P1 vs. M3... cant decide!

P1 vs. M3... cant decide!

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Slippydiff

14,850 posts

224 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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Speak to Gary Moulson here : - http://www.keithmichaels.co.uk/
Not guaranteed he'll be cheaper than Elephant or Confused, but they've done some good deals on high value German stuff I've insured recently.

Riknos

4,700 posts

205 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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S3_Graham said:
i may well call elephant on this.... as when i did it through confused and actually listed it as an import (they have a yes no) then it jumped to £2.5k!!!

Quite confusing
That is the problem with mainstream companies, databases don't hold the info on imports. Best to try a specialist insurance company, will probs work out cheaper too.

Elephant was £2307.10 for me on a standard STI Type R, and I'm 21, so you shouldnt' be paying more then I would!

Edited by Riknos on Friday 15th February 10:03

S3_Graham

Original Poster:

12,830 posts

200 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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im 22 nearly 23 with 4years NCB so i thought 1423 was a bargain... im tempted to just take out the insurance but... trouble is it just gives them one more excuse to get out paying if i had an incident!

even 1800 isnt too bad on a P1 tbh!

http://dealerservices.autotrader.co.uk/GetDealer.d...

They have a white Sti 5 type R for £6995 totally standard 59k miles....
tempted but its up north'like frown

Edited by S3_Graham on Friday 15th February 13:14

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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Keighley scratchchin

^^sucks air across teeth dodgy plumber style^^

S3_Graham

Original Poster:

12,830 posts

200 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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really?? ive never heard of them... should i stay south of them then?

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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S3_Graham said:
really?? ive never heard of them... should i stay south of them then?
doing my best here to skirt round the naming and shaming rules, but yeah they have a bit of a reputation.

Just do a search on the GTR, EVO and Subaru forums and you'll see what I mean.

S3_Graham

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12,830 posts

200 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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friendly advice taken.......i think they may be a bit far away

any idea where i could look a little closer to home? im in the south east.

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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Not really got any recomendations myself, but FWIW if I were spending £5k+ on a Jap import I'd probably be looking at importing it myself.

A good mate of mine used a company called Nikkyo, they sourced a car to his spec/price and by all accounts it was an easy and hassle free experience.

The main contact there is a guy called Toshi Muira, I've had him price up some cars for me in the past and he's always been very quick and friendly.

www.nikkyo.gr.jp

ETA: Only thing I suppose you need to factor in is the model report situation, not sure what the story is with Type Rs.

Edited by Marf on Friday 15th February 16:08

Smifffy

1,987 posts

267 months

Sunday 17th February 2008
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Having owned a P1 and now have a 22b, (in your situation) I'd go for a P1. It's an astonishing car - plain and simple.

Don't worry about the DCCD, in real life you never use it.

S3_Graham

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12,830 posts

200 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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just the insurance scares me... 1800 quid is big bucks....

would be a huge step to do it... need think long and hard.

cheers for input tho guys.

Smifffy

1,987 posts

267 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Understandably...

You did speak to Gary Molsen at Keith Michaels right?

GravelBen

15,695 posts

231 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Smifffy said:
Don't worry about the DCCD, in real life you never use it.
Now that depends what sort of driving you do (and what sort of roads) doesn't it wink

Smifffy

1,987 posts

267 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Very true smile

But even so - The P1 was very adjustable with the throttle and on *normal* tarmac UK roads you probably won't touch the DCCD smile

The 22b is quite tail happy with it set to the rear, so I tend to drive with it notched forwards a little unless I'm in full hooligan mode. (not sensible on most roads!)

GravelBen

15,695 posts

231 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Smifffy said:
Very true smile

But even so - The P1 was very adjustable with the throttle and on *normal* tarmac UK roads you probably won't touch the DCCD smile

The 22b is quite tail happy with it set to the rear, so I tend to drive with it notched forwards a little unless I'm in full hooligan mode. (not sensible on most roads!)
yes I don't really know what the P1 is like as it was UK-only but have heard its nicely balanced for a 50:50 Sub. The tail happy comment sounds about right for a DCCD car. With the DCCD set to open, once the rears light up they behave pretty much as a RWD car until you regain traction.

I don't have a DCCD Sub (yet) but I do plenty of driving on gravel so would lock it up a bit (wind forwards) to be quicker/safer in those situations, except for (as you say) hooligan mode biggrin. Also gets a fair bit of snow/ice round here in winter which could be a good time to fully lock the diff.

andi505

7 posts

204 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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DONT BUY THE P1 THEY ALL GO BANG!!! OIL PICK UP PIPES BLOCK AND KILL THEM....HONEST I GAVE £17K FOR 1 18MONTHS AGO FSH 1 OWNER 4OK........THE LIST WENT ON 2K LATER BANG..... PHONE CALL TO SUBARU AND 'WELL SIR WE'VE HAD ALOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS.........BUT AS YOUR WARRANTY HAS EXPIRED....BEND OVER!!' BUT ON THE OTHER POINT M SERIES LOVE THOSE VANOS UNITS!! MY M5 WENT AND BMW WANTED £3K JUST FOR THE UNITS THEN THE LABOUR AT LEAST THE M3 ONLY HAS 1!biggrin THEY ALL BREAK!

GravelBen

15,695 posts

231 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Do they all post messages in CAPITALS?

andi505

7 posts

204 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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My mistake i wasnt looking at it lol

GravelBen

15,695 posts

231 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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hehe Fairy muff, wondered if you were internet-shouting for a reason. wink


Do a search for P1 engine failures on the forum, its been discussed plenty of times before.

andi505

7 posts

204 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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no sorry for the shoutsmile

ge0rge

3,053 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Get an evo V or VI - far superior in every way smile