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TacoLimeys

Original Poster:

57 posts

108 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Coming from my last thread...

At the end of this year I will most likely be part-exchanging my 1.2 swift for the 1.6 Swift Sport.

I will be looking to put a lot of work into this car. I have looked around and there seems to be a lot of performance modifications that can be done! (This will be done in the future, due to insurance etc)

Please don't suggest getting a different car...

Really looking forward to this, anybody here have any good suggestions?

Edited by TacoLimeys on Wednesday 30th September 10:05

oilslick

903 posts

186 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Add the money you've set aside for 'performance mods' to the money you were going to spend on a Swift and buy a faster car.

Sycamore

1,771 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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A good suggestion would be to buy a faster, better car.

You can polish a turd, but it's still a Suzuki underneath.

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

122 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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+1.

If you want to make a car quicker, it's best to start off with a forced induction car.

The swift sport, V my car

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-reviews/38955/gra...

Have a read, and bear in mind that my car uses the Abarth engine, the same engine that has warranted models running over 180hp. 200+ is possible with mods.

JonoG81

384 posts

105 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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oilslick said:
Add the money you've set aside for 'performance mods' to the money you were going to spend on a Swift and buy a faster car.
Depending on how much more it would be to insure a 'faster' car I would look into this before getting too carried away.

Not sure how much more performance you will be able to extract from a n/a 1.6, and if you are going to look down the forced induction route you may well be best off just buying a turbo/supercharged car in the first place.

Again, all depends on your financial situation.

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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While all good advice, perhaps we could try to avoid retreading the previous thread.

Yes he possibly could buy a faster car from the off, but maybe not.

Perhaps he wants to spread the cost over a period of time.

Perhaps he, good gods no!, even wants to work on the car himself.

oilslick

903 posts

186 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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JonoG81 said:
Depending on how much more it would be to insure a 'faster' car I would look into this before getting too carried away.

Not sure how much more performance you will be able to extract from a n/a 1.6, and if you are going to look down the forced induction route you may well be best off just buying a turbo/supercharged car in the first place.

Again, all depends on your financial situation.
I'd made the assumption that the OP would be declaring any modifications and would therefore be able to afford spending a fortune on insurance!

Agree with you on getting more power out of an n/a 1.6 engine, makes far more sense to buy something faster in the first place.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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TacoLimeys said:
Coming from my last thread...

At the end of this year I will most likely be part-exchanging my 1.2 swift for the 1.6 Swift Sport.

I will be looking to put a lot of work into this car. I have looked around and there seems to be a lot of performance modifications that can be done!

Really looking forward to this, anybody here have any good suggestions?
How much are you prepared to spend?

TacoLimeys

Original Poster:

57 posts

108 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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DrTre said:
While all good advice, perhaps we could try to avoid retreading the previous thread.

Yes he possibly could buy a faster car from the off, but maybe not.

Perhaps he wants to spread the cost over a period of time.

Perhaps he, good gods no!, even wants to work on the car himself.
^^ Bearing in mind I am 19, and I have fallen in love with these cars, can people please not carry on suggesting 'other options' 'faster cars' etc...

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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JonoG81 said:
oilslick said:
Add the money you've set aside for 'performance mods' to the money you were going to spend on a Swift and buy a faster car.
Depending on how much more it would be to insure a 'faster' car I would look into this before getting too carried away.
Generally less than a modified slow car.

I would reiterate what other posters have said, if you want bang for your buck then buy a faster car, don't waste your money trying to make a naturally aspirated shopping trolley go faster.

Of course it's your money and if a barried up hatchback is what you want then crack on.

AshBurrows

2,552 posts

162 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Strip it, cage it, direzzas, dampers, brakes, RS29s.
Capable looking cars around the ring and spa when I've seen em.

TacoLimeys

Original Poster:

57 posts

108 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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To clear things up.

