Nissan R35 GT-R Prices?

Nissan R35 GT-R Prices?

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Erich Stahler

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2,878 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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What's your view on how prices will go with these very special cars? Bottom of the market seems to be very securely anchored around 35k for the first 2009 cars and has not budged by even a fraction for several years now!

Nedzilla

2,439 posts

174 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I sold a mint 09 car with 27k on the clock 12 months ago for £36k. I kept in touch with the chap I sold it to as he is local and he told me he's just sold it on for £37k!
I think that pretty much gives you your answer.

DanielSan

18,771 posts

167 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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There was a massive price jump from 09 onwards, that's keeping the early cars second hand prices up a lot. Given the sheer performance on offer and unless you're willing to buy a cheaper and slightly rough import it's a safe way to spend 35k and get 35k back in 12-18 months time. Sadly hehe

Erich Stahler

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2,878 posts

270 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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That makes sense, have seen comments regarding the six month service intervals for the 09 cars, extended to 12 months on the later cars, which its suggested may have been to recoup some profit from the loss leader pricing strategy for on the earlier cars.

DanielSan

18,771 posts

167 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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I'm not 100% but I'm sure Litchfield have advised owners of early cars that extending the service interval won't do the car any harm. They may well even put an aftermarket warranty on the car for you still.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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There's a guy I'd see occasionally at shows/runs that owns a 997 turbo. He bought it because he couldn't stomach the maintenance costs of his R35. That put me off a little...

BarryP

584 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Art0ir said:
There's a guy I'd see occasionally at shows/runs that owns a 997 turbo. He bought it because he couldn't stomach the maintenance costs of his R35. That put me off a little...
Rather surprised by this comment, the independents such as Litchfields, Autotorque and AC Speedtech are very reasonably priced on servicing,Autotorque charge £55 per hour labour costs. If you take an R35 to a Nissan dealer you will pay considerably more and probably not get as high a quality of work as they see very few cars on a regular basis. The brakes are a bit expensive but again there are independent suppliers of discs and pads etc which are better quality and considerably cheaper than the OEM set ups.The original run flat Dunlops used on the R35 are just over £2000 from a Nissan dealer but most owners are now fitting Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres at £800 a set. I doubt if this is any more expensive than the Porsche tyres.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Tyres was something he mentioned alright. No access to Litchfield etc over here so I can only assume it was Nissan looking after it.

This is probably going on two years now so the situation may have changed dramatically in that time.

Autopilot

1,298 posts

184 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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I currently have an Exige and on the cusp of making the jump to a GTR. As anybody who's owned an Exige will tell you, they're pretty damned cheap to run, servicing costs are good and there's load of independents out there to choose from. I absolutely LOVE my Exige, so selling was always going to be difficult, but the main thing that has prevented me from just getting on with it are the perceived running costs. Going from a car that I love to bits which costs bugger all to run to a car I'll probably love as much but is rumoured to cost at least 10k a year to run is a bitter pill to swallow.

It seems that everybody who has never owned a GTR quotes prices that have been bandied around and these seem to now be the 'standard' that people expect. I've done my own reading and from what I've seen, the GTR running costs aren't as bad as the rumour mill make them out to be.

I've read many times that tyres cost £2k a set and that you'll have to sell your house if you need a set of discs, but from nosing about online, this doesn't seem to represent what mot people actually pay. In fact, I've been pleasantly surprised by reading about real running costs from people who actually have them.

From the pricing I've been reading online, I've seen very little difference between running a GTR and 911

BarryP

584 posts

144 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Autopilot said:
I currently have an Exige and on the cusp of making the jump to a GTR. As anybody who's owned an Exige will tell you, they're pretty damned cheap to run, servicing costs are good and there's load of independents out there to choose from. I absolutely LOVE my Exige, so selling was always going to be difficult, but the main thing that has prevented me from just getting on with it are the perceived running costs. Going from a car that I love to bits which costs bugger all to run to a car I'll probably love as much but is rumoured to cost at least 10k a year to run is a bitter pill to swallow.

It seems that everybody who has never owned a GTR quotes prices that have been bandied around and these seem to now be the 'standard' that people expect. I've done my own reading and from what I've seen, the GTR running costs aren't as bad as the rumour mill make them out to be.

I've read many times that tyres cost £2k a set and that you'll have to sell your house if you need a set of discs, but from nosing about online, this doesn't seem to represent what mot people actually pay. In fact, I've been pleasantly surprised by reading about real running costs from people who actually have them.

From the pricing I've been reading online, I've seen very little difference between running a GTR and 911
If you have any further questions re running costs etc get over to www.gtroc.org
This is the official GTR Owners Club, lots of knowledgable guys on there that have a wealth of experience with the car.

Skyman

1,257 posts

224 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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I have just bought a brand new MY14 car for £70k complete with a three year service package. Seems a good deal to me.

Brew

433 posts

247 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Skyman said:
I have just bought a brand new MY14 car for £70k complete with a three year service package. Seems a good deal to me.
Sounds like a cracking deal - can you share some details (dealer etc)?

