RE: Nissan GT-R goes soft

[fathomfive]

Negative Creep said:

ZesPak said:

fathomfive said:

Frimley111R said:

Has there ever been anything more inappropriate than wood trim in a GT-R?

'Sport' badging on 4x4s?

+1

Don't you mean sport badges on 99% of cars with that moniker?

Of course.

[Trommel]

As has already been said, the first UK cars cost between £52k and £54k (add 6% for post-price rise orders) .

As has already been said, the Yen has fallen considerably against Sterling.

As anyone can see, this makes prices in Japan comparatively expensive compared to a year ago.

Edited by Trommel on Tuesday 24th March 13:10

[ukaskew]

Trommel said:

As has already been said, the first UK cars cost between £52k and £54k (add 6% for post-price rise orders) .

As has already been said, the Yen has fallen considerably against Sterling.

As anyone can see, this makes prices in Japan comparatively expensive compared to a year ago.

Absolutely, as anybody who has recently looked at camera prices will have no doubt noticed. Most cameras/lens have had up to a 60% increase in RRPs since January, all of a sudden a £600 lens is now a grand.

Not sure if it's been widely reported, but we were buying a car at a Nissan main dealer a few weeks back and one of the sales reps was phoning customers to inform them of a £750 price increase on some models.

[Collaudatore]

Trommel said:

As has already been said, the first UK cars cost between £52k and £54k (add 6% for post-price rise orders) .

As has already been said, the Yen has fallen considerably against Sterling.

As anyone can see, this makes prices in Japan comparatively expensive compared to a year ago.

Edited by Trommel on Tuesday 24th March 13:10

So it doesn't cost +£100k?

I get what you're saying, but can't you see past your point of view?

[davidcharles]

i doubt it will even be available in the uk...the R34 Mspec wasn't...

the standard GTR is still a hell of a car for just under £60k....

[Trommel]

mickken said:

So Nissan don't place forward orders on currency?

They will inevitably have some sort of hedge programme to fix the rate for a certain period for the value of what they import but that particular hedge won't last forever. Then they will be buying Yen at a market rate (or whatever the best hedge they could get at the time was) and if it the exchange rate stays similar they will then either be taking a hit or raising prices. Same as every other company importing from Japan.

Collaudatore said:

So it doesn't cost +£100k?

I get what you're saying, but can't you see past your point of view?

It's unlikely ever to be offered in the UK, and exchange rates make it uncompetitive to import privately. What else is there to say - that Nissan are stupid for building cars that they aren't going to sell in the UK, but would be expensive to buy here if they did because of currency fluctuations?

[Neomagic]

Trommel said:

Neomagic said:

Ok so when this was launched originally, we predicated around a 50 - 60k price tag in the UK???

Now its basically 100k???

Good luck Nissan, welcome to 2009 did you guys not notice that no one is spending any money???

fools!

The UK price for the first Premium-spec cars is £53k (there was a 6% rise for cars ordered after December 2008).

You don't have to post the same thing as the people above - try thinking.

Sorry for the inconvenience my post may have caused, but as I didn’t see anything prior to my post making the point I made.

I think it's you that perhaps need to be doing the thinking!

[1000TCR]

As some of you already menntioned, the huge price tag may be caused by the bad exchange rate. That's obvious and therefore not too difficult to understand.
Where I'm struggling is why does that have an effect on the price in GB? Don't they do any currency hedging at Nissan?

[Trommel]

1000TCR said:

Where I'm struggling is why does that have an effect on the price in GB? Don't they do any currency hedging at Nissan?

Inconceivable that they don't, which is no doubt why prices for all cars from Japan haven't yet gone up by 40%.

[dr.pepper]

It's pretty dumb to quote a direct Yen to pound price for a car that hasn't even announced for the UK.

• edit* I take that back, the article didn't say it was the UK OTR price.

Edited by dr.pepper on Tuesday 24th March 14:39

[Trommel]

mickken said:

So why initialy the smart arse remark about Fx being alien to me? If they have hedged/forward brought, why so expensive?

Again - the first UK cars are costing £52k-54k (plus 6% if ordered post-December 2008).

Neither Spec-M nor Spec-V are currently UK models (and neither are likely to be). The Japanese-market prices quoted in the article are therefore entirely irrelevant unless you want to import one yourself (which you won't due to the exchange rate).

Edited by Trommel on Tuesday 24th March 15:15

[Odie]

Aww thought it was gonna be a soft top

[minimanAC]

Odie said:

Aww thought it was gonna be a soft top

The way its going, that will be next!...They'll make the GTR like the 911 with hundreds of variants, 2wd, 4wd, turbo, NA, convertibles, ones with a glass roof the possibilities are endless

[Odie]

minimanAC said:

Odie said:

Aww thought it was gonna be a soft top

The way its going, that will be next!...They'll make the GTR like the 911 with hundreds of variants, 2wd, 4wd, turbo, NA, convertibles, ones with a glass roof the possibilities are endless

I think it would make a good soft top (not one of them stupid hard top electric things tho)

[silly chap]

The article states for a more upmarket clientele, thats code for an older buyer.

This has been planned for some time now and on top of that a potential porsche cayenne rivalling edition SUV is mooted for the future, seriously.

[ZesPak]

silly chap said:

The article states for a more upmarket clientele, thats code for an older buyer.

This has been planned for some time now and on top of that a potential porsche cayenne rivalling edition SUV is mooted for the future, seriously.

You didn't mess around when choosing that nickname did you?

[silly chap]

ZesPak said:

silly chap said:

The article states for a more upmarket clientele, thats code for an older buyer.

This has been planned for some time now and on top of that a potential porsche cayenne rivalling edition SUV is mooted for the future, seriously.

You didn't mess around when choosing that nickname did you?

r

True, but just you wait and see.

It is clearly unlikely to look like the current GTR but it would carry the GTR brand and be marketed as an alternative to Cayenne or Range Rover However that piece of apparently well sourced speculation was reported on by the Japanese motoring press before the current economic crap.

[fluffnik]

Erijaso said:

Whilst I do like the GTR and can't wait to see how cheap they will get, how can nissan justify £95K for a car!!!!

Nissan: GT-R M-spec ¥13,000,000!!!

Customer-san: Hai!

Nissan: Arigato <bows, proffers fabric swatches>

[Collaudatore]

Trommel said:

Collaudatore said:

So it doesn't cost +£100k?

I get what you're saying, but can't you see past your point of view?

It's unlikely ever to be offered in the UK, and exchange rates make it uncompetitive to import privately. What else is there to say - that Nissan are stupid for building cars that they aren't going to sell in the UK, but would be expensive to buy here if they did because of currency fluctuations?

No, of course not. Of course the UK market accounts for only a small %age of Nissan sales, I'm not saying they're stupid for building it or any other car, merely that it IS a lot of our earth pounds for a car that was hyped as having supercar performance for considerably less money.

Article said:

the lightweight Spec-V that costs over 16 million Yen (£125k).

IMHO

[Belfast Boy]

I'd like one in metallic brown with some cream leather seats and some Walnut Burr please and also GT-R written down the doors in cream decals......hmmm Classy!