Vantage V12 Corsa tyre discussion: your thoughts.
Discussion
roughrider said:
The choice for V12VS is with the original purchaser, P-Zero Corsa [usually on the lightweight wheel], or P-Zero [usually on the earlier 2010 style wheel]. Plus, i'm pretty sure the original V12V Manual buyers were offered to opt out of the Corsa, in favour of the normal P-Zero?!
Manual V12V,s did not have the option i believe.
roughrider said:
The choice for V12VS is with the original purchaser, P-Zero Corsa [usually on the lightweight wheel], or P-Zero [usually on the earlier 2010 style wheel]. Plus, i'm pretty sure the original V12V Manual buyers were offered to opt out of the Corsa, in favour of the normal P-Zero?!
The original thread dates back to Feb 2011, at this time A.M. did not offer an approved version of the non-Corsa P-Zero, they introduced it for the 2012MY and it has become a choice on new cars since then... Maybe the power of suggestion on PH stimulated the introduction 
. Personally I'm with Mikey I'm not a fan of the Corsa's in the UK climate, but as ever each to their own.I'm changing over to the MPSS. These aren't AM approved (!) and to make matters more difficult, neither Works nor a few other Aston dealers I've called will fit them as a result??! Insane. That said, the lovely folks at Chichester will do this. I haven't made the switch yet as there's still a month or three of wear left, but I'm informed from others that the PSS make a huge difference. Anything has to be better than the Corsa's.
Chris
Chris
Quarterly said:
Grant, what tyres did you end up buying? I'm in the same dilemma now as your first post. I don't know weather to spend thousands on a winter set of tyres or just change the existing crosas.
In honesty I didn't.. being a certified tightwad I kept the Corsas until I traded the V12V...Much depends on how much you use your beast during cold weather, the winter tyres are MUCH better in frosty conditions and you can feel the difference, but it is a big expense and if you don't do big winter mileage I think the standard approved P-Zeros offer a good compromise. They are noticably better in winter and in honesty you need to be on track to feel you are loosing out on cornering grip to the Corsas, personal choice as ever.. tightwad tip keep the Corsas until they need changing and then go P-Zero
Grant3 said:
Quarterly said:
Grant, what tyres did you end up buying? I'm in the same dilemma now as your first post. I don't know weather to spend thousands on a winter set of tyres or just change the existing crosas.
In honesty I didn't.. being a certified tightwad I kept the Corsas until I traded the V12V...Much depends on how much you use your beast during cold weather, the winter tyres are MUCH better in frosty conditions and you can feel the difference, but it is a big expense and if you don't do big winter mileage I think the standard approved P-Zeros offer a good compromise. They are noticably better in winter and in honesty you need to be on track to feel you are loosing out on cornering grip to the Corsas, personal choice as ever.. tightwad tip keep the Corsas until they need changing and then go P-Zero
The amount of books you've sold this year alone must have made you a multi millionaire? and to save me reading back through your 3230 posts why did you sell your car? If that isn't an extremely nosey question, did something better come along? Quarterly said:
I don't know if I'm more shocked that you are a tightwad or that you sold your V12V. The amount of books you've sold this year alone must have made you a multi millionaire? and to save me reading back through your 3230 posts why did you sell your car? If that isn't an extremely nosey question, did something better come along?
The book is a labour of love rather than cash, although it all helps The amount of books you've sold this year alone must have made you a multi millionaire? and to save me reading back through your 3230 posts why did you sell your car? If that isn't an extremely nosey question, did something better come along? Loved the V12V and had a good few years pleasure with the beast. Dedicated to researching all things Aston I currently have a late 14MY V8S Roadster with Sportshift II rather than manual. It's no good just imagining what all the different models are like.. you need to get up close and personal
roof down sports exhaust at full voice the V8S is another well formed Aston creation woodsypedia said:
I'm changing over to the MPSS. These aren't AM approved (!) and to make matters more difficult, neither Works nor a few other Aston dealers I've called will fit them as a result??! Insane. That said, the lovely folks at Chichester will do this. I haven't made the switch yet as there's still a month or three of wear left, but I'm informed from others that the PSS make a huge difference. Anything has to be better than the Corsa's.
Chris
Ive been quoted £857 all in for a set.Chris
What does a an Aston Main dealer charge?
This is neither the first not I guess the last time this discussion has come up and in most instances, it comes down to personal preference, driving style, who is/is not prepared to drive with 'non-approved' tyres and whether it's your only car or a car you take out seldom in winter. Cost seems rarely to be a huge factor
Of course the biggest problem is that it's not very easy to arrange a back to back test of a V12V with several different tyres on in order to come to a decision
Incidentally my understanding is that corsa was the sole tyre until around the time of roadster, when the non-corsa became an option - I think it was an option on the coupes late in their production life but I may be wrong
I love the corsas and I do 5-10k per year in mine, although it's a second car and I do few winter miles. I have an even more extreme tyre on my car right now, the trofeo r, which I'm coping with fine this winter, although again I do very few winter miles and wouldn't take my car out in the snow regardless of what tyre is fitted
I'll probably go back to corsas when the trofeos need changing but that's mainly because I only put them on at Spa when they were the only option available. I'm prepared to put up with the downsides of corsas over ergular p-zeros because when everything is just right, I love the benefit of corsas. To me, that kind of sums up V12V full stop - when everything is right - weather, road surface, traffic, mood, etc the car just sings but when it's not, the car is a handful. Corsas fit into that pattern to me but I fully understand those who feel differently.
