Mitsubishi Evo 8/9/X
Discussion
WCZ said:
if you can stretch to a 9 360 then stretch amazing cars
You can turn an IX FQ-300, 320 or 340 into a IX FQ-360 for very little money (£1,500 or so) and this is exactly what Mitsubishi UK did - all the IX FQ models were identical spec. when they left the factory in Japan, it was only when they arrived in the UK that Mitsubishi UK bolted some parts on and rebadged them. So, I don't rate the IX FQ-360 over the other models particularly.The IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.
youngsyr said:
You can turn an IX FQ-300, 320 or 340 into a IX FQ-360 for very little money (£1,500 or so) and this is exactly what Mitsubishi UK did - all the IX FQ models were identical spec. when they left the factory in Japan, it was only when they arrived in the UK that Mitsubishi UK bolted some parts on and rebadged them. So, I don't rate the IX FQ-360 over the other models particularly.
The IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.
entirely agreed, but I think from depreciation point of view they are a classic and are the most sort afterThe IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.
WCZ said:
youngsyr said:
You can turn an IX FQ-300, 320 or 340 into a IX FQ-360 for very little money (£1,500 or so) and this is exactly what Mitsubishi UK did - all the IX FQ models were identical spec. when they left the factory in Japan, it was only when they arrived in the UK that Mitsubishi UK bolted some parts on and rebadged them. So, I don't rate the IX FQ-360 over the other models particularly.
The IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.
entirely agreed, but I think from depreciation point of view they are a classic and are the most sort afterThe IX MR FQ-360 has some parts on it that the non MR IX FQ models do not, but again, nothing especially deal breaking, except that it's the only model available in gunmetal grey, which is a great colour on that shape Evo.
The MR version of the IX is the last of the CT9A chassis Evos, which is highly regarded by the community, and it was only sold officially in the UK in the FQ-360 spec., so if you want a UK model, your only choice is a IX MR FQ-360.
The IX FQ-360 is not particularly special (and had horrible wheels in its original spec.!).
Rust wise, are the 7-9 cars starting to suffer like 4-6 cars have been for the last 5 years?
A friend was looking for a clean TME, but gave it up after two months as the only one for sale that wasn't beset by rust was a concours quality car for over £20k.
My track car is an AWD 4g63 engined hatchback, so I am genuinely curious - and its not a dig.
A friend was looking for a clean TME, but gave it up after two months as the only one for sale that wasn't beset by rust was a concours quality car for over £20k.
My track car is an AWD 4g63 engined hatchback, so I am genuinely curious - and its not a dig.
Hol said:
Rust wise, are the 7-9 cars starting to suffer like 4-6 cars have been for the last 5 years?
A friend was looking for a clean TME, but gave it up after two months as the only one for sale that wasn't beset by rust was a concours quality car for over £20k.
My track car is an AWD 4g63 engined hatchback, so I am genuinely curious - and its not a dig.
I owned an VIII (UK supplied in 2003) from 2006 to 2012 and by this point it had the usual rust spot underneath the spoiler upright on the top of the boot where the spoiler rubbed, plus surface rust on the underside suspension parts, but nothing structural, as far as I was aware. That car is still going strong now and has had the engine upgraded to around 600 bhp, so I guess the current owner isn't concerned about it at the 12 year old mark. It must have done at least 70k miles by now.A friend was looking for a clean TME, but gave it up after two months as the only one for sale that wasn't beset by rust was a concours quality car for over £20k.
My track car is an AWD 4g63 engined hatchback, so I am genuinely curious - and its not a dig.
Generally speaking, Evos do suffer from rust over time (don't forget Evo VIs are now at least 16 years old), with the Evo V/VIs suffering around the boot floor and petrol filler pipe. Evo VIIs onwards don't seem to be quite so bad, but then they are a few years younger than the VIs, so perhaps will suffer in time.
I've had an X 300SST for nine months now.
It is a good all round car and for the last few weeks has been the only car in the household. SWMBO is happy to drive it and it is very steady in the rain and snow.
I have tracked it and it's a blast. It took me a while to figure out that when wearing a helmet you don't hear the tyres! It's handy to hear the tyres....
The S-AWC kit is amazing.
The pulley recall was Ok.
It is quiet when cruising returning 30 mpg at 70mph. Probably 25 mpg overall.
Awesome overtaking ability.