Skyman

1,257 posts

224 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Brew said:
Sounds like a cracking deal - can you share some details (dealer etc)?
Email sent.

Autopilot

1,298 posts

184 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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BarryP said:
If you have any further questions re running costs etc get over to www.gtroc.org
This is the official GTR Owners Club, lots of knowledgable guys on there that have a wealth of experience with the car.
Thank you, I will head over there and check it out. I'm hoping there is an owner nearby who would be willing to take me for a passenger ride in one so a good starting point to post!

I think part of (my perceived) magic of the Exige is that where it's quite small and looks 'pretty', it has quite a bit of novelty factor so would want another car to feel similar. I had a look at Porsche C2S and it just didn't feel special at all. A good car or course, it just didn't feel exciting. I love the look of the GTR (it doesn't look like a VW Beetle smile )

My neighbour had an R32 which felt special, so hoping the GTR hasn't lost any of that!

J4CKO

41,459 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Autopilot said:
but is rumoured to cost at least 10k a year to run
Really ? wow ?

But how ? suppose it depends on mileage but 10 grand to run one.

Surely you would need to break it to spend ten grand, Litchfields most expensive service is £1000, a set of tyres is, as mentioned £800, brakes all round looks like about £1500.

What else needs doing, am talking about routine stuff to keep one in good condition, not modifications ?

Suspension, alignment, detailing, refurbishment ? cant think of much else

Is anyone doing any of their own work ? the brakes don't look any harder to change than any other car and am guessing an oil change is pretty much an oil change ? not sure what home servicing a GTR would do to its value though.


Erich Stahler

Original Poster:

2,878 posts

270 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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J4CKO said:
Autopilot said:
but is rumoured to cost at least 10k a year to run
Really ? wow ?

But how ? suppose it depends on mileage but 10 grand to run one.

Surely you would need to break it to spend ten grand, Litchfields most expensive service is £1000, a set of tyres is, as mentioned £800, brakes all round looks like about £1500.

What else needs doing, am talking about routine stuff to keep one in good condition, not modifications ?

Suspension, alignment, detailing, refurbishment ? cant think of much else

Is anyone doing any of their own work ? the brakes don't look any harder to change than any other car and am guessing an oil change is pretty much an oil change ? not sure what home servicing a GTR would do to its value though.
There's a lot of such stores with performance cars, there's no way even at main dealership prices you would be spending to unless you had major problems or upgrades as mentioned.

I have been running a TVR Cerbera for the last ten years which is reputed to cost in the region of 3k a year in running costs.

Have never come anywhere close to that, although fairly hands on and using independent specialists.


Far Cough

2,212 posts

168 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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All depends if you take it to the track ? If you dont track it then I cant see them being anymore expensive than anything else really bar the petrol it drinks when you clog it !

Take it on track and its weight quickly shows itself by wearing the tyres and brakes. Persevere and the fluids ( Transmission ) heat up too requiring a change. Coming from an Exige or similar light weight car the R35 will feel like a bus on track.

There was lots and lots of hype when the car was initially released about fragile gearboxes etc etc but the independents have got all that under control. If you follow the Nissan rulebook to the letter ( pre and post trackday inspections etc etc ) , it is an expensive way to run a car.

Autopilot

1,298 posts

184 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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J4CKO said:
Autopilot said:
but is rumoured to cost at least 10k a year to run
Really ? wow ?

But how ? suppose it depends on mileage but 10 grand to run one.

Surely you would need to break it to spend ten grand, Litchfields most expensive service is £1000, a set of tyres is, as mentioned £800, brakes all round looks like about £1500.

What else needs doing, am talking about routine stuff to keep one in good condition, not modifications ?

Suspension, alignment, detailing, refurbishment ? cant think of much else

Is anyone doing any of their own work ? the brakes don't look any harder to change than any other car and am guessing an oil change is pretty much an oil change ? not sure what home servicing a GTR would do to its value though.
This is precisely my point smile

If you talk to anybody who hasn't owned one, they will tell you the unverified facts about how expensive they are and that if somebody looks at the front of the car too hard, the rams go off and it's £10k to have reset.

I've done some research and not listened to the general rumour mill, so like to think I have a fair view of genuine running costs.

J4CKO

41,459 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Phew, glad that isn't the case, I run my 350Z, which I know isn't quite the same biggrin for very little and that doesn't mean it doesn't get maintained, just I do most stuff myself, so far,

New brakes all round
Gearbox oil change
Engine oil/filter change
Exhaust fitted
Stereo replaced

I suppose it depends on whether I would want to keep the specialist history complete, the other stuff on the schedule doesn't look that challenging, anyone do their own spannering on one




Zed 44

1,262 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Since buying mine in 2013, I have had a Litchfields stage 1, a set of MPSSs, AP front discs and Ferrodo pads all round, K&N air filtres and transmission solenoid circlips and magnets plus an Ecutek cable. Total investment £4,600. This does not include insurance or a tracker.

I've driven it 16,000 miles and have only had to do oil and filtre changes. Tyre and brakes are still in excellent condition. But, I only use it for road trips. No track days.

And no, I use my independent for the bread and butter servicing. Anything else would go to a specialist.