which 5k jap coupe

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Pulsatingstar

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249 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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Pierscoe1 said:

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is there a more suitable rwd, smallish (supras too big), powerful coupe for <15k (no bmw's please, just don't like them)? as said, I'd be looking at an S15, so it has the extras of LSD, 250bhp standard, increased body stiffness, lower ride-height, and looks better


If I were looking for a new car with about 15k (ish ), I would be considering

968 Club Sport
M Coupe
NSX
Elise
S2000
S15 (with some of my S14 bits stuck on it)
RX7 (if I didnt already have one and could afford it lol)

All a bit different, but it would be dependant on what I wanted the car to do.

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

262 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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Pulsatingstar said:

If I were looking for a new car with about 15k (ish ), I would be considering......



please don't worry about it being a long reply! the longer the better!! it's difficult to find people with objective and considered opinions about this! It's great to hear what you think, especially as you've driven them both (and lots of comparable others too).

now re that list:

968 Club Sport -- Definate possibility
M Coupe -- could have sworn I said no bmw
NSX -- for that money, surely a wreck!?
Elise -- am seriously considering a VX
S2000 -- felt like a bathtub to sit in
S15 -- Definate possibility
RX7 -- the obvious

would obviously LOVE an FD, but can't afford the fuel bills, and would be worrying myself grey at a vast rate of knots about that engine! (possibly needlessly, I know).

It's really between a....

968CS/Sport, but a bit worried about parts costs, and the fact that ones with <60k are rare as rocking-horse poo

VX220 NA, awesome, but would like something with a bit more room for luggage/passenger space for some continent bashing etc

S15 SpecR, winning at the moment but still not sure...

see my predicament...

thanks again for the replies.. much appreciated.



edited to ad: there's a whiteline article about on the web somewhere (they make all sorts of suspension kit) that says the LSD in the S15 makes a massive difference to how it drives.. is the diff on the S14 open? or is it just a crap one? also, do you know if the S15 is stiffer sprung/tighter damped? presume the SpecR is, but no actual info anywhere I can find..

>> Edited by Pierscoe1 on Wednesday 4th May 21:23

Pulsatingstar

1,715 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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The S14 has Viscous LSD, but it just doesnt work very well. S15 Diff is Helical. Dont know what the suspension is like. I still imagine its pretty soft if standard really.

My own list isnt perfect, heres my thoughts on the stuff (not having driven any of them).

968 Club Sport - (seems a bit underpwowered, but have looked good on track so might be ok, and I do like the look)
M Coupe - (BMW / Vanos. At least there are only M versions so it wont look like all the others)
NSX - (Low ned of market so not able to get a good one)
Elise - (Probably only afford a slow one. Practicality)
S2000 - (Wasnt keen, until seeing one the other night which kept up well lol)

I think it depends what you want it to do.

At the moment I want to carry on with the drift thing so am sticking to the S14. Cheap and parts available easily. If I wasnt going to smack it up Id be considering the above seriously though, including the S15 (Spec R Aero) if I could find a nice one.

Pulsatingstar

1,715 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th May 2005
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But back on topic, jap car 5k.

Id be getting a really nice R32 GTST if insurance was ok

turbo-tastic

973 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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If you are after a £5k jap car, and want turbo power and great looks, there is only one coice, and its here

It was previously mentioned by Carlosfandango, and rightly so.
You'd even get some change out of your £5k to spend on an EBC and you should be well on your way toward 300bhp, and lots of fun.
An MR2 Turbo with the same tuning will always be faster in a straight line, but in the tiwsty stuff, (with more than 1 passenger as well) the GT4 will win.
You know it makes sense.

DustyC

12,820 posts

255 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Pulsatingstar said:
Do you have a source for that?

Never seen S14 weight quoted that low before. Would be a suprise too.


On the net (various places), in Evo, GT4. Lots of places. Probably even says the same in the owners hand book!

MrFlibbles

7,692 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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turbo-tastic said:

An MR2 Turbo with the same tuning will always be faster in a straight line, but in the tiwsty stuff, the GT4 will win.




turbo-tastic

973 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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MrFlibbles said:

turbo-tastic said:

An MR2 Turbo with the same tuning will always be faster in a straight line, but in the wet, the GT4 will win.




Does something there humuor you Mr F??

I think I can hear a challenge coming on?
If it was raining I dont think a Tubby owner would be laughing??

Mr E

21,628 posts

260 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Gazboy said:


In the dry you wouldn't have seen which way my MRT went!

Given that it rains 1 in every 3 days on this sodding island, the odds are stacked in the MRT's favour!


Hmmm. I've chased my mates modified MR2 tubby, and while on the straight bits it inches away, the Four gobbles all of that back on the brakes and can get on the power earlier and safer in the turns.

I suspect the Two is faster ultimately on a track with a good pilot. On real roads with normal drivers I think the Four is at least as quick, if not a bit faster simply due to the confidence boost of it not trying to actively kill you.....

MrFlibbles

7,692 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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My tubby has never tried to kill me...I mustnt be trying hard enough

Just let me have my EBC fitted mate then you can bring it on!

Mr E

21,628 posts

260 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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The couple I've driven had a bite of me.

I am possibly the worlds most hamfisted pilot however....

Mr E

21,628 posts

260 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Gazboy said:


Oh hell this sounds serious - any time, any place Mista! How does Nardo sound!


No fair. You've got an extra half an engine and another fan thing.......

MrFlibbles

7,692 posts

284 months

Friday 6th May 2005
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Fight! Fight! Fight!

wedgepilot

819 posts

284 months

Friday 6th May 2005
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Pulsatingstar said:

My own list isnt perfect, heres my thoughts on the stuff (not having driven any of them).

968 Club Sport - (seems a bit underpwowered, but have looked good on track so might be ok, and I do like the look)

I'm a bit late to this thread, but if you're thinking of pork, go for a late 944 turbo instead of a 968. Very, very nice ones should be no more than £10k, leaving £5k for insurance and tuning Well over 300BHP is cheaply and reliably attainable. And the handling is sublime.

If your budget is £5k, this gets you a very tasty n/a 944, with the same sublime handling. The 16v 'S' has 190BHP and RWD, which is plenty to be getting on with

please don't lynch me for posting this on a jap forum...

Pulsatingstar

1,715 posts

249 months

Friday 6th May 2005
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I read a lot of 968/944 threads with interest. If I chose to do it, what it would come down to for me personally though is that a 944 just doesnt seem special enough. Much like I dont think ill ever want a 911 short of a Turbo or RS type model.

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

262 months

Friday 6th May 2005
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indeed.. spot on with the "special" comment.

also, the 944 is just too dated for my liking.. don't get me wrong, it's a good looking car, but it just doesn't look modern. the 968 is better, although the interior shows it's age particularly.. but the 'CS' cachet swings a hefty mallet!

re the S15 SpecR, I found a review on an australian site.. seems very promising, especially with regards to the comparison with a scoob:

Aussie Site said:
"It goes exactly where it's pointed - turn-in is sharper and more accurate than the WRX - has an impeccably taut, dead flat cornering attitude and great agility and composure when changing direction quickly."


whole article here:
www.mynrma.com.au/200sx_nissan_200sx.asp

turbo-tastic

973 posts

245 months

Friday 6th May 2005
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MrFlibbles said:
Just let me have my EBC fitted mate then you can bring it on!


If I wasn't selling my car, I'd challenge you to a race down some nice gravel b-roads round my way. That would solve it!!