The only drawbacks are the small boot and cramped/dark rear.
Otherwise a super car!
It is a good all round car and for the last few weeks has been the only car in the household. SWMBO is happy to drive it and it is very steady in the rain and snow.
I have tracked it and it's a blast. It took me a while to figure out that when wearing a helmet you don't hear the tyres! It's handy to hear the tyres....
The S-AWC kit is amazing.
The pulley recall was Ok.
It is quiet when cruising returning 30 mpg at 70mph. Probably 25 mpg overall.
Awesome overtaking ability.
The only drawbacks are the small boot and cramped/dark rear.
Otherwise a super car!
Heaveho said:
Funny how often this seems to happen........guy asks a question..........no-one responds for days.............you try and help the guy, immediately qualifying your response by making it clear in your first sentence that it isn't 1st hand experience, and that the only reason you're responding at all is because no-one else has. Your response is then immediately corrected or adjusted by someone else.
Seems odd how often there's a long gap between someone asking a question and getting an attempt at a helpful answer, and a very short gap after that before someone else who has direct knowledge then gets involved?
Not having a dig, and not even specific to me, just something I've noticed happens with reasonable frequency on a variety of forums. It's possible I've even done it myself!
At least you managed to get an alternative view Thanks to everyone who chipped in, I was tardy getting back to everyone to say thanks also.Seems odd how often there's a long gap between someone asking a question and getting an attempt at a helpful answer, and a very short gap after that before someone else who has direct knowledge then gets involved?
Not having a dig, and not even specific to me, just something I've noticed happens with reasonable frequency on a variety of forums. It's possible I've even done it myself!
I think I will continue to save. I have £6k at the moment and will have about £12 at end of the year. I'll top it up with one of those £7.5k supermarket loans and pay it off in a year. That should cover the car, insurance and running costs, I'll expect to do about 5-8k per year, my diesel Yaris will continue to do the grind to work as the Evo will be waisted doing the M25 / A2 into Canary Wharf.
The MX5 will not be turbo'd now and will continue to slowly toodle around top down, wife will be relieved
Heaveho said:
Funny how often this seems to happen........guy asks a question..........no-one responds for days.............you try and help the guy, immediately qualifying your response by making it clear in your first sentence that it isn't 1st hand experience, and that the only reason you're responding at all is because no-one else has. Your response is then immediately corrected or adjusted by someone else.
Seems odd how often there's a long gap between someone asking a question and getting an attempt at a helpful answer, and a very short gap after that before someone else who has direct knowledge then gets involved?
Not having a dig, and not even specific to me, just something I've noticed happens with reasonable frequency on a variety of forums. It's possible I've even done it myself!
There are a few factors causing this.Seems odd how often there's a long gap between someone asking a question and getting an attempt at a helpful answer, and a very short gap after that before someone else who has direct knowledge then gets involved?
Not having a dig, and not even specific to me, just something I've noticed happens with reasonable frequency on a variety of forums. It's possible I've even done it myself!
> many PH-ers don't mind expressing an opinion based on 'Google Only Experince'
> The number of Evos out here is quite small vs M3s, Porkers and even TVRs
> Posts drop down the What's New list pretty fast so often need a bump
But I'm interested. I can only speak for myself.
Evos are fantastic cars and great value.
I had an Evo IX FQ-340.
Pros;
-Ridiculously fast in real terms, nothing for the money (and even for a lot more money) can touch them on a B-road. All weathers, all road conditions, it is just always fast.
-Astonishingly agile for a decent sized car, feels so light and nimble thanks to the AWD system. In a totally different league to STi's and high-powered hot hatches.
-Newer models are largely very reliable when taken care of.
-Easily and cheaply modified to go even faster, and a large amount of specialist garages and aftermarket parts for whatever you fancy.
Cons;
-The car is so stable and capable that you really need to push it for a thrill. And 'pushing it' in an Evo means you are going VERY fast. (I sold mine and got an RX8 which is a lot more fun in some ways, although going considerably slower.)
-Service intervals of 4500 miles are excruciating if you aren't local to a trusted mechanic.
-Fuel economy around town is not so bad, but as soon as the turbo gets going, goodbye bank balance!
-AYC pumps are a common problem, and can cost something like £600-£1000 to fix, but the car can run fine without it.
-People saying "Nice Subaru"
Pros;
-Ridiculously fast in real terms, nothing for the money (and even for a lot more money) can touch them on a B-road. All weathers, all road conditions, it is just always fast.
