Slider pins have side to side play?

Slider pins have side to side play?

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Jake O

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12 posts

86 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Hi all,

First ever post here and looking for some advice!

I'm considering buying a fairly cheap and cheerful Toyta Celica, 2004 model as it's literally gone up for sale 2 minutes walk from me and I've been considering a Celica for a little while now.

My main question is this: On it's last 2 MOTs, its advisory has been put down as this: "front both sides front brake calipers, slider pins have side to side play in them". I can't for the life of me find any sort of information along those lines online. Lots of info on slider pins being siezed, but nothing like this.

Has anyone come across this before? I'm wondering if it's a case of just replacing the pins (Dirt cheap) or replacing the Calipers (Not so much).


mazdajason

1,113 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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As you said, lots of info about them being seized but I've never heard of them moving side to side. Now, I did have a corolla t sport not a Celica but I know the brakes very well as I had 3 seized / seizing calipers in 4 years of ownership. After buying 2 dud second hand ones I bought refurbished calipers in the end and it was fine after that. If it's just an advisory on the next MOT I'd ask them to show you what they mean or look to have a go at fixing it yourself once / if you buy the car.

Jake O

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12 posts

86 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Hmm thanks for that. It does sound odd. Just out of interest, how much did the refurbished Calipers set you back? Seen a brand new front pair on ebay for £160, but not genuine.

I'll probably go ahead with buying this one, as it's only up at £1450 and it's in really nice condition inside and out. Plus the garage promises at least 10 months MOT and it only has until September at the moment, so when they do it I'll ask to have a look in on it and see if they can shed any light on it.

gareth_r

5,712 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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The slider pins fit into the caliper mounting brackets, and the caliper is bolted to the pins, so if anything had to be replaced it would be the pins and/or the brackets.

Incidentally, according to the Toyota EPC, the Corolla uses the same pins and brackets, so it should be easy to buy the parts from a breaker.

Jake O

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12 posts

86 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Ah thanks for that, that's good to know as my local breaker has a Corolla but no Celica.

cptsideways

13,535 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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There is usually a rubber sleeve between one slider & the caliper that is usually the source of the play.

Jake O

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12 posts

86 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Just been to have a look at it again.

Only 2 real concerns: The bonnet isn't aligned properly. There's a bigger gap when looking at it on the right than the left side. HPI clear though and not been documented as being in a smash. Other concern is a bit of a knocking when going over bumps, seemingly from the front right. It's last MOT was September though and it's only done 600 miles since then, so not sure whether it's worth taking it for one myself before I commit, or just avoiding.

At £1450 (List price), seems alright. A few blemishes on the paintwork, bumper is slightly sticking out where it joins, but nothing noticeable from a distance. Engine seems great at 110k, revs nicely to the rev limiter, gearbox and clutch seem fine, had new Radiator and cam belt and water pump done, so those are my only real concerns.

Anyone think it's best to just avoid, take it for an independent inspection, or for that money just try and get a few hundred quid off?

Also anyone suggest something cheap as an alternative to a Celica? I live in Derby and there just aren't any others for sale nearby. Would considering either another coupe or a nice hatch but can't really find much at a decent price. Doesn't need to be super quick, but a bit of fun around the corners at least.

Edited by Jake O on Wednesday 18th January 16:59


Edited by Jake O on Wednesday 18th January 17:02

mikey P 500

1,236 posts

186 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Sounds ok to me for the low price age. The noise over bumps likely to a drop link very common fail (about £15 or less and easy diy, although the hex key often rounds off so you might have cut old one off.
Brakes I would guess it's the rubber seal that the slider pins runs through is worn, I expect a caliper refubish kit would include this for not alot.
I doubt you would buy any car of similar age miles with out any issues and these don't seam anything major from your description.

Jake O

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12 posts

86 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Turns out it was just the under trays attached with bloody cable ties, so I've just put deposit down on it.

Finally getting rid of the faithful steed (Or shetland pony) that is my Ford Ka after 2 years and nearly 40k miles with no upsets.

mazdajason

1,113 posts

171 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Apologies for the late reply but I think the £160 for reconditioned callipers was around what I paid. I remember it being under £200 but more than £100. I know that's a fair difference but I know I didn't go 'wow, that's cheap' but nor did I go 'ooft £100+ each'.
If you ended up going for the car in the end, how's it going?

Jake O

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12 posts

86 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Apologies for the late reply myself!

I've had the car for about a week and a half now. Engine wise it's perfect. Absolutely lovely. Only issues I've noticed are squeaky brakes, which I'm hoping are related to the slider pin issues. Otherwise, it seems to pull slightly to the left, which is exaggerated over bumps. Not sure whether it needs wheels aligning or some sort of suspension issue, but I'll probably take it to the garage to give it a once over at some point soon.

Nothing really major (Or at least so it seems), but I'd like to keep on top of it before it gets any worse.