I don't want a 'faster car' I want a Swift Sport :P

I understand there are faster options etc on the market, But I have a lot of friends in the Swift community and I want to keep it that way :P

Bennet

2,122 posts

131 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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TacoLimeys said:
Coming from my last thread...

At the end of this year I will most likely be part-exchanging my 1.2 swift for the 1.6 Swift Sport.
All the advice about spending thousands to get any extra power from a small naturally aspirated engine that applied to the 1.2 also applies to the 1.6. The point of getting the 1.6 would be that it's faster in the first place. Mission accomplished.

Prizam

2,335 posts

141 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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TacoLimeys said:
To clear things up.

I don't want a 'faster car' I want a Swift Sport :P

I understand there are faster options etc on the market, But I have a lot of friends in the Swift community and I want to keep it that way :P
Ahh, the old marque loyalty syndrome.

Ditch the idea that you have friends because of the car you drive. Its just silly. VW fan boys rub up each others rings in the "dubbers clubs". But if you fear you would loose friends by driving a ford, then they wernt really friends.

That said, the Swift Sport is an alright car, for what it is.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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In which case maybe you should be asking your friends in the Swift community what mods they have done!!

I'd put my money into good tyres, fresh bushes, alignment and servicing and spend any spare cash on track days/advanced driving courses.

It's better to drive a slower car fast and to its potential than have a fast car an no clue what to do with it

TacoLimeys

Original Poster:

57 posts

108 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Prizam said:
Ahh, the old marque loyalty syndrome.

Ditch the idea that you have friends because of the car you drive. Its just silly. VW fan boys rub up each others rings in the "dubbers clubs". But if you fear you would loose friends by driving a ford, then they wernt really friends.

That said, the Swift Sport is an alright car, for what it is.
I don't mean I would loose them, I just mean, I love the cars and I love being a part of the meetups etc :P

TacoLimeys

Original Poster:

57 posts

108 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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aka_kerrly said:
In which case maybe you should be asking your friends in the Swift community what mods they have done!!

I'd put my money into good tyres, fresh bushes, alignment and servicing and spend any spare cash on track days/advanced driving courses.

It's better to drive a slower car fast and to its potential than have a fast car an no clue what to do with it
Thank you for this, this was the kind of answer I was looking for.

TacoLimeys

Original Poster:

57 posts

108 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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Bennet said:
All the advice about spending thousands to get any extra power from a small naturally aspirated engine that applied to the 1.2 also applies to the 1.6. The point of getting the 1.6 would be that it's faster in the first place. Mission accomplished.
+1 smile

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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TacoLimeys said:
Really looking forward to this, anybody here have any good suggestions?

Edited by TacoLimeys on Wednesday 30th September 10:05
I'm gonna guess you are fairly young? And not been driving long?


Moving from a 1.2 to a 1.6 of the same car, while commendable and I'm sure the ideal customer for the car maker, isn't half a boring thing to do.

And as for wanting to mod it.


My advice would be ---- go drive some "proper" cars, then re-evaluate!



When I was 17-20, some of my mates used to cream their pants over owning and modding Vauxhall Nova's, the then 'in-car'. With stupid claims like "I'd rather a modded Nova than a Ferrari".

Personally I never understood this fascination, they were on the whole quite horrid cars. Modded or otherwise.


But the fact remains, that while some of these mates did own Nova's, some even modded them. None now own one.


As soon as you hit puberty and realise that actually there are a lot of REALLY interesting cars out there. Obsessing over modding a ho hum car becomes less important.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 30th September 2015
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TacoLimeys said:
DrTre said:
While all good advice, perhaps we could try to avoid retreading the previous thread.

Yes he possibly could buy a faster car from the off, but maybe not.

Perhaps he wants to spread the cost over a period of time.

Perhaps he, good gods no!, even wants to work on the car himself.
^^ Bearing in mind I am 19, and I have fallen in love with these cars, can people please not carry on suggesting 'other options' 'faster cars' etc...
Being 19 is no excuse and falling in love with a shopping trolley is inexcusable.