-Astonishingly agile for a decent sized car, feels so light and nimble thanks to the AWD system. In a totally different league to STi's and high-powered hot hatches.
-Newer models are largely very reliable when taken care of.
-Easily and cheaply modified to go even faster, and a large amount of specialist garages and aftermarket parts for whatever you fancy.
Cons;
-The car is so stable and capable that you really need to push it for a thrill. And 'pushing it' in an Evo means you are going VERY fast. (I sold mine and got an RX8 which is a lot more fun in some ways, although going considerably slower.)
-Service intervals of 4500 miles are excruciating if you aren't local to a trusted mechanic.
-Fuel economy around town is not so bad, but as soon as the turbo gets going, goodbye bank balance!
-AYC pumps are a common problem, and can cost something like £600-£1000 to fix, but the car can run fine without it.
-People saying "Nice Subaru"
Gypsum Fantastic said:
I had an Evo IX FQ-340.
Pros;
-Ridiculously fast in real terms, nothing for the money (and even for a lot more money) can touch them on a B-road. All weathers, all road conditions, it is just always fast.
-Astonishingly agile for a decent sized car, feels so light and nimble thanks to the AWD system. In a totally different league to STi's and high-powered hot hatches.
-Newer models are largely very reliable when taken care of.
-Easily and cheaply modified to go even faster, and a large amount of specialist garages and aftermarket parts for whatever you fancy.
Cons;
-The car is so stable and capable that you really need to push it for a thrill. And 'pushing it' in an Evo means you are going VERY fast. (I sold mine and got an RX8 which is a lot more fun in some ways, although going considerably slower.)
-Service intervals of 4500 miles are excruciating if you aren't local to a trusted mechanic.
-Fuel economy around town is not so bad, but as soon as the turbo gets going, goodbye bank balance!
-AYC pumps are a common problem, and can cost something like £600-£1000 to fix, but the car can run fine without it.
-People saying "Nice Subaru"
Yes to this but also to add that the X has a 10,000 service interval.Pros;
-Ridiculously fast in real terms, nothing for the money (and even for a lot more money) can touch them on a B-road. All weathers, all road conditions, it is just always fast.
-Astonishingly agile for a decent sized car, feels so light and nimble thanks to the AWD system. In a totally different league to STi's and high-powered hot hatches.
-Newer models are largely very reliable when taken care of.
-Easily and cheaply modified to go even faster, and a large amount of specialist garages and aftermarket parts for whatever you fancy.
Cons;
-The car is so stable and capable that you really need to push it for a thrill. And 'pushing it' in an Evo means you are going VERY fast. (I sold mine and got an RX8 which is a lot more fun in some ways, although going considerably slower.)
-Service intervals of 4500 miles are excruciating if you aren't local to a trusted mechanic.
-Fuel economy around town is not so bad, but as soon as the turbo gets going, goodbye bank balance!
-AYC pumps are a common problem, and can cost something like £600-£1000 to fix, but the car can run fine without it.
-People saying "Nice Subaru"
I rarely get below 23 mpg including energetic driving. Mind you in the track it is only 10-12!
Gypsum Fantastic said:
NailedOn said:
Yes to this but also to add that the X has a 10,000 service interval.
I rarely get below 23 mpg including energetic driving. Mind you in the track it is only 10-12!
Yeah, I think the X is a different beast really. Probably a bit more reasonable to live with. I rarely get below 23 mpg including energetic driving. Mind you in the track it is only 10-12!
- Variable Valve Control on both inlet and exhaust plus a smaller turbo with a titanium turbine makes the lag and boost threshold much less pronounced.
- Longer service period
- Interior was designed around 2006, not 1996 like the VII to IX.
However, there are some drawbacks:
- Manual X is only 5 speed, a lot of the VIII and IXs have a 6 speed
- Smaller boot on the X.
- Most VII to IXs have tax at a really low rate due to the way they were registered. All Xs are the highest tax band.
Titan said:
Not quite true on the X being the highest road tax band, our RS 360 is private light goods, currently £230 per year I think.
The tax band for grey imports will depend on how they were registered when they were imported. For all the official UK models, the tax band is the highest one, just shy of £500 p.a.
http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I love my X but might not stretch to £65,000 for one!
I love my X but might not stretch to £65,000 for one!
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