I also think there is slightly better traction in V12V roadster than coupe, partly as a result of slightly different suspension settings and possibly down partly to the extra weight of roadster, which in turn could lead to different tyre experiences for me than a coupe owner might have
Of course the biggest problem is that it's not very easy to arrange a back to back test of a V12V with several different tyres on in order to come to a decision
Incidentally my understanding is that corsa was the sole tyre until around the time of roadster, when the non-corsa became an option - I think it was an option on the coupes late in their production life but I may be wrong
I love the corsas and I do 5-10k per year in mine, although it's a second car and I do few winter miles. I have an even more extreme tyre on my car right now, the trofeo r, which I'm coping with fine this winter, although again I do very few winter miles and wouldn't take my car out in the snow regardless of what tyre is fitted
I'll probably go back to corsas when the trofeos need changing but that's mainly because I only put them on at Spa when they were the only option available. I'm prepared to put up with the downsides of corsas over ergular p-zeros because when everything is just right, I love the benefit of corsas. To me, that kind of sums up V12V full stop - when everything is right - weather, road surface, traffic, mood, etc the car just sings but when it's not, the car is a handful. Corsas fit into that pattern to me but I fully understand those who feel differently.
I also think there is slightly better traction in V12V roadster than coupe, partly as a result of slightly different suspension settings and possibly down partly to the extra weight of roadster, which in turn could lead to different tyre experiences for me than a coupe owner might have
JCT600 Leeds charged me £815 for a full set of PZeros (non Corsa) at the end of Nov - that was supplied, fitted and balanced! Corsa's were something like £20 more for the full set, but I didn't want them.
Suggest you give Tina on service a call - not all AM main dealers are a rip off!
Suggest you give Tina on service a call - not all AM main dealers are a rip off!
jonby said:
This is neither the first not I guess the last time this discussion has come up and in most instances, it comes down to personal preference, driving style, who is/is not prepared to drive with 'non-approved' tyres and whether it's your only car or a car you take out seldom in winter. Cost seems rarely to be a huge factor
Of course the biggest problem is that it's not very easy to arrange a back to back test of a V12V with several different tyres on in order to come to a decision
Incidentally my understanding is that corsa was the sole tyre until around the time of roadster, when the non-corsa became an option - I think it was an option on the coupes late in their production life but I may be wrong
I love the corsas and I do 5-10k per year in mine, although it's a second car and I do few winter miles. I have an even more extreme tyre on my car right now, the trofeo r, which I'm coping with fine this winter, although again I do very few winter miles and wouldn't take my car out in the snow regardless of what tyre is fitted
I'll probably go back to corsas when the trofeos need changing but that's mainly because I only put them on at Spa when they were the only option available. I'm prepared to put up with the downsides of corsas over ergular p-zeros because when everything is just right, I love the benefit of corsas. To me, that kind of sums up V12V full stop - when everything is right - weather, road surface, traffic, mood, etc the car just sings but when it's not, the car is a handful. Corsas fit into that pattern to me but I fully understand those who feel differently.
I also think there is slightly better traction in V12V roadster than coupe, partly as a result of slightly different suspension settings and possibly down partly to the extra weight of roadster, which in turn could lead to different tyre experiences for me than a coupe owner might have
Jon how did you find the Trofeos's they are a factory approved option on the McLarenOf course the biggest problem is that it's not very easy to arrange a back to back test of a V12V with several different tyres on in order to come to a decision
Incidentally my understanding is that corsa was the sole tyre until around the time of roadster, when the non-corsa became an option - I think it was an option on the coupes late in their production life but I may be wrong
I love the corsas and I do 5-10k per year in mine, although it's a second car and I do few winter miles. I have an even more extreme tyre on my car right now, the trofeo r, which I'm coping with fine this winter, although again I do very few winter miles and wouldn't take my car out in the snow regardless of what tyre is fitted
I'll probably go back to corsas when the trofeos need changing but that's mainly because I only put them on at Spa when they were the only option available. I'm prepared to put up with the downsides of corsas over ergular p-zeros because when everything is just right, I love the benefit of corsas. To me, that kind of sums up V12V full stop - when everything is right - weather, road surface, traffic, mood, etc the car just sings but when it's not, the car is a handful. Corsas fit into that pattern to me but I fully understand those who feel differently.
I also think there is slightly better traction in V12V roadster than coupe, partly as a result of slightly different suspension settings and possibly down partly to the extra weight of roadster, which in turn could lead to different tyre experiences for me than a coupe owner might have
I fully agree with Jonby. I have Corsa's on my V12VSR and I find them great. Dealer warned me to be careful in wet conditions but my trip across France it was literally pouring down with rain and tyres were actually OK.
They're at their best when you get them warmed up a bit though so probably better suited to the South of France climate than the British one.
They're at their best when you get them warmed up a bit though so probably better suited to the South of France climate than the British one.
I have the original Corsas on my V12VS and they're still going strong after 10.5k miles. Must be doing it wrong? Seriously though, brilliant when dry and warm and ok when cold and wet, when they feel 'hard''. Can't think of a better word to describe them. I couldn't be bothered with winter wheels and tyres, I just drive a bit slower when it's cold and wet. I'll do some more research when they need replacing, but so far, if the deal was good, I'd have another set of Corsas without hesitation.
Haven't had my V12V very long, and have had jut ONE drive in the dry so far 
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But indeed the Corsa's seem fine just managing the torque on acceleration. The car does have much better lateral grip in the wet than my previous V8V on the OEM Bridgestones . Of course I'm sure the extra rubber and spring rates are factors too.
. But indeed the Corsa's seem fine just managing the torque on acceleration. The car does have much better lateral grip in the wet than my previous V8V on the OEM Bridgestones . Of course I'm sure the extra rubber and spring rates are factors too.
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