the GTS either for some reason and agree that it doesn't quite work design wise.
the GTS looks the same as a 'B' with a colour coded roof 
*CQ* said:
Pugsey said:
I've never liked the GTS either for some reason and agree that it doesn't quite work design wise.
the GTS looks the same as a 'B' with a colour coded roof 
I'm with Pugsey - it just doesn't look the same! It's like looking at someone with the world's best wig. It may look great, but you can't help looking for the join!
Sound? Decat, flame spitting Tubi with 30k miles on and next to know stuffing was hard to ignore (and why would you want to!). Window down and job's a good un.
I lived in my B for 3.5mths around Europe. I would not have been able to take as much stuff with me AND be able to take the roof out. And every single mile of the 5k on that trip could not have been more special. Hell, the 35k I did in the car in 4.5yrs (and I was abroad for 18mths without the car!) were the same. All special.
Tremendous cars. And when I hear one and see them being hustled I still have pangs for my old one.
Sound? Decat, flame spitting Tubi with 30k miles on and next to know stuffing was hard to ignore (and why would you want to!). Window down and job's a good un.
I lived in my B for 3.5mths around Europe. I would not have been able to take as much stuff with me AND be able to take the roof out. And every single mile of the 5k on that trip could not have been more special. Hell, the 35k I did in the car in 4.5yrs (and I was abroad for 18mths without the car!) were the same. All special.
Tremendous cars. And when I hear one and see them being hustled I still have pangs for my old one.
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